Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 22:34     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people who get naked in public are disgraceful. I don't care what everyone else is doing- there is no reason to walk around a locker room naked. This is what group think produces... "now kids, your body parts are private- keep them covered except when everyone else is not". I'd never take my kids to a pool where women and men are walking around naked. Going to the pool is a family event- not a swingers retreat.

Now you can save all that "don't be ashamed of your body...you are so uptight...puritan...Americans are so blah blah blah" for your naked sister circle. I don't want to hear it. You aren't changing my mind so save it for your fellow naked wanderers.


I'm not changing in a stall with pee on the floor. Yikes! It's naked or nothing. We all have bodies, it is what it is.


I know.... Possible pee on the floor when you are wearing socks and/or flip flops- yuck. Sitting your belongings and behind on a bench where someones naked ass and vaginal juices sat- no big deal.



Oh thank you so much for this laugh. But, you must realize, public and private pools are nothing but giant lukewarm soups of water, chemicals, urine, vaginal juices, rinsed off poorly wiped anuses, skid-marked children's swimsuits, and lots of sunscreen. Oh, and don't forget snot, saliva and lots of it, used bandaids, and hairballs.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 22:26     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

Anonymous wrote:My husband just experienced a similar issue except reverse genders. At our neighborhood pool, you HAVE to walk through either the women's locker room or the men's locker room to get to the pool. And to get to the pool from the locker room you have to practically walk through the open showers. He has taken our 5 year old daughter to the pool without me a few times and was really disturbed that he had to walk her through the men's shower with a bunch of naked men to get to the pool. She could have gone through the women's locker room by herself I suppose but it is quite a maze and the doors pretty heavy for a little one to open by themselves. When my DH complained to the pool the guy was sympathetic but said there wasn't really anything they could do. They wouldn't even allow them to walk through the employee entrance to the pool. I don't consider ourselves to be prudes or anything but it would be nice if my husband could take our daughter to the pool without walking her through a room of penises!


Good for you and your husband for complaining. Perhaps the neighborhood pool could construct a third entrance with lighter doors, sort of a tunnel if you will, alongside the existing locker rooms/entrances, that unaccompanied children could pass through. With cameras perhaps, to make sure nothing weird happened in there, with random adults or whatever. Also, you mentioned the employee entrance, and that the staff would not let your husband use it. Perhaps in lieu of this, they could create a special pass to be worn around the neck, allowing different-gendered parent/child pairs to pass through as needed.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 22:20     Subject: Re:Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

Anonymous wrote:This is going to be my last post on this subject.

I debated whether to even bother with this one or not.

A little while ago I asked my daughters if they think that their brother is too old to be going in the women's locker room with us anymore. They said that they don't think that it's a problem yet, but that they figure that this should be the last year that I take him in with us. They said that they know that he does not ever stare at their body parts, but that if he starts to do that, that it will be time to start sending him into the men's locker room instead. But in general, they think that some of you are making a big deal out of nothing.

As for the little girl from my son's class, she was 7 at the time, not 17, and she showed no signs of embarrassment that I could tell, and the same goes for her mother. If they didn't care, then I don't really care what a bunch of strangers on the internet think.

I will probably continue to take my son in with us for the next year, unless we receive any complaints. If we do receive complaints then I'll figure something else out.

One last thought to leave you with. How would any of you parents feel if you let strangers on the internet to talk you into sending your son into the men's locker room alone, and he wound up being molested or harmed in some other way? I know that the odds are everything would be OK if he went in alone, fortunately.

But There are no guarantees.

I would much rather some women feel slightly awkward for a few minutes than have something happen to my son.

Thank you to those of you who have made suggestions to me without trying to insult me!


Asking your daughters makes no sense. They have been raised by you and therefore likely share your unhealthy and warped ideas. They have no idea what normal is. it isn't about strangers on the internet talking you into anything. It is that you as a parent should have enough of a grip on reality that you aren't driven by paranoia, that you understanding growth and development and what is developmentally appropriate, that you teach and give your child skills to be independent in an age appropriate way, and that you put safe guards in place to allow your child to safely use a same sex change room in an age appropriate way.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 22:19     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

I agree. Lady, you are nuts.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 22:15     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

My 8 yr old (almost 9) would be absolutely mortified if boys in her class saw her naked. She is a rising fourth grader and this is far beyond the age where kids should be running around naked together or seeing each other naked.

Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 22:06     Subject: Re:Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: OP here. You've got the wrong person. I stopped posting a long time ago.


Sorry. I realized it after I posted but since there is no edit button...


No worries. I continue to read,just not post. It's been a very interesting thread.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 21:56     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

Lady, you are NUTS.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 21:55     Subject: Re:Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

Anonymous wrote: OP here. You've got the wrong person. I stopped posting a long time ago.


Sorry. I realized it after I posted but since there is no edit button...
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 21:52     Subject: Re:Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

This is going to be my last post on this subject.

I debated whether to even bother with this one or not.

A little while ago I asked my daughters if they think that their brother is too old to be going in the women's locker room with us anymore. They said that they don't think that it's a problem yet, but that they figure that this should be the last year that I take him in with us. They said that they know that he does not ever stare at their body parts, but that if he starts to do that, that it will be time to start sending him into the men's locker room instead. But in general, they think that some of you are making a big deal out of nothing.

As for the little girl from my son's class, she was 7 at the time, not 17, and she showed no signs of embarrassment that I could tell, and the same goes for her mother. If they didn't care, then I don't really care what a bunch of strangers on the internet think.

I will probably continue to take my son in with us for the next year, unless we receive any complaints. If we do receive complaints then I'll figure something else out.

One last thought to leave you with. How would any of you parents feel if you let strangers on the internet to talk you into sending your son into the men's locker room alone, and he wound up being molested or harmed in some other way? I know that the odds are everything would be OK if he went in alone, fortunately.

But There are no guarantees.

I would much rather some women feel slightly awkward for a few minutes than have something happen to my son.

Thank you to those of you who have made suggestions to me without trying to insult me!
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 21:07     Subject: Re:Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: I hope you are a troll otherwise you are creating some big therapy bills for your kids. You should get some professional help in understanding how kids grow and develop. Having your son and girls from his class standing around talking in the nude is not healthy. your son is likely to actually be at higher risk to be a victim or a perpetrator because he has such skewed ideas about nudity, being naked in public, looking at other people naked, being naked with classmates, naked with his sisters. Your paranoia in trying to avoid one thing has led to bigger problems. A fifteen yr old showering with an eight yr old of the opposite sex is wrong. I can only imagine the response on here if the sexes were reversed and your fifteen yr old son was showering with your eight yr old daughter. You aren't trying to a good parent. Your tunnel vision on molestation has clouded your judgment.


I couldn't agree more. OP, I'm not sure why you keep defending yourself. Your actions and outlook are not being accepted by anyone. I sincerely hope you are a troll and this isn't happening. I have 8 YO and a 6 YO boys. The 6 YO is MUCH too old to be in a women's changing room. The 8 YO would be absolutely mortified- as well he should be. If your son is not embarrassed by these things at this age you should be considering counseling for all involved.


OP here. You've got the wrong person. I stopped posting a long time ago.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 20:47     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

My 7 yo DD would be absolutely horrified to have a boy older than her in the locker room. As would I, frankly. This is really not ok. Maybe the people at your pool are too polite or embarrassed to say anything, but I would certainly have words with you about it.
Can you really not think your way out of the problem? As I see it, you can 1) chill the heck out and not give your child a complex 2) you can stand at one end and have your 15 year old stand at the exit, and tell your son to walk through the men's locker room quickly 3) present the problem to the pool staff and get their solution 4) ask if your son can shower in his suit at the outdoor shower, assuming your pool has one.
He is not a baby anymore. Deal with it.
trollol
Post 07/24/2012 20:45     Subject: Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think people who get naked in public are disgraceful. I don't care what everyone else is doing- there is no reason to walk around a locker room naked. This is what group think produces... "now kids, your body parts are private- keep them covered except when everyone else is not". I'd never take my kids to a pool where women and men are walking around naked. Going to the pool is a family event- not a swingers retreat.

Now you can save all that "don't be ashamed of your body...you are so uptight...puritan...Americans are so blah blah blah" for your naked sister circle. I don't want to hear it. You aren't changing my mind so save it for your fellow naked wanderers.


I'm not changing in a stall with pee on the floor. Yikes! It's naked or nothing. We all have bodies, it is what it is.


I know.... Possible pee on the floor when you are wearing socks and/or flip flops- yuck. Sitting your belongings and behind on a bench where someones naked ass and vaginal juices sat- no big deal.



buh? Why are there vaginal juices on the bench?
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 19:41     Subject: Re:Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

Anonymous wrote: I hope you are a troll otherwise you are creating some big therapy bills for your kids. You should get some professional help in understanding how kids grow and develop. Having your son and girls from his class standing around talking in the nude is not healthy. your son is likely to actually be at higher risk to be a victim or a perpetrator because he has such skewed ideas about nudity, being naked in public, looking at other people naked, being naked with classmates, naked with his sisters. Your paranoia in trying to avoid one thing has led to bigger problems. A fifteen yr old showering with an eight yr old of the opposite sex is wrong. I can only imagine the response on here if the sexes were reversed and your fifteen yr old son was showering with your eight yr old daughter. You aren't trying to a good parent. Your tunnel vision on molestation has clouded your judgment.


I couldn't agree more. OP, I'm not sure why you keep defending yourself. Your actions and outlook are not being accepted by anyone. I sincerely hope you are a troll and this isn't happening. I have 8 YO and a 6 YO boys. The 6 YO is MUCH too old to be in a women's changing room. The 8 YO would be absolutely mortified- as well he should be. If your son is not embarrassed by these things at this age you should be considering counseling for all involved.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 19:30     Subject: Re:Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Russian immigrant here. I haven't read the whole thread, but I just wanted to say that I would feel uncomfortable if a 5 y.o. stared at me in the changing room. I understand the problem though. Too bad there is no family changing room.


Why is this relevant?


See the 1st post by OP. She doesn't know if this makes Russian and Asian immigrants uncomfortable. No biggies.


I hope you are a troll otherwise you are creating some big therapy bills for your kids. You should get some professional help in understanding how kids grow and develop. Having your son and girls from his class standing around talking in the nude is not healthy. your son is likely to actually be at higher risk to be a victim or a perpetrator because he has such skewed ideas about nudity, being naked in public, looking at other people naked, being naked with classmates, naked with his sisters. Your paranoia in trying to avoid one thing has led to bigger problems. A fifteen yr old showering with an eight yr old of the opposite sex is wrong. I can only imagine the response on here if the sexes were reversed and your fifteen yr old son was showering with your eight yr old daughter. You aren't trying to a good parent. Your tunnel vision on molestation has clouded your judgment.


Quoted wrong post...directed at lady who keeps posting about her son / daughters.
Anonymous
Post 07/24/2012 19:29     Subject: Re:Yet another post about 5-6 year old boys in the women's changing/bathroom at the pool.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Russian immigrant here. I haven't read the whole thread, but I just wanted to say that I would feel uncomfortable if a 5 y.o. stared at me in the changing room. I understand the problem though. Too bad there is no family changing room.


Why is this relevant?


See the 1st post by OP. She doesn't know if this makes Russian and Asian immigrants uncomfortable. No biggies.


I hope you are a troll otherwise you are creating some big therapy bills for your kids. You should get some professional help in understanding how kids grow and develop. Having your son and girls from his class standing around talking in the nude is not healthy. your son is likely to actually be at higher risk to be a victim or a perpetrator because he has such skewed ideas about nudity, being naked in public, looking at other people naked, being naked with classmates, naked with his sisters. Your paranoia in trying to avoid one thing has led to bigger problems. A fifteen yr old showering with an eight yr old of the opposite sex is wrong. I can only imagine the response on here if the sexes were reversed and your fifteen yr old son was showering with your eight yr old daughter. You aren't trying to a good parent. Your tunnel vision on molestation has clouded your judgment.