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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:More people have been murdered by atheistic and anti-Christian regimes than by the Church,

Wow -- what a great (even if undocumented) claim! "Not #1 in murder." Congrats to the Church, whose savior is a humble carpenter who preached love and compassion.

Stalin, Mao....

Here's to the Catholic church -- not as evil as the despots Stalin and Mao

Not that PP, but is twisting her point the only retort you have? Why don't you try to defend your fellow atheists, Stalin and Zmao? Or can't you?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people have been murdered by atheistic and anti-Christian regimes than by the Church,

Wow -- what a great (even if undocumented) claim! "Not #1 in murder." Congrats to the Church, whose savior is a humble carpenter who preached love and compassion.

Stalin, Mao....

Here's to the Catholic church -- not as evil as the despots Stalin and Mao

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:More people have been murdered by atheistic and anti-Christian regimes than by the Church,

Wow -- what a great (even if undocumented) claim! "Not #1 in murder." Congrats to the Church, whose savior is a humble carpenter who preached love and compassion.

Stalin, Mao....

Anonymous wrote:Jesus told the Apostles to "do this in memory of me" at the Last Supper. You are reenacting a meal, the Last Supper. You are calling the attendees to your table to partake of food and drink (now the body and blood). Except you tell some of your guests, "Except if you are not a Catholic, you aren't invited to partake".

Sorry but to me it's rude and others have expressed the same feeling.

Jesus also said "This IS my body. This IS my blood."

And so the Catholic blief in transubstantiation began, from the time of Christ and the first Pope, Saint Peter.

The protestant disagreement about the symbolism and the tradition of the Eucharist occured many centuries later, around the 16th century, so approximately 1500 years after the life of Christ.

One may easily argue that it is very rude to demean a faith tradition and main tenant that differs from your own, just to prove a point or pick a fight.

Anonymous wrote:More people have been murdered by atheistic and anti-Christian regimes than by the Church,

Wow -- what a great (even if undocumented) claim! "Not #1 in murder." Congrats to the Church, whose savior is a humble carpenter who preached love and compassion.

More people have been murdered by atheistic and anti-Christian regimes than by the Church,

Anonymous wrote:Catholicism is not a collection of beliefs about how the world is any more than Judaism, Hinduism or other branches of Christianity. It is a cultural system of beliefs and practices that like other religions seeks to give meaning to life. You can agree or disagree with how it does that, but it is in this regard no different from other religions and no more or less a subject for criticism than any other religions.

Yes, Catholicism is like many other religions in many ways. It is also worse or just as bad as other religions in ways that they are very bad. This does nothing to recommend Catholicism -- or other religions.

Catholicism is not a collection of beliefs about how the world is any more than Judaism, Hinduism or other branches of Christianity. It is a cultural system of beliefs and practices that like other religions seeks to give meaning to life. You can agree or disagree with how it does that, but it is in this regard no different from other religions and no more or less a subject for criticism than any other religions.

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Anonymous wrote:Catholicism is a collection of beliefs about how the world is and how people should act in it. As such, it is open to criticism. Just like every other ism. And bashing is okay too if there is something particularly bad about it. Like the fact that it is based on fairy tales, pushes shame on people pointlessly, has a history of murdering non-believers and abusing believers, scams people out of billions, benefits from corrupt tax protections, treats women and gays as second class citizens, etc. The real question is, why do Catholics deserve praise?

Please go away.

attacking the poster bc you're not smart enough to attack the points, which, btw, are valid

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Anonymous wrote:Episcopalianism is a credal religion--that is, everything you need to believe to be an Episcopalian is contained in the creed, in this case the Nicene Creed. This includes the following:

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures

Yes, and Episcopalians can have a mythical or metaphorical understanding of those words and be in good standing in the church. Some people believe those words as fact, others don't believe them in any way and don't say the creed when it's read aloud. Some don't even stand with others in the congregation. But they are still welcome to pledge and be active members of the church. CLergy don't even urge people to mouth the words of the creed. If you don't believe it or feel uncomfortable about it, you don't have to say it.

You are confusing religious theology/doctrine with individual belief. All churches, and even the majority of religions I would venture to say, welcome seekers amd those who don't accept official theology 100%. You will likely find yourself in extended conversations with your priest/rabbi/minister/imam/pastor/dojo where he or she tries to convince you of the "correct" path. It has nothing to do with trying to take your money, as you insinuate. Heck, even Mother Theresa had doubts. Nothing unusual about this, unless you're in ISIS-controlled Iraq or something.

I was waiting for someone to tell me the above is just my opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:Episcopalianism is a credal religion--that is, everything you need to believe to be an Episcopalian is contained in the creed, in this case the Nicene Creed. This includes the following:

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures

Yes, and Episcopalians can have a mythical or metaphorical understanding of those words and be in good standing in the church. Some people believe those words as fact, others don't believe them in any way and don't say the creed when it's read aloud. Some don't even stand with others in the congregation. But they are still welcome to pledge and be active members of the church. CLergy don't even urge people to mouth the words of the creed. If you don't believe it or feel uncomfortable about it, you don't have to say it.

You see, the resurrection is THE central event of Christisn history. Without the resurrection, there is no salvation. If you do not believe in the resurrection,you do not believe in salvation. If you deny the central event of Christianity, how can you be Christian? Christ was not jus som philosopher who told us to be nice to one another. I can do that without Jesus. What I cannot do is be saved.

And the Eastern Orthodox churches as well. What differentiates Episcopalians then from RCs other problems than they see the Queen of England as the temporary head of the Church.

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Anonymous wrote:Episcopalianism is a credal religion--that is, everything you need to believe to be an Episcopalian is contained in the creed, in this case the Nicene Creed. This includes the following:

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures

Sounds very similar to the Catholic Apostle's Creed.

They started out Catholic and just changed a few things, including saying the Mass in English. They still sometimes sing hymns and other church music in the original Latin

Anonymous wrote:Episcopalianism is a credal religion--that is, everything you need to believe to be an Episcopalian is contained in the creed, in this case the Nicene Creed. This includes the following:

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures

Yes, and Episcopalians can have a mythical or metaphorical understanding of those words and be in good standing in the church. Some people believe those words as fact, others don't believe them in any way and don't say the creed when it's read aloud. Some don't even stand with others in the congregation. But they are still welcome to pledge and be active members of the church. CLergy don't even urge people to mouth the words of the creed. If you don't believe it or feel uncomfortable about it, you don't have to say it.