PP, that posted too quickly...
And most new start-ups, charter or DCPS will also flounder without an effective leader and staff/resources...it's not just student demographics

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You have it backwards. Neighborhood families wanted to attend Hardy. Pope didn't want them and actively discouraged and harassed them. Then he acted like a petulant child, deciding if he couldn't have his way he would do his best to destroy the school.

How is he powerful enough to destroy the school by merely being fired? What put Hardy on the skids was failure by DCPS to provide an effective, full-time administrator, once pope was removed/left/whatever

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Anonymous wrote:Pope was rightfully fired because, as has been well-reported, he unlawfully cherry-picked the OOB students who were admitted. Only the more affluent, well-behaved OOB students were admitted. He left the poor out in the cold. Because of Jeff's profound bias in favor of Pope, he will delete this post.

Ward 3 parents wanted to put a stop to affluent, well-behaved OOB students in their midst? Didn't want their kids in the same school with them in their own neighborhood> W3 parents were motivated to action by the horror of leaving poor children out in the cold - and in their own ward, yet!

so--- let's see -- now the kids at Hardy are not so affluent and well behaved and the W3 parents want another school. Some logic.

You have it backwards. Neighborhood families wanted to attend Hardy. Pope didn't want them and actively discouraged and harassed them. Then he acted like a petulant child, deciding if he couldn't have his way he would do his best to destroy the school.

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Why not stop drinking the bitter and start doing something to improve your own situation?

Why not stop assuming my situation needs improvement?

I really do hope you're putting us on. I hate to think that I pass people like you while shopping at whole foods.

Hardy is in Ward 2!!

Anonymous wrote:Pope was rightfully fired because, as has been well-reported, he unlawfully cherry-picked the OOB students who were admitted. Only the more affluent, well-behaved OOB students were admitted. He left the poor out in the cold. Because of Jeff's profound bias in favor of Pope, he will delete this post.

Ward 3 parents wanted to put a stop to affluent, well-behaved OOB students in their midst? Didn't want their kids in the same school with them in their own neighborhood> W3 parents were motivated to action by the horror of leaving poor children out in the cold - and in their own ward, yet!

so--- let's see -- now the kids at Hardy are not so affluent and well behaved and the W3 parents want another school. Some logic.

Yeah. We want a neighborhood school with neighborhood kids in it (and because we know how to organize, we'll get it). That's really exclusionary and racist of us.

Why not stop drinking the bitter and start doing something to improve your own situation?

1. Yes, it is exclusionary and racist. You have a neighborhood school and it has room for you. It's called Hardy.

2. Ward 5's situation IS your situation. DCPS is a single jurisdiction. W3 is not another city.

Pope wasn't fired and yes, there was an application, but cherry picking OOB affluent students is a stretch from my experience when my kid was there. As far as neighborhood parents wanting a neighborhood school for their kids, they have one and nothing is preventing them from attending Hardy.

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Yeah, I'm not sure why the IB parents don't pour their efforts into Hardy (beautifully remodeled, aaah!). Is it extremely far for them? I am trying to imagine how kids on the far end of Palisades are to get there via public transport.

They tried that. Most didn't like being called racists for their trouble and gave up.

read further back in the tread - With the help of Chancellor Rhee, they managed to oust the principal, but not the students, so now some parents want their own school, with the right sort of kids in it. They don't mind acting in exclusionary ways to get the best for their kids, but they don't want to be called racist while doing it.

Yeah. We want a neighborhood school with neighborhood kids in it (and because we know how to organize, we'll get it). That's really exclusionary and racist of us.

Why not stop drinking the bitter and start doing something to improve your own situation?

That's funny. DCPS can continue to cater to WArd 3 while ignoring the remaining seven. Soon, all the children will attend charters and ward 3 schools only. With only one ward of students in the system, there really is no need for Kaya and all her peeps.

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The residents of Ward 5 are interested in a middle school that offers advance math, science, languages and technology.

how come we never hear about this? I'm planning to move to ward 5 in the fall, and all I've heard from folks is that charter and private are the best option in ward 5 and no one I talked with seemed especially interested in getting a DCSP middle school of any type in ward 5. If it happens, that is great news! Is there a ward 5 news outlet you recommend that covers this kind of information? thanks!

It was all over the Brookland and Woodridge list serves. Meetings were held, but not much help came of it. Kaya appeared at one. Her surrogate attended another. I have not heard anything else since the spring. The chatter was that former Brookland ES become a middle school. However, absolutely none of the residents were interested in a MS just to have a MS. The interest was in a middle school that would compete with Deal and the charters.

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Anonymous wrote:

Yeah, I'm not sure why the IB parents don't pour their efforts into Hardy (beautifully remodeled, aaah!). Is it extremely far for them? I am trying to imagine how kids on the far end of Palisades are to get there via public transport.

They tried that. Most didn't like being called racists for their trouble and gave up.

read further back in the tread - With the help of Chancellor Rhee, they managed to oust the principal, but not the students, so now some parents want their own school, with the right sort of kids in it. They don't mind acting in exclusionary ways to get the best for their kids, but they don't want to be called racist while doing it.

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The residents of Ward 5 are interested in a middle school that offers advance math, science, languages and technology.

how come we never hear about this? I'm planning to move to ward 5 in the fall, and all I've heard from folks is that charter and private are the best option in ward 5 and no one I talked with seemed especially interested in getting a DCSP middle school of any type in ward 5. If it happens, that is great news! Is there a ward 5 news outlet you recommend that covers this kind of information? thanks!

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Yeah, I'm not sure why the IB parents don't pour their efforts into Hardy (beautifully remodeled, aaah!). Is it extremely far for them? I am trying to imagine how kids on the far end of Palisades are to get there via public transport.

They tried that. Most didn't like being called racists for their trouble and gave up.

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Anonymous wrote:So those not in bound at Hardy can stay at Hardy as it's better for them - perhaps the trip across town serves as a barrier to their neighbors they'd prefer not to see in school.

The only reason so many OOB Hardy kids can stay there is that the IB parents don't want their kids there with so many OOB (let's call them Black) kids. If the IB kids started going to Hardy, there'd be fewer spaces for OOB kids and because it's not a charter, IB would take precedence.

But IB parents are asking the city to build a new school for them instead.

Yeah, I'm not sure why the IB parents don't pour their efforts into Hardy (beautifully remodeled, aaah!). Is it extremely far for them? I am trying to imagine how kids on the far end of Palisades are to get there via public transport.