How was she poor? 5 kids in a mobile home is not homelessness. Just a lifestyle choice.

Here's the thing that makes me most upset. Say this woman got herself in a situation where she had 5 kids and realized she couldn't or didn't want to take care of them. There are tons of families who would love to adopt a healthy child under the age of 5. Yes, I know people prefer babies, but younger kids without health issues still get adopted. Why didn't she give them up so that a family who would value them and be able to and want to take care of them would be able to do so?

I don't understand how come the kids were not taken away from this woman by the state.

Anonymous wrote:here's the thing -- i don't mind being judged. not stoned, maybe, but i think that social mores help set boundaries and norms. we don't all have to be or think the same, but a common sense of purpose and right and wrong is, in my opinion, a good thing. this "if it feels good do it, any choice you make (or default into) is ok" attitude is not good for this country, and especially not for kids or its weakest and most vulnerable. not judging all too often means that we don't expect people to make good choices, change bad ones, or make a change for the good. i have posted often on this thread because i feel very strongly that being a parent is the most important thing we as humans can do; it is the only decision I can think of that is 100% ours and affects another person (the child) 100%. those poor kids didn't ask to be born, and yet that horrible woman destroyed their lives.

I'm glad to hear at least that you're pro-choice.

Anonymous wrote:What I learned from this thread:

Liberals think its ok to have 6 kids by 6 different men starting at age 16, and to lock my kids in a trailer at night and go clubbing as long as I'm black. Being black excuses me from any for of responsibility or personal accountability. It's the slave owners fault that I make terrible decisions. My brain isn't developed enough to have the innate sense not to do something as stupid as this. It's George Bush's fault.

What I learned from you: you're learning impaired.

here's the thing -- i don't mind being judged. not stoned, maybe, but i think that social mores help set boundaries and norms. we don't all have to be or think the same, but a common sense of purpose and right and wrong is, in my opinion, a good thing. this "if it feels good do it, any choice you make (or default into) is ok" attitude is not good for this country, and especially not for kids or its weakest and most vulnerable. not judging all too often means that we don't expect people to make good choices, change bad ones, or make a change for the good. i have posted often on this thread because i feel very strongly that being a parent is the most important thing we as humans can do; it is the only decision I can think of that is 100% ours and affects another person (the child) 100%. those poor kids didn't ask to be born, and yet that horrible woman destroyed their lives.

What I learned from this thread:

Liberals think its ok to have 6 kids by 6 different men starting at age 16, and to lock my kids in a trailer at night and go clubbing as long as I'm black. Being black excuses me from any for of responsibility or personal accountability. It's the slave owners fault that I make terrible decisions. My brain isn't developed enough to have the innate sense not to do something as stupid as this. It's George Bush's fault.

Anonymous wrote:In terms of the "6 kids by 4+ fathers" issue, has anyone considered that the fact that this woman likely has mental health issues, severe addiction issues, or may have a very low IQ and not have the mental ability to make what we would consider rational decisions?

I've worked with women like this as an RN in a pregnancy/addiction clinic in Baltimore. I'm seen countless women who have 5-15 kids by different men and have been severely addicted to heroin their entire lives. Many pregnancies the result of prostitution, rape, etc (often while the woman is high or intoxicated).

I don't condone what this woman did but women who have these high numbers of unsupported kids are generally dealing with some incredibly tough situations (often across multiple generations).

heroin addiction - no pity.
low IQ - no excuse.

Anonymous wrote:
Neither. I was laughing at your hysterics.

Yeah, I could understand why someone like you would consider that hysterics. But, that is your state of non-grace and judgmental attitude about people who are unlike you. I also understand that empathy and sympathy is taught, and somehow someone failed you. I'll pray for you and those like you. No, that's a lie, and God knows it's a lie. I really won't.