Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:56
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:\Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The proposals provide that John Eaton ES will be forced out of Deal, and be assigned to Hardy, What do Eaton parents think of that??
Eaton and Oyster were always the most vulnerable. They're both closer to Hardy than Deal anyway. Even if there weren't a re-alignment of the boundaries in the political works, it always made sense to anyone who can read a map.
Can't remember if I posted in this thread or another, but reading a map doesn't mean much unless it had an overlay of bus and metro lines. However close Eaton and Oyster may be to Hardy, the commute will be twice or three times as long than the one the kids would make via the red line.
Have no horse in this race, just know that there is basically no easy east-west bus route (bit better for Eaton, but pretty bad for Oyster) for those two neighborhoods.
Working with the very unlikely assumption that all Eaton students begin their trip from Eaton itself (as opposed to an OOB location)
Assuming walking:
shortest Eaton to Hardy = 1.6 miles
shortest Eaton to Deal = 1.8 miles
Assuming driving (Google maps):
shortest Eaton to Hardy = 5 min. driving, 16 min. public transit
shortest Eaton to Deal = 5 min. driving, 17 min. public transit
Assuming Public Transportation (WMATA trip planner):
shortest Eaton to Hardy = $1.60
shortest Eaton to Deal = $1.60
Please show me the Eaton to Hardy route for $1.60 as well as the timetables.
WMATA trip planner:
http://www.wmata.com/rider_tools/tripplanner/tripplanner.cfm
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:51
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:\Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The proposals provide that John Eaton ES will be forced out of Deal, and be assigned to Hardy, What do Eaton parents think of that??
Eaton and Oyster were always the most vulnerable. They're both closer to Hardy than Deal anyway. Even if there weren't a re-alignment of the boundaries in the political works, it always made sense to anyone who can read a map.
Can't remember if I posted in this thread or another, but reading a map doesn't mean much unless it had an overlay of bus and metro lines. However close Eaton and Oyster may be to Hardy, the commute will be twice or three times as long than the one the kids would make via the red line.
Have no horse in this race, just know that there is basically no easy east-west bus route (bit better for Eaton, but pretty bad for Oyster) for those two neighborhoods.
Working with the very unlikely assumption that all Eaton students begin their trip from Eaton itself (as opposed to an OOB location)
Assuming walking:
shortest Eaton to Hardy = 1.6 miles
shortest Eaton to Deal = 1.8 miles
Assuming driving (Google maps):
shortest Eaton to Hardy = 5 min. driving, 16 min. public transit
shortest Eaton to Deal = 5 min. driving, 17 min. public transit
Assuming Public Transportation (WMATA trip planner):
shortest Eaton to Hardy = $1.60
shortest Eaton to Deal = $1.60
Please show me the Eaton to Hardy route for $1.60 as well as the timetables.
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:41
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
0 kids from the past 2 5th grades at Mann went to hardy.
-Mann parent
-Mann parent
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:27
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Instead of Deal, Eaton students are getting a raw deal!
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:25
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really think Eaton families have 1) a right to voice their frustration or disappointment 2) a responsibility to see that if they mobilize to make Hardy better they will likely be glad they didn't send their kids to Deal.
At this point it seem easier to make Hardy better than to fight these plans.
I'm going to fight them. It's my kid who will live through a transitional school that is not as solid as what she could have had, By the time Hardy is better, I'll be a grandparent.
So, in 4 to 5 years, you'll be a grandparent? Then you've got bigger problems than which MS your Eaton child attends…
Frankly, if they take Hardy out of the Wilson feeder pattern and assign it to some TBD high school, it will take a lot, lot longer. I might be a great grandparent by then.
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:23
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really think Eaton families have 1) a right to voice their frustration or disappointment 2) a responsibility to see that if they mobilize to make Hardy better they will likely be glad they didn't send their kids to Deal.
At this point it seem easier to make Hardy better than to fight these plans.
I'm going to fight them. It's my kid who will live through a transitional school that is not as solid as what she could have had, By the time Hardy is better, I'll be a grandparent.
So, in 4 to 5 years, you'll be a grandparent? Then you've got bigger problems than which MS your Eaton child attends…
It will take almost a generation to turn Hardy around, That's about how long it took at Deal and Wilson. Just sayin.'
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:22
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really think Eaton families have 1) a right to voice their frustration or disappointment 2) a responsibility to see that if they mobilize to make Hardy better they will likely be glad they didn't send their kids to Deal.
At this point it seem easier to make Hardy better than to fight these plans.
I'm going to fight them. It's my kid who will live through a transitional school that is not as solid as what she could have had, By the time Hardy is better, I'll be a grandparent.
My sentiments exactly. Hardy will not get better anytime soon. And not enough Eaton parents will go to make a difference.
Just so we're clear, Hardy is supposedly good enough for Mann and Key and Hyde and Stoddert, but doesn't pass the sniff test for Eaton??
No one from key or Mann goes there, and very few from stoddert.
False. Categorically, unequivocally false. Period. End of subject.
That's encouraging! Numbers please? And grades? What's the attrition look like? Are there as many in 8th as there are in 6th?
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:22
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really think Eaton families have 1) a right to voice their frustration or disappointment 2) a responsibility to see that if they mobilize to make Hardy better they will likely be glad they didn't send their kids to Deal.
At this point it seem easier to make Hardy better than to fight these plans.
I'm going to fight them. It's my kid who will live through a transitional school that is not as solid as what she could have had, By the time Hardy is better, I'll be a grandparent.
My sentiments exactly. Hardy will not get better anytime soon. And not enough Eaton parents will go to make a difference.
Just so we're clear, Hardy is supposedly good enough for Mann and Key and Hyde and Stoddert, but doesn't pass the sniff test for Eaton??
It's a less good option than Deal. It's not right to tell parents who have long counted on a certain school that they have to accept a lesser school. And how many Mann families send their kids to Hardy?
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:18
Subject: Re:Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
^^shakespearian spellcheck…
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:16
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really think Eaton families have 1) a right to voice their frustration or disappointment 2) a responsibility to see that if they mobilize to make Hardy better they will likely be glad they didn't send their kids to Deal.
At this point it seem easier to make Hardy better than to fight these plans.
I'm going to fight them. It's my kid who will live through a transitional school that is not as solid as what she could have had, By the time Hardy is better, I'll be a grandparent.
My sentiments exactly. Hardy will not get better anytime soon. And not enough Eaton parents will go to make a difference.
Just so we're clear, Hardy is supposedly good enough for Mann and Key and Hyde and Stoddert, but doesn't pass the sniff test for Eaton??
No one from key or Mann goes there, and very few from stoddert.
False. Categorically, unequivocally false. Period. End of subject.
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:16
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Shoot. Sorry, clearly not a WoTP parent. I had Eaton and Hearst confused!
But I do think Eaton really isn't thrown under the bus. We would love to be at Hardy but since Pride is limiting OOB we don't have a shot.
The Deal / Hardy issue is one thing. The big issue is Wilson. It seems very opaque and contrived when the committee has been able to project that Deal is too full for Eaton, but can't figure out Wilson? They either have the math or they don't, and this seems like a way to get buy-in from Hardy (and potential Hardy) families and then pull the rug out from under them in a year or two when they "figure out" the numbers.
That's where Eaton families (and Hardy families) are thrown under the bus.
BTW: DCPS does not distinguish between IB renters and owners. There's no need to get into a discussion of which students "deserver" which school based on own vs rent.
Owners pay property taxes. A HUGE amount. If thou don't think that DCPS is deciding this whole thing based on which wards butter their bread, then you are naive.
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:12
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really think Eaton families have 1) a right to voice their frustration or disappointment 2) a responsibility to see that if they mobilize to make Hardy better they will likely be glad they didn't send their kids to Deal.
At this point it seem easier to make Hardy better than to fight these plans.
I'm going to fight them. It's my kid who will live through a transitional school that is not as solid as what she could have had, By the time Hardy is better, I'll be a grandparent.
My sentiments exactly. Hardy will not get better anytime soon. And not enough Eaton parents will go to make a difference.
Just so we're clear, Hardy is supposedly good enough for Mann and Key and Hyde and Stoddert, but doesn't pass the sniff test for Eaton??
No one from key or Mann goes there, and very few from stoddert.
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:10
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really think Eaton families have 1) a right to voice their frustration or disappointment 2) a responsibility to see that if they mobilize to make Hardy better they will likely be glad they didn't send their kids to Deal.
At this point it seem easier to make Hardy better than to fight these plans.
I'm going to fight them. It's my kid who will live through a transitional school that is not as solid as what she could have had, By the time Hardy is better, I'll be a grandparent.
So, in 4 to 5 years, you'll be a grandparent? Then you've got bigger problems than which MS your Eaton child attends…
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:06
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really think Eaton families have 1) a right to voice their frustration or disappointment 2) a responsibility to see that if they mobilize to make Hardy better they will likely be glad they didn't send their kids to Deal.
At this point it seem easier to make Hardy better than to fight these plans.
I'm going to fight them. It's my kid who will live through a transitional school that is not as solid as what she could have had, By the time Hardy is better, I'll be a grandparent.
My sentiments exactly. Hardy will not get better anytime soon. And not enough Eaton parents will go to make a difference.
Just so we're clear, Hardy is supposedly good enough for Mann and Key and Hyde and Stoddert, but doesn't pass the sniff test for Eaton??
Anonymous
04/08/2014 13:05
Subject: Eaton Thrown Under the Bus
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let me try to understand this. Eaton is being thrown under bus because Deal is overcrowded and 64 percent of Eaton students are OOB? Cry me a river.
So you are saying that John Eaton is expendable because OOB are somehow less deserving of a Deal education? That's rich.
DC schools were constituted as neighborhood schools. Eaton is closer to Hardy than Deal. Feeding Eaton students to Hardy, regardless of IB or OOB status, does not expend Eaton. Pass the popcorn as the drama is highly entertaining.
I fail to see how your snark about a seemingly reasonable explanation is productive. It's closer to Hardy? Fine. Eaton families will embrace it. But it is still a loss of what was expected when we purchased our home. I'm not expecting sympathy, but I wonder if you would talk this way to my face. Let's keep it classy, even for DCUM.
Really. You bought a home for 2mil+ to send your kid in bounds for Eaton? Don't be absurd. Same goes for Hearst, really. No one bought a home in bounds for Eaton or Heart so they could send their kids there. If you have that kind of dough, you'd be sending them to private.