Anonymous
05/29/2014 15:36
Subject: Re:How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Unless by "new" high school they mean "different from Wilson" and try to reroute Hardy to an existing HS like Coolidge. I can see them saying something like that--depends what their definition of "new" is in this case...
Anonymous
05/29/2014 12:22
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sheep like? Hardly. We made the decision to go private back in 3rd grade when Pope was finally on the way out but DCPS was talking about a part time principal. No regrets here.
That may have been an entirely reasonable decision based on a known set of facts when your student was in 3rd grade. What drives me nuts as a Hardy booster and a Hardy parent are the parents who make decisions today based on some rumor they heard about Pope five years ago.
Recently, many parents were scared off by one of the DME's "options" to remove Hardy as a feeder to Wilson. Based on the facts, that's not an unreasonable fear. I expect many working on Hardy's behalf felt kneecapped by that proposal -- as a result, it probably caused a setback of their efforts by at least a year.
Not really. We are all still there, enrolling as IB for next year sixth grade. We got all the needed reassurances from the DME, members of the Committee (Frumin) and many others (Catania) . Hardy will continue feeding into Wilson.
I'm glad you "know" that now -- but that present belief (you're not 1000% sure, are you?) doesn't help the parents who had to plan for their decision months ago; and it doesn't excuse the incompetent decision to include the idea as part of the DME's "options" in the first place. And who knows what happens if Bowser gets elected. I hope it works out for you (it probably will).
According to a report of a meeting between Smith and ANC 3C this week (which represents Woodley and Cleveland Park and Cathedral Heights) all Smith would say is that she "could see" Hardy continuing to feed to Wilson if all the puzzle pieces fall into place. Seems like that's a promise (together with your DC tax refund) that you can take to the bank!
I heard a different first-hand different report on that meeting, with Smith saying that she was not in position to confirm it at that moment, but their projections suggested that Hardy will feed into Wilson.
Anyway, whatever she said, I can live with the idea that Hardy will feed into a new HS which will be build nearby. Both my sons (4th and 5th grade) will have gone through Hardy and will be at Wilson at that time...(this won't happen before 6-8 years!).
Anonymous
05/29/2014 11:45
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sheep like? Hardly. We made the decision to go private back in 3rd grade when Pope was finally on the way out but DCPS was talking about a part time principal. No regrets here.
That may have been an entirely reasonable decision based on a known set of facts when your student was in 3rd grade. What drives me nuts as a Hardy booster and a Hardy parent are the parents who make decisions today based on some rumor they heard about Pope five years ago.
Recently, many parents were scared off by one of the DME's "options" to remove Hardy as a feeder to Wilson. Based on the facts, that's not an unreasonable fear. I expect many working on Hardy's behalf felt kneecapped by that proposal -- as a result, it probably caused a setback of their efforts by at least a year.
Not really. We are all still there, enrolling as IB for next year sixth grade. We got all the needed reassurances from the DME, members of the Committee (Frumin) and many others (Catania) . Hardy will continue feeding into Wilson.
I'm glad you "know" that now -- but that present belief (you're not 1000% sure, are you?) doesn't help the parents who had to plan for their decision months ago; and it doesn't excuse the incompetent decision to include the idea as part of the DME's "options" in the first place. And who knows what happens if Bowser gets elected. I hope it works out for you (it probably will).
According to a report of a meeting between Smith and ANC 3C this week (which represents Woodley and Cleveland Park and Cathedral Heights) all Smith would say is that she "could see" Hardy continuing to feed to Wilson if all the puzzle pieces fall into place. Seems like that's a promise (together with your DC tax refund) that you can take to the bank!
Anonymous
05/28/2014 11:41
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sheep like? Hardly. We made the decision to go private back in 3rd grade when Pope was finally on the way out but DCPS was talking about a part time principal. No regrets here.
That may have been an entirely reasonable decision based on a known set of facts when your student was in 3rd grade. What drives me nuts as a Hardy booster and a Hardy parent are the parents who make decisions today based on some rumor they heard about Pope five years ago.
Recently, many parents were scared off by one of the DME's "options" to remove Hardy as a feeder to Wilson. Based on the facts, that's not an unreasonable fear. I expect many working on Hardy's behalf felt kneecapped by that proposal -- as a result, it probably caused a setback of their efforts by at least a year.
Not really. We are all still there, enrolling as IB for next year sixth grade. We got all the needed reassurances from the DME, members of the Committee (Frumin) and many others (Catania) . Hardy will continue feeding into Wilson.
Just FYI, Catania has been saying the same thing to all parents who might be re-zoned to a worse school under the DME proposals. You're not special - this is not about Hardy specifically. He just gets it, and I believe him. But Catania has to get elected. If I were you I would not be so certain just based on these assurances. If Bowser is elected no-one really knows what she will do because she herself does not know, despite her recent statements.
While Bowser does not know what she would do, she will be bound by practical constraints, just like Catania. There is no practical way in which Hardy is removed from Wilson. The only path that would remove Hardy requires building a new HS in Ward 2/3. Many of you claim this is a complete non-starter. That may be so. But that means that there is no remotely feasible way to change the HS into which Hardy feeds.
Anonymous
05/28/2014 11:19
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sheep like? Hardly. We made the decision to go private back in 3rd grade when Pope was finally on the way out but DCPS was talking about a part time principal. No regrets here.
That may have been an entirely reasonable decision based on a known set of facts when your student was in 3rd grade. What drives me nuts as a Hardy booster and a Hardy parent are the parents who make decisions today based on some rumor they heard about Pope five years ago.
Recently, many parents were scared off by one of the DME's "options" to remove Hardy as a feeder to Wilson. Based on the facts, that's not an unreasonable fear. I expect many working on Hardy's behalf felt kneecapped by that proposal -- as a result, it probably caused a setback of their efforts by at least a year.
Not really. We are all still there, enrolling as IB for next year sixth grade. We got all the needed reassurances from the DME, members of the Committee (Frumin) and many others (Catania) . Hardy will continue feeding into Wilson.
Just FYI, Catania has been saying the same thing to all parents who might be re-zoned to a worse school under the DME proposals. You're not special - this is not about Hardy specifically. He just gets it, and I believe him. But Catania has to get elected. If I were you I would not be so certain just based on these assurances. If Bowser is elected no-one really knows what she will do because she herself does not know, despite her recent statements.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 17:13
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Two of my kid's friends ended up at Oberlin and Sarah Lawrence.Anonymous wrote:University, not Day School.Anonymous wrote:My Hardy grad, who went to the school when Mr. Pope was principal, is now at Georgetown.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Actually researching and knowing facts about a school apparently are pretty rare for most parents, even educated well off parents. Instead, more often word of mouth, general perceptions tend to be the norm on at least suburban schools in recent studies. I would guess within DC Deal/Wilson would be the suburban equivalent. It would also explain why people make such uniformed judgmental statements in these threads. Schools can accomplish a lot but fighting adult ignorance is out of their mandate
Sociologists Shed Light on Suburban School Choice
The Wauters are not rare. In fact, their uninformed decision was the rule rather than the exception for the 46 middle- and working-class suburban families whose stories are summarized in a chapter of Choosing Homes, Choosing Schools, a book published by the Russell Sage Foundation in March. Lareau, a sociology professor at the University of Pennsylvania, in Philadelphia, edited the book with Kimberly Goyette, an associate professor of sociology at Temple University, also in Philadelphia. http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/inside-school-research/2014/05/parent_choice.html
Parents are judging Hardy based on their experience with Patrick Pope telling them to go to hell when they asked for advanced or at least on grade level classes, then DCPS assigning what was it - 4 different principals in 4 years? The skepticism about the school is well justified.
Everyone hopes it will turn around. But what I have asked for is some evidence that hardy grads are doing well wherever they head to for us, and so far I have not received any information.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 16:17
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Smith can say she gurantees that the sky is blue and it means nothing. She works for a lameduck mayor. The two candidates have repudiated her proposals. I think she was given a no win situtation and has tried to think out of the box, but your demand that she declare whatever are pointless. The reality is we can hope that the committee puts together a range of ideas that may hold some kernals of ideas that will be used by a future mayor.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 15:09
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sheep like? Hardly. We made the decision to go private back in 3rd grade when Pope was finally on the way out but DCPS was talking about a part time principal. No regrets here.
That may have been an entirely reasonable decision based on a known set of facts when your student was in 3rd grade. What drives me nuts as a Hardy booster and a Hardy parent are the parents who make decisions today based on some rumor they heard about Pope five years ago.
Recently, many parents were scared off by one of the DME's "options" to remove Hardy as a feeder to Wilson. Based on the facts, that's not an unreasonable fear. I expect many working on Hardy's behalf felt kneecapped by that proposal -- as a result, it probably caused a setback of their efforts by at least a year.
Not really. We are all still there, enrolling as IB for next year sixth grade. We got all the needed reassurances from the DME, members of the Committee (Frumin) and many others (Catania) . Hardy will continue feeding into Wilson.
Smith needs to make a public statement in writing that she has repudiated her ill-conceived trial balloon to send Hardy to a to-be-determined high school other than Wilson. Verbal "assurances" and Smith's "trustworthiness" won't cut it.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 14:42
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
University, not Day School.Anonymous wrote:My Hardy grad, who went to the school when Mr. Pope was principal, is now at Georgetown.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Actually researching and knowing facts about a school apparently are pretty rare for most parents, even educated well off parents. Instead, more often word of mouth, general perceptions tend to be the norm on at least suburban schools in recent studies. I would guess within DC Deal/Wilson would be the suburban equivalent. It would also explain why people make such uniformed judgmental statements in these threads. Schools can accomplish a lot but fighting adult ignorance is out of their mandate
Sociologists Shed Light on Suburban School Choice
The Wauters are not rare. In fact, their uninformed decision was the rule rather than the exception for the 46 middle- and working-class suburban families whose stories are summarized in a chapter of Choosing Homes, Choosing Schools, a book published by the Russell Sage Foundation in March. Lareau, a sociology professor at the University of Pennsylvania, in Philadelphia, edited the book with Kimberly Goyette, an associate professor of sociology at Temple University, also in Philadelphia. http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/inside-school-research/2014/05/parent_choice.html
Parents are judging Hardy based on their experience with Patrick Pope telling them to go to hell when they asked for advanced or at least on grade level classes, then DCPS assigning what was it - 4 different principals in 4 years? The skepticism about the school is well justified.
Everyone hopes it will turn around. But what I have asked for is some evidence that hardy grads are doing well wherever they head to for us, and so far I have not received any information.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 14:39
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
My Hardy grad, who went to the school when Mr. Pope was principal, is now at Georgetown.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Actually researching and knowing facts about a school apparently are pretty rare for most parents, even educated well off parents. Instead, more often word of mouth, general perceptions tend to be the norm on at least suburban schools in recent studies. I would guess within DC Deal/Wilson would be the suburban equivalent. It would also explain why people make such uniformed judgmental statements in these threads. Schools can accomplish a lot but fighting adult ignorance is out of their mandate
Sociologists Shed Light on Suburban School Choice
The Wauters are not rare. In fact, their uninformed decision was the rule rather than the exception for the 46 middle- and working-class suburban families whose stories are summarized in a chapter of Choosing Homes, Choosing Schools, a book published by the Russell Sage Foundation in March. Lareau, a sociology professor at the University of Pennsylvania, in Philadelphia, edited the book with Kimberly Goyette, an associate professor of sociology at Temple University, also in Philadelphia. http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/inside-school-research/2014/05/parent_choice.html
Parents are judging Hardy based on their experience with Patrick Pope telling them to go to hell when they asked for advanced or at least on grade level classes, then DCPS assigning what was it - 4 different principals in 4 years? The skepticism about the school is well justified.
Everyone hopes it will turn around. But what I have asked for is some evidence that hardy grads are doing well wherever they head to for us, and so far I have not received any information.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 14:21
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sheep like? Hardly. We made the decision to go private back in 3rd grade when Pope was finally on the way out but DCPS was talking about a part time principal. No regrets here.
That may have been an entirely reasonable decision based on a known set of facts when your student was in 3rd grade. What drives me nuts as a Hardy booster and a Hardy parent are the parents who make decisions today based on some rumor they heard about Pope five years ago.
Recently, many parents were scared off by one of the DME's "options" to remove Hardy as a feeder to Wilson. Based on the facts, that's not an unreasonable fear. I expect many working on Hardy's behalf felt kneecapped by that proposal -- as a result, it probably caused a setback of their efforts by at least a year.
Not really. We are all still there, enrolling as IB for next year sixth grade. We got all the needed reassurances from the DME, members of the Committee (Frumin) and many others (Catania) . Hardy will continue feeding into Wilson.
I'm glad you "know" that now -- but that present belief (you're not 1000% sure, are you?) doesn't help the parents who had to plan for their decision months ago; and it doesn't excuse the incompetent decision to include the idea as part of the DME's "options" in the first place. And who knows what happens if Bowser gets elected. I hope it works out for you (it probably will).
I am 1000% sure.
However this does not excuse the incompetency and shabbiness of the DME and her team. I cannot wait for this group of incompetent & irresponsible people to leave the scene. Shame on them for the years to come. And go Catania.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 13:23
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sheep like? Hardly. We made the decision to go private back in 3rd grade when Pope was finally on the way out but DCPS was talking about a part time principal. No regrets here.
That may have been an entirely reasonable decision based on a known set of facts when your student was in 3rd grade. What drives me nuts as a Hardy booster and a Hardy parent are the parents who make decisions today based on some rumor they heard about Pope five years ago.
Recently, many parents were scared off by one of the DME's "options" to remove Hardy as a feeder to Wilson. Based on the facts, that's not an unreasonable fear. I expect many working on Hardy's behalf felt kneecapped by that proposal -- as a result, it probably caused a setback of their efforts by at least a year.
Not really. We are all still there, enrolling as IB for next year sixth grade. We got all the needed reassurances from the DME, members of the Committee (Frumin) and many others (Catania) . Hardy will continue feeding into Wilson.
I'm glad you "know" that now -- but that present belief (you're not 1000% sure, are you?) doesn't help the parents who had to plan for their decision months ago; and it doesn't excuse the incompetent decision to include the idea as part of the DME's "options" in the first place. And who knows what happens if Bowser gets elected. I hope it works out for you (it probably will).
Anonymous
05/27/2014 13:17
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sheep like? Hardly. We made the decision to go private back in 3rd grade when Pope was finally on the way out but DCPS was talking about a part time principal. No regrets here.
That may have been an entirely reasonable decision based on a known set of facts when your student was in 3rd grade. What drives me nuts as a Hardy booster and a Hardy parent are the parents who make decisions today based on some rumor they heard about Pope five years ago.
Recently, many parents were scared off by one of the DME's "options" to remove Hardy as a feeder to Wilson. Based on the facts, that's not an unreasonable fear. I expect many working on Hardy's behalf felt kneecapped by that proposal -- as a result, it probably caused a setback of their efforts by at least a year.
Not really. We are all still there, enrolling as IB for next year sixth grade. We got all the needed reassurances from the DME, members of the Committee (Frumin) and many others (Catania) . Hardy will continue feeding into Wilson.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 13:04
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sheep like? Hardly. We made the decision to go private back in 3rd grade when Pope was finally on the way out but DCPS was talking about a part time principal. No regrets here.
That may have been an entirely reasonable decision based on a known set of facts when your student was in 3rd grade. What drives me nuts as a Hardy booster and a Hardy parent are the parents who make decisions today based on some rumor they heard about Pope five years ago.
Recently, many parents were scared off by one of the DME's "options" to remove Hardy as a feeder to Wilson. Based on the facts, that's not an unreasonable fear. I expect many working on Hardy's behalf felt kneecapped by that proposal -- as a result, it probably caused a setback of their efforts by at least a year.
Anonymous
05/27/2014 10:55
Subject: How has Hardy drawn inbound families?
Anonymous wrote:Sheep like? Hardly. We made the decision to go private back in 3rd grade when Pope was finally on the way out but DCPS was talking about a part time principal. No regrets here.
That may have been an entirely reasonable decision based on a known set of facts when your student was in 3rd grade. What drives me nuts as a Hardy booster and a Hardy parent are the parents who make decisions today based on some rumor they heard about Pope five years ago.