I am not hating on NMS. I think it is good if a school has NMS and football players and dyslexic kids and siblings of NMS or football players or dyslexic kids.

I went to a DC private school. I loved it. I loved city life and taking public transportation and going to Commander Salamander after school. I appreciate the education I was given. (and the orange slices we got at Sidwell after a game)

But that does not take away from other amazing schools in the DC Metro area. They too are amazing and they should not be dissed because they are willing to educated the brothers/sister of the NMS because their learning needs are different. Many of us saw the sibling that did not get accepted. Maybe these school see that the kids that washed out went on to be successful. How did they fail them in the past? Can they do it differently?

My sibling that washed out ended up making more money than both the lawyers combined. (Not that I measure success by salary)

My H who is the product of DC Private is in a service job and very successful (not financially though).

Maybe the mission of the footbal team is to beat Damatha AND the mission of the Ryken program is to education people with learning differences AND the mission of the IB program is to provide a challenging academic program. Can't they all coexist in 1 school?

Do we actually look down on on a school like Paul IV that has a special education program, St. Johns that has the Binilde, or GC has that has the Ryken and then mock them for their lower scores and say the whole school is mediocre. Is that really an accurate assessment?

I am not hating on the NMS but I think they are equally important as all the other children in our community - so maybe that is were the 30% comes from.

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Anonymous wrote:Bullis and Good Counsel are both good schools. Academics and sports are a great combination, and it's pretty much the standard for DC area privates. All schools are not like Sidwell, and.....that's ok.

What people are missing is that Montgomery County is under serving a large group of kids who missed the GT boat by one or two points. If you are dyslexic and GT MoCo is legally required to provide you a challenging education. If you are dyslexic and miss the GT score by 1 point MoCo is not required to allow you in any AP classes. They actually will not let you in these classes. So parents are thankful that GC has IB programs for their IB kid as well as the Ryken for the dyslexic kid. I have also heard that Bullis has a learning center for kids that need extra help. Most these kids are able to handle the higher level classes but not if they are lectured to and left to read the text on their own.

You can say what you want about these two schools but they care less about their ranking and matriculation and they care more about the child. Many of us who are very successful business owners, dyslexic ourselves, are very impressed with schools like Bullis and GC (and many others) because they have not gotten sucked into them National Merit scholar game to get higher rankings for their school. Parents are smart enough (well some of us are) to know that is a game MoCo has been playing for years. It's help the real estate though.

Right... football if the game OLGC and Bullis got sucked into. Who cares about NMS when you have football.

I wasn't talking about football I was talking about all kids with all kinds of learning needs. But since you brought it up. Since I have multiple family members that are NMS and I do actually have 1 brother who was offered many scholarships for football. What is so special about the NMS over the football player? The football player and the NMS are both happy successful people. They had their own path to follow. They both have great families. Why hate the football player and put the NMS on a pedestal?

I really never understood this thinking.

Ho one is hating the football player but you can't have both. When you lower admission standards to create a basketball and football program, you are lowering the academic level of the school.

Both the football player and the NMS have the same career - how is that lowering the standard.

No one is hating anyone, you are the one dissing the NMS. And clearly, your brother's career is not football so while he may be good, he's not THAT good. You cannot deny that, in recent years, both OLGC and Bullis have committed substantial effort and funds to recruiting top talent to their sports, notably, football teams. At OLGC, the mission is beat DeMatha first, and get an education second. Chances are, by today's football standards at OLGC or Bullis, your brother would have a very different experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Bullis and Good Counsel are both good schools. Academics and sports are a great combination, and it's pretty much the standard for DC area privates. All schools are not like Sidwell, and.....that's ok.

What people are missing is that Montgomery County is under serving a large group of kids who missed the GT boat by one or two points. If you are dyslexic and GT MoCo is legally required to provide you a challenging education. If you are dyslexic and miss the GT score by 1 point MoCo is not required to allow you in any AP classes. They actually will not let you in these classes. So parents are thankful that GC has IB programs for their IB kid as well as the Ryken for the dyslexic kid. I have also heard that Bullis has a learning center for kids that need extra help. Most these kids are able to handle the higher level classes but not if they are lectured to and left to read the text on their own.

You can say what you want about these two schools but they care less about their ranking and matriculation and they care more about the child. Many of us who are very successful business owners, dyslexic ourselves, are very impressed with schools like Bullis and GC (and many others) because they have not gotten sucked into them National Merit scholar game to get higher rankings for their school. Parents are smart enough (well some of us are) to know that is a game MoCo has been playing for years. It's help the real estate though.

Right... football if the game OLGC and Bullis got sucked into. Who cares about NMS when you have football.

I wasn't talking about football I was talking about all kids with all kinds of learning needs. But since you brought it up. Since I have multiple family members that are NMS and I do actually have 1 brother who was offered many scholarships for football. What is so special about the NMS over the football player? The football player and the NMS are both happy successful people. They had their own path to follow. They both have great families. Why hate the football player and put the NMS on a pedestal?

I really never understood this thinking.

Ho one is hating the football player but you can't have both. When you lower admission standards to create a basketball and football program, you are lowering the academic level of the school.

Both the football player and the NMS have the same career - how is that lowering the standard.

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Anonymous wrote:Bullis and Good Counsel are both good schools. Academics and sports are a great combination, and it's pretty much the standard for DC area privates. All schools are not like Sidwell, and.....that's ok.

What people are missing is that Montgomery County is under serving a large group of kids who missed the GT boat by one or two points. If you are dyslexic and GT MoCo is legally required to provide you a challenging education. If you are dyslexic and miss the GT score by 1 point MoCo is not required to allow you in any AP classes. They actually will not let you in these classes. So parents are thankful that GC has IB programs for their IB kid as well as the Ryken for the dyslexic kid. I have also heard that Bullis has a learning center for kids that need extra help. Most these kids are able to handle the higher level classes but not if they are lectured to and left to read the text on their own.

You can say what you want about these two schools but they care less about their ranking and matriculation and they care more about the child. Many of us who are very successful business owners, dyslexic ourselves, are very impressed with schools like Bullis and GC (and many others) because they have not gotten sucked into them National Merit scholar game to get higher rankings for their school. Parents are smart enough (well some of us are) to know that is a game MoCo has been playing for years. It's help the real estate though.

Right... football if the game OLGC and Bullis got sucked into. Who cares about NMS when you have football.

I wasn't talking about football I was talking about all kids with all kinds of learning needs. But since you brought it up. Since I have multiple family members that are NMS and I do actually have 1 brother who was offered many scholarships for football. What is so special about the NMS over the football player? The football player and the NMS are both happy successful people. They had their own path to follow. They both have great families. Why hate the football player and put the NMS on a pedestal?

I really never understood this thinking.

Sigh, just one more thing you don't understand. Pardon me, but your mediocre education is showing...

ad hominem arguement?

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Anonymous wrote:Bullis and Good Counsel are both good schools. Academics and sports are a great combination, and it's pretty much the standard for DC area privates. All schools are not like Sidwell, and.....that's ok.

What people are missing is that Montgomery County is under serving a large group of kids who missed the GT boat by one or two points. If you are dyslexic and GT MoCo is legally required to provide you a challenging education. If you are dyslexic and miss the GT score by 1 point MoCo is not required to allow you in any AP classes. They actually will not let you in these classes. So parents are thankful that GC has IB programs for their IB kid as well as the Ryken for the dyslexic kid. I have also heard that Bullis has a learning center for kids that need extra help. Most these kids are able to handle the higher level classes but not if they are lectured to and left to read the text on their own.

You can say what you want about these two schools but they care less about their ranking and matriculation and they care more about the child. Many of us who are very successful business owners, dyslexic ourselves, are very impressed with schools like Bullis and GC (and many others) because they have not gotten sucked into them National Merit scholar game to get higher rankings for their school. Parents are smart enough (well some of us are) to know that is a game MoCo has been playing for years. It's help the real estate though.

Right... football if the game OLGC and Bullis got sucked into. Who cares about NMS when you have football.

I wasn't talking about football I was talking about all kids with all kinds of learning needs. But since you brought it up. Since I have multiple family members that are NMS and I do actually have 1 brother who was offered many scholarships for football. What is so special about the NMS over the football player? The football player and the NMS are both happy successful people. They had their own path to follow. They both have great families. Why hate the football player and put the NMS on a pedestal?

I really never understood this thinking.

Ho one is hating the football player but you can't have both. When you lower admission standards to create a basketball and football program, you are lowering the academic level of the school.

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Anonymous wrote:Bullis and Good Counsel are both good schools. Academics and sports are a great combination, and it's pretty much the standard for DC area privates. All schools are not like Sidwell, and.....that's ok.

What people are missing is that Montgomery County is under serving a large group of kids who missed the GT boat by one or two points. If you are dyslexic and GT MoCo is legally required to provide you a challenging education. If you are dyslexic and miss the GT score by 1 point MoCo is not required to allow you in any AP classes. They actually will not let you in these classes. So parents are thankful that GC has IB programs for their IB kid as well as the Ryken for the dyslexic kid. I have also heard that Bullis has a learning center for kids that need extra help. Most these kids are able to handle the higher level classes but not if they are lectured to and left to read the text on their own.

You can say what you want about these two schools but they care less about their ranking and matriculation and they care more about the child. Many of us who are very successful business owners, dyslexic ourselves, are very impressed with schools like Bullis and GC (and many others) because they have not gotten sucked into them National Merit scholar game to get higher rankings for their school. Parents are smart enough (well some of us are) to know that is a game MoCo has been playing for years. It's help the real estate though.

Right... football if the game OLGC and Bullis got sucked into. Who cares about NMS when you have football.

I wasn't talking about football I was talking about all kids with all kinds of learning needs. But since you brought it up. Since I have multiple family members that are NMS and I do actually have 1 brother who was offered many scholarships for football. What is so special about the NMS over the football player? The football player and the NMS are both happy successful people. They had their own path to follow. They both have great families. Why hate the football player and put the NMS on a pedestal?

I really never understood this thinking.

Sigh, just one more thing you don't understand. Pardon me, but your mediocre education is showing...

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Anonymous wrote:Bullis and Good Counsel are both good schools. Academics and sports are a great combination, and it's pretty much the standard for DC area privates. All schools are not like Sidwell, and.....that's ok.

What people are missing is that Montgomery County is under serving a large group of kids who missed the GT boat by one or two points. If you are dyslexic and GT MoCo is legally required to provide you a challenging education. If you are dyslexic and miss the GT score by 1 point MoCo is not required to allow you in any AP classes. They actually will not let you in these classes. So parents are thankful that GC has IB programs for their IB kid as well as the Ryken for the dyslexic kid. I have also heard that Bullis has a learning center for kids that need extra help. Most these kids are able to handle the higher level classes but not if they are lectured to and left to read the text on their own.

You can say what you want about these two schools but they care less about their ranking and matriculation and they care more about the child. Many of us who are very successful business owners, dyslexic ourselves, are very impressed with schools like Bullis and GC (and many others) because they have not gotten sucked into them National Merit scholar game to get higher rankings for their school. Parents are smart enough (well some of us are) to know that is a game MoCo has been playing for years. It's help the real estate though.

Right... football if the game OLGC and Bullis got sucked into. Who cares about NMS when you have football.

I wasn't talking about football I was talking about all kids with all kinds of learning needs. But since you brought it up. Since I have multiple family members that are NMS and I do actually have 1 brother who was offered many scholarships for football. What is so special about the NMS over the football player? The football player and the NMS are both happy successful people. They had their own path to follow. They both have great families. Why hate the football player and put the NMS on a pedestal?

I really never understood this thinking.

Football! Yay.

Bullis has never been viewed as an academically elite school. Quite frankly its been viewed as the "public school you pay for" for decades. Its not in the same sentence compared to Potomac, Sidwell, STA and Maret. Its not even on the level of Prep, Gonzaga and Landon.

The new headmaster seems obsessed with building a football and basketball program based on the number of recruits and transfers.

I think for $32,000 - there are better alternatives on the market.

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Anonymous wrote:How was college placement in 2012?

Did it improve over years' past?

30% of the Bullis class of 2012 are attending top 35 (USNWR) liberal arts schools or national universities including: Brown, Carnegie Mellon, Cornell (2), Dartmouth, Georgetown (4), Hamilton, Haverford, Michigan (5), NYU (2), UNC Chapel Hill, Princeton, Trinity, Tufts, Vanderbilt (2), UVA (4), Washington and Lee, Wash U (2), Wesleyan and Yale.

College matriculation for class of 2011 was quite good but there weren't as many Ivies.

The USNW rankings for national universities and liberal arts schools are separate -- 35 schools in each category. So 30% of Bullis students are attending the top 70 schools. If you flip the stat, 70% of the graduating class are NOT attending the top 70 college destinations.

Your statement is incoherent.

Any of the schools I've listed are in the top 35 of their respective rankings - either Liberal Arts Colleges or National Universities. A third of the class attending top 35 schools is impressive in anyone's book except yours maybe.

Let's restate. There are two lists: Liberal Arts Colleges and National Universities. You appear to have counted the 70 total colleges/universities that make into the top 35 on either list, and then are trumpeting that 30% of Bullis students were able to get into these 70 schools. That also means 70% of Bullis couldn't get into the top 70 colleges/universities in the US. Quite underwhelming.

Repeating the same thing over and over iand flawed logic s a sign of Alzheimer's Disease.

Not sure why you think the logic is flawed. The fact that a significant majority of the kids at Bullis can't even get into one of the top 70 colleges or universities in the USA is clear. What's funny is that the poster thinks that 30% of students getting into 70 colleges is some sort of great record. Also not sure why someone would make an Alzheimer's crack -- that is an awfully nasty way to go. Low level, Bullis mom, very low level.

Not a Bullis Mom. Don't make assumptions. That is low, very low.

Gosh, let me think: making an assumption that a pro-Bullis poster on DCUM is a Bullis mother, versus accusing someone of having Alzheimer's disease when you disagree with their post. Mmmmmmnmnmmmn, nope, not remotely analogous.

You were unusually nasty even for DCUM and you got called on it. Own it or drop it.

Pot meet kettle.

. If the kettle threw down the Alzheimer's remark I'd give the grime contest to the kettle, particularly as the party of the first pot was just opining on Bullis's college list.

Now, let's go back to the nice flipped classroom series of posts.

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Anonymous wrote:Bullis and Good Counsel are both good schools. Academics and sports are a great combination, and it's pretty much the standard for DC area privates. All schools are not like Sidwell, and.....that's ok.

What people are missing is that Montgomery County is under serving a large group of kids who missed the GT boat by one or two points. If you are dyslexic and GT MoCo is legally required to provide you a challenging education. If you are dyslexic and miss the GT score by 1 point MoCo is not required to allow you in any AP classes. They actually will not let you in these classes. So parents are thankful that GC has IB programs for their IB kid as well as the Ryken for the dyslexic kid. I have also heard that Bullis has a learning center for kids that need extra help. Most these kids are able to handle the higher level classes but not if they are lectured to and left to read the text on their own.

You can say what you want about these two schools but they care less about their ranking and matriculation and they care more about the child. Many of us who are very successful business owners, dyslexic ourselves, are very impressed with schools like Bullis and GC (and many others) because they have not gotten sucked into them National Merit scholar game to get higher rankings for their school. Parents are smart enough (well some of us are) to know that is a game MoCo has been playing for years. It's help the real estate though.

Right... football if the game OLGC and Bullis got sucked into. Who cares about NMS when you have football.

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Anonymous wrote:How was college placement in 2012?

Did it improve over years' past?

30% of the Bullis class of 2012 are attending top 35 (USNWR) liberal arts schools or national universities including: Brown, Carnegie Mellon, Cornell (2), Dartmouth, Georgetown (4), Hamilton, Haverford, Michigan (5), NYU (2), UNC Chapel Hill, Princeton, Trinity, Tufts, Vanderbilt (2), UVA (4), Washington and Lee, Wash U (2), Wesleyan and Yale.

College matriculation for class of 2011 was quite good but there weren't as many Ivies.

The USNW rankings for national universities and liberal arts schools are separate -- 35 schools in each category. So 30% of Bullis students are attending the top 70 schools. If you flip the stat, 70% of the graduating class are NOT attending the top 70 college destinations.

Your statement is incoherent.

Any of the schools I've listed are in the top 35 of their respective rankings - either Liberal Arts Colleges or National Universities. A third of the class attending top 35 schools is impressive in anyone's book except yours maybe.

Let's restate. There are two lists: Liberal Arts Colleges and National Universities. You appear to have counted the 70 total colleges/universities that make into the top 35 on either list, and then are trumpeting that 30% of Bullis students were able to get into these 70 schools. That also means 70% of Bullis couldn't get into the top 70 colleges/universities in the US. Quite underwhelming.

Repeating the same thing over and over iand flawed logic s a sign of Alzheimer's Disease.

Not sure why you think the logic is flawed. The fact that a significant majority of the kids at Bullis can't even get into one of the top 70 colleges or universities in the USA is clear. What's funny is that the poster thinks that 30% of students getting into 70 colleges is some sort of great record. Also not sure why someone would make an Alzheimer's crack -- that is an awfully nasty way to go. Low level, Bullis mom, very low level.

Not a Bullis Mom. Don't make assumptions. That is low, very low.

Gosh, let me think: making an assumption that a pro-Bullis poster on DCUM is a Bullis mother, versus accusing someone of having Alzheimer's disease when you disagree with their post. Mmmmmmnmnmmmn, nope, not remotely analogous.

You were unusually nasty even for DCUM and you got called on it. Own it or drop it.

Pot meet kettle.

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Anonymous wrote:How was college placement in 2012?

Did it improve over years' past?

30% of the Bullis class of 2012 are attending top 35 (USNWR) liberal arts schools or national universities including: Brown, Carnegie Mellon, Cornell (2), Dartmouth, Georgetown (4), Hamilton, Haverford, Michigan (5), NYU (2), UNC Chapel Hill, Princeton, Trinity, Tufts, Vanderbilt (2), UVA (4), Washington and Lee, Wash U (2), Wesleyan and Yale.

College matriculation for class of 2011 was quite good but there weren't as many Ivies.

The USNW rankings for national universities and liberal arts schools are separate -- 35 schools in each category. So 30% of Bullis students are attending the top 70 schools. If you flip the stat, 70% of the graduating class are NOT attending the top 70 college destinations.

Your statement is incoherent.

Any of the schools I've listed are in the top 35 of their respective rankings - either Liberal Arts Colleges or National Universities. A third of the class attending top 35 schools is impressive in anyone's book except yours maybe.

Let's restate. There are two lists: Liberal Arts Colleges and National Universities. You appear to have counted the 70 total colleges/universities that make into the top 35 on either list, and then are trumpeting that 30% of Bullis students were able to get into these 70 schools. That also means 70% of Bullis couldn't get into the top 70 colleges/universities in the US. Quite underwhelming.

Repeating the same thing over and over iand flawed logic s a sign of Alzheimer's Disease.

Not sure why you think the logic is flawed. The fact that a significant majority of the kids at Bullis can't even get into one of the top 70 colleges or universities in the USA is clear. What's funny is that the poster thinks that 30% of students getting into 70 colleges is some sort of great record. Also not sure why someone would make an Alzheimer's crack -- that is an awfully nasty way to go. Low level, Bullis mom, very low level.

Not a Bullis Mom. Don't make assumptions. That is low, very low.

Gosh, let me think: making an assumption that a pro-Bullis poster on DCUM is a Bullis mother, versus accusing someone of having Alzheimer's disease when you disagree with their post. Mmmmmmnmnmmmn, nope, not remotely analogous.

You were unusually nasty even for DCUM and you got called on it. Own it or drop it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How was college placement in 2012?

Did it improve over years' past?

30% of the Bullis class of 2012 are attending top 35 (USNWR) liberal arts schools or national universities including: Brown, Carnegie Mellon, Cornell (2), Dartmouth, Georgetown (4), Hamilton, Haverford, Michigan (5), NYU (2), UNC Chapel Hill, Princeton, Trinity, Tufts, Vanderbilt (2), UVA (4), Washington and Lee, Wash U (2), Wesleyan and Yale.

College matriculation for class of 2011 was quite good but there weren't as many Ivies.

The USNW rankings for national universities and liberal arts schools are separate -- 35 schools in each category. So 30% of Bullis students are attending the top 70 schools. If you flip the stat, 70% of the graduating class are NOT attending the top 70 college destinations.

Your statement is incoherent.

Any of the schools I've listed are in the top 35 of their respective rankings - either Liberal Arts Colleges or National Universities. A third of the class attending top 35 schools is impressive in anyone's book except yours maybe.

Let's restate. There are two lists: Liberal Arts Colleges and National Universities. You appear to have counted the 70 total colleges/universities that make into the top 35 on either list, and then are trumpeting that 30% of Bullis students were able to get into these 70 schools. That also means 70% of Bullis couldn't get into the top 70 colleges/universities in the US. Quite underwhelming.

Repeating the same thing over and over iand flawed logic s a sign of Alzheimer's Disease.

Not sure why you think the logic is flawed. The fact that a significant majority of the kids at Bullis can't even get into one of the top 70 colleges or universities in the USA is clear. What's funny is that the poster thinks that 30% of students getting into 70 colleges is some sort of great record. Also not sure why someone would make an Alzheimer's crack -- that is an awfully nasty way to go. Low level, Bullis mom, very low level.

Not a Bullis Mom. Don't make assumptions. That is low, very low.

Anonymous wrote:Bullis and Good Counsel are both good schools. Academics and sports are a great combination, and it's pretty much the standard for DC area privates. All schools are not like Sidwell, and.....that's ok.

What people are missing is that Montgomery County is under serving a large group of kids who missed the GT boat by one or two points. If you are dyslexic and GT MoCo is legally required to provide you a challenging education. If you are dyslexic and miss the GT score by 1 point MoCo is not required to allow you in any AP classes. They actually will not let you in these classes. So parents are thankful that GC has IB programs for their IB kid as well as the Ryken for the dyslexic kid. I have also heard that Bullis has a learning center for kids that need extra help. Most these kids are able to handle the higher level classes but not if they are lectured to and left to read the text on their own.

You can say what you want about these two schools but they care less about their ranking and matriculation and they care more about the child. Many of us who are very successful business owners, dyslexic ourselves, are very impressed with schools like Bullis and GC (and many others) because they have not gotten sucked into them National Merit scholar game to get higher rankings for their school. Parents are smart enough (well some of us are) to know that is a game MoCo has been playing for years. It's help the real estate though.