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Anonymous wrote:Kyle disgusts me. This entire season makes me dislike her so much.

Really? I'm disgusted by Brandi, not Kyle. If anything, I feel bad for Kyle for what she is dealing with with her sister, and then the evil troll Brandi on top of it. I used to like Brandi but I feel like she is having a mental break- throwing wine on Eileen, and now getting so physical with Kyle. Its honestly concerning

I agree and this makes me mad. I don't like Kyle and Brandi's action(s)is making me defend Kyle. I think people who excuse Brandi and Kim's behavior have never dealt with a loved one who is an addict. Kyle is exhausted with the repeated cycle. I truly understood both her embarrassment for Kim and herself. And then the protective mode which kicked in later. Brandi is vile. I think she likes that Kim has become co-dependent on her. It makes Brandi feel wanted.

I can't help but wonder if anyone hating on Kyle has a sister and, in particular, a sister with an alcohol problem. I have experience with both. Kyle's behavior seems like the behavior of a sober sibling who has been dealing with her sister's alcoholism for years. Kyle looked like she was panicking to me. She whispered very softly to Kim in the bathroom and, remember, Kim followed her. Kyle was trying to be protective. Things seemed fine then suddenly Kim is leaving but not before she makes a sarcastic "Thanks, Kyle" jab at Kyle. I see why Kyle was confused and wanted to see why Kim was suddenly pissed at her. I have had my sister that gets nasty when she drinks do that to me. One minute she's nice then suddenly she's nasty as can be. Those of you who are picking on Kyle and siding with Brandy, I would love to know how you would deal with your sibling getting drunk and calling you at 2 am. I have gotten that phone call on more than one occasion. Or, go to a party where your sibling is clearly on something and acting inappropriately. If you think you wouldn't feel embarrassed for your sister and yourself, you are crazy. You also feel protective and desperately want to make sure they'll be okay but you are also pissed that they did this again. What I saw from Kyle was panic--a panic I know well. Brandy was throwing gas on a fire and she needs rehab badly.

Brandy is full of sh** when she says she has Kim's back. She enables Kim and Kim enables her. I have two sisters with drinking problems--they cover for one another and enable each other's drinking. If you surround yourself with other active alcoholics you can convince yourself your not that bad. I would be genuinely surprised if they had not been drunk around their children at times. Not because I think they are horrible mothers but that is what the disease of alcoholism does. It hijacks your brain and you make stupid decisions, lie to yourself, and lie to others.

Brandy clearly has a drinking problem. I think she likes hanging out with Kim because she can feel like--well, at least I'm not that bad. It is Brandy who brought up the 2 am phone call, not Kyle. Brandy who wanted to put a spotlight on Kim's apparent fall from sobriety--not Kyle.

Lisa R. said that she her husband watched his 2 brothers die of alcoholism within six months of each other. I think that is why she spoke up about the fact that there was "addiction going on here and no one wants to talk about it." I appreciate that she is willing to acknowledge the elephant in the room.

As for Eileen telling Brandy that she didn't appreciate her comments, good for Eileen. The only way people like Brandy change is when people stop putting up with their sh**. I know hang up on my drunk dialer of a sister. She is not allowed to get drunk around me or my kids. If we are having a conversation and she gets nasty, I walk away. Our relationship has improved and she is finally getting help. She has even asked me to help her find help. Putting up with bad behavior from adults is no different than letting kids behave badly with no consequence. It rewards the bad behavior. Brandy should stop being defensive and grow up. She still acts like a rebellious, spoiled, adolescent.

Brandi is acting out to make sure she stays on the show. The women this season are less likely to call her out because they've seen what happens with the viewers if you act like anything other than a doormat.

I feel for Kyle in that she has to act like she is more involved with her alcoholic sister than she is. Kim's alcoholism has been around for a long time and Kyle isn't responsible to pick up the pieces. If Kim were my sister, she would have been completely cut off long ago.

I feel very sorry for Brandi and Kim's children.

Anonymous wrote:I don't hate Brandi. I guess if anything I feel sorry for her. She's a mess, she obviously has issues and she has no filter. None. If she was in school she would be labeled ADHD.

I'm with the PP, when I watched the episode with Kim, Brandi and Kyle, it came across to me that Kyle was the initial aggressor. While Brandi may have been in the wrong in trying to stop Kyle, I don't think Kyle showed good judgement either. It was apparent Kim did not want to talk to her and she kept pushing. I don't think Kyle always has Kim's best interests at heart and frequently I suspect she puts on an act for the camera. A good example of this was the most recent episode when she told Mauricio (sp?) that Kim is in the hospital and she needs to go and she made a big deal about how she waited to tell him until he got home, but now she wasn't sure she would make it in time. All I could think, was why did you wait? Like he doesn't have a cell phone? You can't tell me she couldn't have zipped right over to the hospital. Kyle talks a good game, but I don't think her actions ring true.

+1, thank you.

Also, it really bothered me that Kyle never *asked* Kim to speak with her. Kyle's language was aggressive and demanding. She continually told Kim "come talk to me. Talk to me." Etc.

Also, if you're that concerned about your sister, you don't go to a jewelry party. You wait at the hospital for news. I call bullshit that Kyle was there for an hour and had zero news.

I don't hate Brandi. I guess if anything I feel sorry for her. She's a mess, she obviously has issues and she has no filter. None. If she was in school she would be labeled ADHD.

I'm with the PP, when I watched the episode with Kim, Brandi and Kyle, it came across to me that Kyle was the initial aggressor. While Brandi may have been in the wrong in trying to stop Kyle, I don't think Kyle showed good judgement either. It was apparent Kim did not want to talk to her and she kept pushing. I don't think Kyle always has Kim's best interests at heart and frequently I suspect she puts on an act for the camera. A good example of this was the most recent episode when she told Mauricio (sp?) that Kim is in the hospital and she needs to go and she made a big deal about how she waited to tell him until he got home, but now she wasn't sure she would make it in time. All I could think, was why did you wait? Like he doesn't have a cell phone? You can't tell me she couldn't have zipped right over to the hospital. Kyle talks a good game, but I don't think her actions ring true.

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Anonymous wrote:Kyle disgusts me. This entire season makes me dislike her so much.

Really? I'm disgusted by Brandi, not Kyle. If anything, I feel bad for Kyle for what she is dealing with with her sister, and then the evil troll Brandi on top of it. I used to like Brandi but I feel like she is having a mental break- throwing wine on Eileen, and now getting so physical with Kyle. Its honestly concerning

+1. Did you see the scenes for next week? Why the heck would Brandi show up to Kyle's party uninvited? She is unstable. I do feel bad for her because I think she does have a serious alcohol problem.

I know. And what she said to Kyle about her husband. It's so ironic that Brandi is willing to make fun of Kyle because of unsubstantiated rumors about her husband cheating when she cries on every other episode about the very real (and frequent) cheating Eddie did.

She has definite issues. I am so looking forward to Kyle telling her to "get the fuck out of my party".

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In previous seasons, I kind of liked Brandi and her brutal form of "honesty". This season, however, she is just gross and takes it way too far. If anyone treated her the way she treats others, she'd call them out immediately - and harshly. I think she deserves every reprimand she gets, and then some.

As for Kyle following after Kim at the party, I don't blame her a bit. They had just come out of the bathroom and seemed fine, when Kim decided Kyle had done something offensive (still can't figure out what??). Kyle was caught off-guard and went after Kim to get an explanation. Brandi had no business putting herself in between them. I hate how Brandi is all of a sudden painting herself as some kind of savior and protector to Kim. I think she's seizing on that story line to redeem herself to the viewers and it's so incredibly transparent. If anything, she seems to be enabling Kim and her possible break with sobriety. I think Brandi is so incredibly out of line and self-righteous.

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Anonymous wrote:Is anyone watching Brandi on Celebrity Apprentice (I know, I know, I need an intervention from reality TV).

I initially loved Brandi - I even bought and read her first book (yes, I do know how pathetic that sounds) BUT I hated her last season.

However, she is somewhat normal and actually, smarter than I thought, on CA. She sticks up for herself and actually has good ideas. She is, dare I say, likeable on CA.

Anyway, just wanted to see if anyone else thought the same thing.

Totally agree! Without alcohol, she's very likable on celebrity apprentice. Especially now that Kenya is looking like the pot stirrer, Brandi comes off quite normal and (I can't believe I'm about to use this word in the same sentence as Brandi...), respectable.

I felt bad when Eileen confronted her at the jewelry party. I felt some sympathy for Brandi always being reprimanded and scolded for being "bad" and I think it has a self-fulfilling prophesy effect. Yes, she's outrageous and a drunk, but did she really need to be scolded days later for a poorly made joke about Eileen's interior?

I was actually incredibly impressed that Eileen had the chutzpah to be so honest and upfront with Brandi. People really need to start putting her in her place and not taking any more of her shit. She's gotten away with it for so long, that she feels entitled to hurt people whenever it's convenient for her and then blow it off as her just "being herself". I think it's high time she learns how to behave in the real world and that there will be consequences for her bad behavior. She's a grown woman, not a teenager.

Kim was running away from her sister! Why was it so important for Kyle to talk to her at that exact moment? Oh, that's right, because it's all about Kyle.

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Anonymous wrote:Kyle disgusts me. This entire season makes me dislike her so much.

Really? I'm disgusted by Brandi, not Kyle. If anything, I feel bad for Kyle for what she is dealing with with her sister, and then the evil troll Brandi on top of it. I used to like Brandi but I feel like she is having a mental break- throwing wine on Eileen, and now getting so physical with Kyle. Its honestly concerning

Kyle grabbed Brandi first. I watched it after reading about it here and was surprised at all the Brandi hate. I don't blame Brandi for stepping in if what she says is true (that Kyle only cares about her sister when the cameras roll) which I can easily believe.

No, Brandi first gave Kyle a "stay away" blocking strong arm that was totally inappropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:Kyle disgusts me. This entire season makes me dislike her so much.

Really? I'm disgusted by Brandi, not Kyle. If anything, I feel bad for Kyle for what she is dealing with with her sister, and then the evil troll Brandi on top of it. I used to like Brandi but I feel like she is having a mental break- throwing wine on Eileen, and now getting so physical with Kyle. Its honestly concerning

Kyle grabbed Brandi first. I watched it after reading about it here and was surprised at all the Brandi hate. I don't blame Brandi for stepping in if what she says is true (that Kyle only cares about her sister when the cameras roll) which I can easily believe.

No, Brandi first gave Kyle a "stay away" blocking strong arm that was totally inappropriate.

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Anonymous wrote:Kyle disgusts me. This entire season makes me dislike her so much.

Really? I'm disgusted by Brandi, not Kyle. If anything, I feel bad for Kyle for what she is dealing with with her sister, and then the evil troll Brandi on top of it. I used to like Brandi but I feel like she is having a mental break- throwing wine on Eileen, and now getting so physical with Kyle. Its honestly concerning

+1. Did you see the scenes for next week? Why the heck would Brandi show up to Kyle's party uninvited? She is unstable. I do feel bad for her because I think she does have a serious alcohol problem.

I know. And what she said to Kyle about her husband. It's so ironic that Brandi is willing to make fun of Kyle because of unsubstantiated rumors about her husband cheating when she cries on every other episode about the very real (and frequent) cheating Eddie did.

She has definite issues. I am so looking forward to Kyle telling her to "get the fuck out of my party".

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Anonymous wrote:Kyle disgusts me. This entire season makes me dislike her so much.

Really? I'm disgusted by Brandi, not Kyle. If anything, I feel bad for Kyle for what she is dealing with with her sister, and then the evil troll Brandi on top of it. I used to like Brandi but I feel like she is having a mental break- throwing wine on Eileen, and now getting so physical with Kyle. Its honestly concerning

Kyle grabbed Brandi first. I watched it after reading about it here and was surprised at all the Brandi hate. I don't blame Brandi for stepping in if what she says is true (that Kyle only cares about her sister when the cameras roll) which I can easily believe.

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Anonymous wrote:Kyle disgusts me. This entire season makes me dislike her so much.

Really? I'm disgusted by Brandi, not Kyle. If anything, I feel bad for Kyle for what she is dealing with with her sister, and then the evil troll Brandi on top of it. I used to like Brandi but I feel like she is having a mental break- throwing wine on Eileen, and now getting so physical with Kyle. Its honestly concerning

+1. Did you see the scenes for next week? Why the heck would Brandi show up to Kyle's party uninvited? She is unstable. I do feel bad for her because I think she does have a serious alcohol problem.

Anonymous wrote:Kyle disgusts me. This entire season makes me dislike her so much.

Really? I'm disgusted by Brandi, not Kyle. If anything, I feel bad for Kyle for what she is dealing with with her sister, and then the evil troll Brandi on top of it. I used to like Brandi but I feel like she is having a mental break- throwing wine on Eileen, and now getting so physical with Kyle. Its honestly concerning

Anonymous wrote:Kyle disgusts me. This entire season makes me dislike her so much.

I don't know if it is the editing or what, but they've made her and her family look very materialistic.