Anonymous wrote:Amherst is very well know. My daughter goes to UMASA Amherst and even in nail salons, Chinese restaurants or Gardner they mix it up with Amherst and eyes light up when hear Amherst.

Two years ago I saw Harrison Ford dropping off his son who goes there with Flockhart. No big deal. Super wealthy, old money, celebs and the gifted all there

Amherst is not well known outside of the US, lol. Certainly not in Asia.

Amherst is very well know. My daughter goes to UMASA Amherst and even in nail salons, Chinese restaurants or Gardner they mix it up with Amherst and eyes light up when hear Amherst.

Two years ago I saw Harrison Ford dropping off his son who goes there with Flockhart. No big deal. Super wealthy, old money, celebs and the gifted all there

Anonymous wrote:I'm Asian who studied in both UK and the US. Before coming to the west, I have certainly heard of the Ivies. All of the Ivies (no such thing as "little ivies") and they were known as the top schools in the US.

The “little Ivies” (traditionally Amherst, Williams and Wesleyan) are a real thing, whether you heard about them in Asia or not. Please don’t pretend to know more about American education than people who grew up in America with first-hand knowledge of the system.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the following represents Asia well

Tier 1 (Most commonly known): Harvard

Tier2 (Next Level): Stanford, Berkeley, MIT

Tier 3: (Folks with some specific knowledge about US Univs) Yale, Princeton, Caltech (folks who know a bit about Egg/Science oriented folks) + Wharton (folks w knowledge about B Schools)

Tier 4: (Folks who know a bit more about US Univs: Rest of the Ivy League + JHU (esp after COVID)

Tier 5: Chicago (Economics, Physics) + Northwestern (Kellogg)

I’d say this is accurate. I’d add Oxford to tier 1 (I know, not American, but they are seen as the co-#1 spot with Harvard). And maybe combine tier 4 and 5.

I posted this tiered list earlier. And, yes, Oxford, Cambridge and the LSE are very well known in Asia.

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Anonymous wrote:The average well-educated foreigner who doesn't obsessively follow college rankings would not know about Yale or Princeton either. They have heard about the "Ivies" because they know Harvard is one, but don't know the others. Most incorrectly think it's just a label for the top 10 universities in the US.

The US colleges that are known globally by the average well-educated foreigner are Harvard and Stanford. Add MIT for those in engineering. Add UC Berkeley for those in China.

For UK, it's Oxford. A smaller number will know of Cambridge.

I love how ignorant Americans speak with such authority. We, foreigners, are also interested in arts and know which schools have the best programs. Do you know how many Asian kids apply to Juilliard? How many Europeans are trying for the VCU's sculpture program?

The average well-educated foreigner is not interested in fine arts.

Yes we are. Art knowledge is a requirement for anyone who is well-educated. Same as Latin.

I'm Asian who studied in both UK and the US. Before coming to the west, I have certainly heard of the Ivies. All of the Ivies (no such thing as "little ivies") and they were known as the top schools in the US.

Anonymous wrote:As an expat who has been in the US for quite a few years, and as an Oxbridge grad - before I came over, I had heard of all the Ivy Leagues, Michigan, UNC Chapel Hill, UVA, Georgetown, Stanford, Norte Dame and UCLA. That was about it for me. Certainly none of the little ivies were remotely on my radar.

Oxbridge grad here as well, and I never heard of UNC or UVA until long after I had crossed the pond. I knew all the Ivy Leagues, MIT, Stanford, Chicago, Northwestern, Notre Dame, Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, Duke, and Hopkins.

As an expat who has been in the US for quite a few years, and as an Oxbridge grad - before I came over, I had heard of all the Ivy Leagues, Michigan, UNC Chapel Hill, UVA, Georgetown, Stanford, Norte Dame and UCLA. That was about it for me. Certainly none of the little ivies were remotely on my radar.

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Anonymous wrote:The average well-educated foreigner who doesn't obsessively follow college rankings would not know about Yale or Princeton either. They have heard about the "Ivies" because they know Harvard is one, but don't know the others. Most incorrectly think it's just a label for the top 10 universities in the US.

The US colleges that are known globally by the average well-educated foreigner are Harvard and Stanford. Add MIT for those in engineering. Add UC Berkeley for those in China.

For UK, it's Oxford. A smaller number will know of Cambridge.

I love how ignorant Americans speak with such authority. We, foreigners, are also interested in arts and know which schools have the best programs. Do you know how many Asian kids apply to Juilliard? How many Europeans are trying for the VCU's sculpture program?

The average well-educated foreigner is not interested in fine arts.

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Anonymous wrote:Stanford, USC and UCLA are highly regarded in Taiwan

USC? (I'm spitting out my taro bubble tea now in shock).

Also Korea. I agree it's because of the high population of Koreans living in LA.

Anonymous wrote:The average well-educated foreigner who doesn't obsessively follow college rankings would not know about Yale or Princeton either. They have heard about the "Ivies" because they know Harvard is one, but don't know the others. Most incorrectly think it's just a label for the top 10 universities in the US.

The US colleges that are known globally by the average well-educated foreigner are Harvard and Stanford. Add MIT for those in engineering. Add UC Berkeley for those in China.

For UK, it's Oxford. A smaller number will know of Cambridge.

I love how ignorant Americans speak with such authority. We, foreigners, are also interested in arts and know which schools have the best programs. Do you know how many Asian kids apply to Juilliard? How many Europeans are trying for the VCU's sculpture program?

Harvard, Oxford, Yale, Stanford, MIT

Princeton, Cambridge, Columbia, Berkeley, maybe Caltech, maybe Wharton

Cornell, Johns Hopkins, UChicago, Northwestern, Duke, non-Wharton Penn, LSE

UCLA, NYU, USC, Georgetown, UCL

I think that’s it. Grew up between Southeast Asia, Middle East and Europe.

Op, ask US citizens which foreign universities they have heard of. It will be a pathetic short list.

Anonymous wrote:Stanford, USC and UCLA are highly regarded in Taiwan

USC? (I'm spitting out my taro bubble tea now in shock).

The average well-educated foreigner who doesn't obsessively follow college rankings would not know about Yale or Princeton either. They have heard about the "Ivies" because they know Harvard is one, but don't know the others. Most incorrectly think it's just a label for the top 10 universities in the US.

The US colleges that are known globally by the average well-educated foreigner are Harvard and Stanford. Add MIT for those in engineering. Add UC Berkeley for those in China.

For UK, it's Oxford. A smaller number will know of Cambridge.