Anonymous
09/26/2012 17:02
Subject: Re:2.0
Anonymous wrote:Some parents don't have the time, energy, and resources to supplement privately and frankly, since kids spend 6 hours of day at school, private supplementation shouldn't be necessary. But supplementation at this stage in the game is necessary because MCPS is failing our kids.
+1.
This also doesn't deal with side effects of DC getting bored from being drilled on material he/she knows cold.
This also increases the achievement gap, as it's going to be the high-SES parents who have resources to deploy against the problem.
Anonymous
09/26/2012 16:55
Subject: Re:2.0
Anonymous wrote:I am much like the OP. I have a 1st grader who has been under this curriculum since kindergarten and it all seems fine to me. He seems to be adept at math and is doing the more challenging of the worksheets that come home -- in fact, doing things I don't remember doing until later grades. He likes school and he comes home with lots of reports of interesting work. What is all this talk of disaster and betrayal and corrupt politicians? Some of these posters really need to relax.
If your kid loves math and knows more than the teacher, then bring them home and give them your own worksheets from 3:30-8:00 and chill out.
Most parents I talk with don't feel like you PP. Some of us older parents know what came before 2.0, even what came before Everyday Math, so we have seen the decline in the curriculum over a wider period of time than the two years your child has vested in the system. You may not realize how much the current system sucks because you and your child have nothing to compare it to.
Good luck. See where your child is at graduation. I am using Singapore Math with my child at home so my child will be prepared for the real world. Some parents don't have the time, energy, and resources to supplement privately and frankly, since kids spend 6 hours of day at school, private supplementation shouldn't be necessary. But supplementation at this stage in the game is necessary because MCPS is failing our kids.
Anonymous
09/26/2012 16:24
Subject: Re:2.0
I am much like the OP. I have a 1st grader who has been under this curriculum since kindergarten and it all seems fine to me. He seems to be adept at math and is doing the more challenging of the worksheets that come home -- in fact, doing things I don't remember doing until later grades. He likes school and he comes home with lots of reports of interesting work. What is all this talk of disaster and betrayal and corrupt politicians? Some of these posters really need to relax.
If your kid loves math and knows more than the teacher, then bring them home and give them your own worksheets from 3:30-8:00 and chill out.
If your kid loves math and knows more than the teacher, then bring them home and give them your own worksheets from 3:30-8:00 and chill out.
Anonymous
09/26/2012 16:08
Subject: Re:2.0
These MCPS "educational" bureaucrats are playing around with $2.2 billion/year of our monies.
Anonymous
09/26/2012 15:02
Subject: 2.0
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what we parents can do to get rid of 2.0?
My husband and I are contacting our representatives in Annapolis. We are also going to throw our votes to anyone running for office who does not support 2.0 no matter what their position is on any other issue. I'm not sure if 2.0 is getting funding from Annapolis but if so it should be eliminated.
Look at who the Maryland governor has appointed to serve on the State Board of Education. Almost none have any background or formal training in education. Total crap. This decision to go with a system like 2.0 ultimately rests with the Governor, the State Board of Education, Starr, and the MCPS Board of Education. You want change, they all have to go.
Life long Democrat here. I feel totally railroaded and disenfranchised over this issue. Will through my money, time, effort, and vote to anyone willing to challenge 2.0. As I see it, that is our only option.
Anonymous
09/26/2012 14:57
Subject: Re:2.0
While I am an ardent opponent of eliminating the math pathways I do not oppose the County attempting to pilot a new curriculum--if done in a thoughtful, prudent and ethical manner ensuring no harm or jeopardy to student academic and intellectual development and progress. MCPS is negligent on all the above counts.
MCPS assumes curriculum 2.0 is better than the old curriculum. Is this true? Where is the preliminary or established data to prove this assertion? Are both curriculae equal alternatives? Is there any uncertainty between these two options (concept of equipose)?
If one assumes curriculum 2.0 is the "better" curriculum? What do you do for students who have already mastered it at a particular grade level? Is the assertion we have found a curriculum for which no student at a particular grade level can possibly master (e.g., K, 1, 2, ...)? If so, how do we know and measure this?
So far, MCPS has been mum or evasive at best, preferring not to directly address questions from parents and students in favor of hiding behind talking points from the "leadership" and the numbing Power Point smoke screen.
MCPS assumes curriculum 2.0 is better than the old curriculum. Is this true? Where is the preliminary or established data to prove this assertion? Are both curriculae equal alternatives? Is there any uncertainty between these two options (concept of equipose)?
If one assumes curriculum 2.0 is the "better" curriculum? What do you do for students who have already mastered it at a particular grade level? Is the assertion we have found a curriculum for which no student at a particular grade level can possibly master (e.g., K, 1, 2, ...)? If so, how do we know and measure this?
So far, MCPS has been mum or evasive at best, preferring not to directly address questions from parents and students in favor of hiding behind talking points from the "leadership" and the numbing Power Point smoke screen.
Anonymous
09/26/2012 14:35
Subject: 2.0
Does anyone know what we parents can do to get rid of 2.0?
Anonymous
09/26/2012 14:27
Subject: Re:2.0
Anonymous wrote:http://www.examiner.com/article/academically-gifted-students-need-an-express-lane-with-an-acceleration-policy
Corrected link
Thanks!! I got to the main links for his articles:
http://www.examiner.com/gifted-education-in-washington-dc/kumar-singam
http://www.examiner.com/school-rankings-in-washington-dc/kumar-singam
The second link had a surprising graph of the MCPS SAT data.
Anonymous
09/26/2012 12:03
Subject: Re:2.0
Anonymous
09/26/2012 09:34
Subject: Re:2.0
THe link does not contain the article but thanks anyway. That being said, parents should understand their children are indeed being used as guinea pigs without parental or student consent and without the option of acceleration in the old system. Curiculum 2.0 has not been validated as a worthy educational instrument in any independent group of elementary students. Thus, we have no data whether this new instructional format is predictable, valid and reliable. Montgomery County children are indeed both test and validation cohort for this experiment. No other school County will purchase this curriculum unless it has undergone validation in an independent cohort of children in a properly controlled fashion. From where I sit, completion of appropriate validation is at least a decade away. I would not advise any other County school system to chuck their system, wholesale on a dime (like MCPS), until this is done. Piloting the new curriculum is the best one can do today.
Anonymous
09/26/2012 08:57
Subject: Re:2.0
Anonymous wrote:Curriculum 2.0 is being developed, written, piloted, and validated in one fell swoop on the developing minds of our elementary school children in Montgomery County (while the Board and MCPS have simultaneosly removed the options of subject acceleration and enrichment for our capable childern).
How is this possible? What educational experts designed this experiment?
How can one scientifically and rigorously develop, pilot and validate a new curriculum on the SAME test student population? This approach would not pass sa cientific review.
This type of design would not meet the basic standards or merit for publication in any educational journal.
If I were the Superintendent of another school district, I too, would not be convinced by any data you produce in order to purchase this curriculum for my County. How can you simultaneously develop, write, pilot and validate a new curriculum in the same student test poulation? This is a fallacious approach and design. No wonder there are no takers out there!
Social justice?
Disaster.
Give our children the opportunity to advance and accelerate if they have already mastered this curriculum.
This dude synthesized the point well: http://www.examiner.com/article/academically-gifted-students-need-an-express-lane-with-an-acceleration-policy.
Is he a MCPS parent?
Anonymous
09/26/2012 07:02
Subject: Re:2.0
Curriculum 2.0 is being developed, written, piloted, and validated in one fell swoop on the developing minds of our elementary school children in Montgomery County (while the Board and MCPS have simultaneosly removed the options of subject acceleration and enrichment for our capable childern).
How is this possible? What educational experts designed this experiment?
How can one scientifically and rigorously develop, pilot and validate a new curriculum on the SAME test student population? This approach would not pass sa cientific review.
This type of design would not meet the basic standards or merit for publication in any educational journal.
If I were the Superintendent of another school district, I too, would not be convinced by any data you produce in order to purchase this curriculum for my County. How can you simultaneously develop, write, pilot and validate a new curriculum in the same student test poulation? This is a fallacious approach and design. No wonder there are no takers out there!
Social justice?
Disaster.
Give our children the opportunity to advance and accelerate if they have already mastered this curriculum.
How is this possible? What educational experts designed this experiment?
How can one scientifically and rigorously develop, pilot and validate a new curriculum on the SAME test student population? This approach would not pass sa cientific review.
This type of design would not meet the basic standards or merit for publication in any educational journal.
If I were the Superintendent of another school district, I too, would not be convinced by any data you produce in order to purchase this curriculum for my County. How can you simultaneously develop, write, pilot and validate a new curriculum in the same student test poulation? This is a fallacious approach and design. No wonder there are no takers out there!
Social justice?
Disaster.
Give our children the opportunity to advance and accelerate if they have already mastered this curriculum.
Anonymous
09/25/2012 23:32
Subject: Re:2.0
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NONE of the people on the current Montgomery County School Board are getting my future votes. Governor O'Malley (for pushing this crap on our state) will also not be getting my vote. Seriously, GOP you have a golden opportunity to speak out and Montgomery County will be in your pocket. SO MANY PARENTS ARE FED UP WITH 2.0 and the current administrations in the state and county want to spread BS propaganda instead of ending the experiment.
Where is it written that the MCPS board have staggered terms?
Staggered terms are one of the ways insider boards entrench themselves. I would like to see this changed.
+10000 - If the current board members support this 2.0 crap, they will not get my vote. I won't care who the Apple Ballot endorses. Total lunacy to introduce a curriculum BEFORE it is fully written and tested. Any elected official who supports 2.0 should lose their office. Period.
Anonymous
09/25/2012 22:38
Subject: Re:2.0
Huh!?!? I wish this wasn't anonymous because I'm sure you wouldn't post ridiculous stuff like this. Montgomery county has not even been affected by the recession. This is one of the best places to be in the country. Let me repeat, challenging and stimulating has nothing to do with preparing kids for college or the work force. Go to Kumon if you want to see how many grades above you work on wthout deserving it but that will not fly in our school system.
That is all.
Huh!?!? Let me repeat, preparation for college or the work force does not require a challenging and stimulating educational menu from our public school systems -- not MCPS.
Says it all.
Anonymous
09/25/2012 22:32
Subject: Re:2.0
Anonymous wrote:NONE of the people on the current Montgomery County School Board are getting my future votes. Governor O'Malley (for pushing this crap on our state) will also not be getting my vote. Seriously, GOP you have a golden opportunity to speak out and Montgomery County will be in your pocket. SO MANY PARENTS ARE FED UP WITH 2.0 and the current administrations in the state and county want to spread BS propaganda instead of ending the experiment.
Where is it written that the MCPS board have staggered terms?
Staggered terms are one of the ways insider boards entrench themselves. I would like to see this changed.