Anonymous wrote:On the other hand, if unhooked students are not set on HYP and are looking for high quality education and a top college (and Chicago and Cornell are both top colleges), TT schools would be a logical choice.

FWIW, as a completely unhooked parent, I would be very happy with DC going to Cornell or Chicago. The program is they seem to want MIT which takes ED out of the equation and turns the whole process into an absolute nightmare.

Anonymous wrote:I was told by an admin at Brearley that if your kid wasn't a legacy at a HYP, and your heart was dead set on a HYP, you would do better to leave and do high school elsewhere, because the legacies have first dibs, especially the very wealthy ones, and that people without those connects rarely get in from the school. Who knows if it was true, but its what they said.

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Anonymous wrote:Dalton has 10 to harvard. many hooked but still. not all posted yet

That's impressive. 7 from Brearley's class of 60-65 is also outstanding..

AFAIK, only 2 of them are unhooked, and at least one of them has national level achievements unrelated to the school.

There are parents who went to Harvard (and other ivies) at every private school in the city. And rich parents at every private school. And FGLI kids at every private school. And star athletes at every private school. And so on. But only the TTs have these kind of stats. Of course hooks provide the edge, but those hooks exist everywhere and there is a reason the TTs do better than the other schools.

Are you saying those admits wouldn't have made it to Harvard if they were at a different school?

It’s a delusional view. They have gotten in from anywhere 9/10 times, if not more. This kool-aid suckers in unhooked families who have a rude awakening 13 years later.

Yeah, everyone unhooked who goes to a TT private is a sucker with no chance for college success. Sure sure. That makes total sense.

If you think (like many do) that going to a TT helps when applying to HYP you’re mistaken. Many find this out senior spring.

Bingo. If you want HYP unhooked go to SHSAT or be a star at T2

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Anonymous wrote:Dalton has 10 to harvard. many hooked but still. not all posted yet

That's impressive. 7 from Brearley's class of 60-65 is also outstanding..

AFAIK, only 2 of them are unhooked, and at least one of them has national level achievements unrelated to the school.

There are parents who went to Harvard (and other ivies) at every private school in the city. And rich parents at every private school. And FGLI kids at every private school. And star athletes at every private school. And so on. But only the TTs have these kind of stats. Of course hooks provide the edge, but those hooks exist everywhere and there is a reason the TTs do better than the other schools.

Are you saying those admits wouldn't have made it to Harvard if they were at a different school?

It’s a delusional view. They have gotten in from anywhere 9/10 times, if not more. This kool-aid suckers in unhooked families who have a rude awakening 13 years later.

Yeah, everyone unhooked who goes to a TT private is a sucker with no chance for college success. Sure sure. That makes total sense.

If you think (like many do) that going to a TT helps when applying to HYP you’re mistaken. Many find this out senior spring.

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Anonymous wrote:Dalton has 10 to harvard. many hooked but still. not all posted yet

That's impressive. 7 from Brearley's class of 60-65 is also outstanding..

AFAIK, only 2 of them are unhooked, and at least one of them has national level achievements unrelated to the school.

There are parents who went to Harvard (and other ivies) at every private school in the city. And rich parents at every private school. And FGLI kids at every private school. And star athletes at every private school. And so on. But only the TTs have these kind of stats. Of course hooks provide the edge, but those hooks exist everywhere and there is a reason the TTs do better than the other schools.

Are you saying those admits wouldn't have made it to Harvard if they were at a different school?

It’s a delusional view. They have gotten in from anywhere 9/10 times, if not more. This kool-aid suckers in unhooked families who have a rude awakening 13 years later.

Yeah, everyone unhooked who goes to a TT private is a sucker with no chance for college success. Sure sure. That makes total sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Dalton has 10 to harvard. many hooked but still. not all posted yet

That's impressive. 7 from Brearley's class of 60-65 is also outstanding..

AFAIK, only 2 of them are unhooked, and at least one of them has national level achievements unrelated to the school.

There are parents who went to Harvard (and other ivies) at every private school in the city. And rich parents at every private school. And FGLI kids at every private school. And star athletes at every private school. And so on. But only the TTs have these kind of stats. Of course hooks provide the edge, but those hooks exist everywhere and there is a reason the TTs do better than the other schools.

Are you saying those admits wouldn't have made it to Harvard if they were at a different school?

No. I’m saying Brearley attracts the top students and they’re not getting in just because of hooks (otherwise you’d see the same numbers at other schools where these hooks also exist). They’re getting in because they have the goods (hooks alone won’t do it). Though I do assume that colleges know Brearley and thus know that if you are high achieving there, you’ll be a great fit for the college. So in that sense, I suppose the school does help and perhaps they wouldn't be as successful if at another non-TT private that is not as highly regarded by the colleges.

When you are hooked (parent gave eight figures, squash recruit, black with a 1500 SAT) it doesn’t matter where you went to HS. Hooked is hooked anywhere

Ok great. Then we can agree that the reason the TTs do some much better is not because of hooks (as someone suggested above and as is usually thrown out as the reason for such great matriculation stats at TT schools). Because I see no reason why hooks are restricted to those schools. And I know for a fact that they are not.

Schools like HM and Trinity have an easier go of it getting rich, hooked families to enroll v Trevor or Dwight. They also have bigger classes than smaller schools that have a higher percentage go to HYP. There is zero incentive for Harvard to accept a bunch of unhooked applicants from Brearley v a good suburban public. If ten from a private are going to Harvard, no more than 1-2 are unhooked.

The incentive is they are better students and better educated and well known by the school to be able to thrive there. That's the answer.

If you think HYP is differentiating between B and Trinity and saying the former has better students so they must accept more, you’re delusional. B just had richer connected parents or FGLI or sports recruits in a given year. Nothing more nothing less

What the heck are you taking about? We're talking about TT schools vs non-TT schools (or in PP's example, Brearley vs. suburban public); not Brearley vs. Trinity. The colleges absolutely know the difference between Brearley and Dwight (in a prior given example) or Brearley vs. NJ public school.

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Anonymous wrote:Dalton has 10 to harvard. many hooked but still. not all posted yet

That's impressive. 7 from Brearley's class of 60-65 is also outstanding..

AFAIK, only 2 of them are unhooked, and at least one of them has national level achievements unrelated to the school.

There are parents who went to Harvard (and other ivies) at every private school in the city. And rich parents at every private school. And FGLI kids at every private school. And star athletes at every private school. And so on. But only the TTs have these kind of stats. Of course hooks provide the edge, but those hooks exist everywhere and there is a reason the TTs do better than the other schools.

Are you saying those admits wouldn't have made it to Harvard if they were at a different school?

No. I’m saying Brearley attracts the top students and they’re not getting in just because of hooks (otherwise you’d see the same numbers at other schools where these hooks also exist). They’re getting in because they have the goods (hooks alone won’t do it). Though I do assume that colleges know Brearley and thus know that if you are high achieving there, you’ll be a great fit for the college. So in that sense, I suppose the school does help and perhaps they wouldn't be as successful if at another non-TT private that is not as highly regarded by the colleges.

When you are hooked (parent gave eight figures, squash recruit, black with a 1500 SAT) it doesn’t matter where you went to HS. Hooked is hooked anywhere

Ok great. Then we can agree that the reason the TTs do some much better is not because of hooks (as someone suggested above and as is usually thrown out as the reason for such great matriculation stats at TT schools). Because I see no reason why hooks are restricted to those schools. And I know for a fact that they are not.

Schools like HM and Trinity have an easier go of it getting rich, hooked families to enroll v Trevor or Dwight. They also have bigger classes than smaller schools that have a higher percentage go to HYP. There is zero incentive for Harvard to accept a bunch of unhooked applicants from Brearley v a good suburban public. If ten from a private are going to Harvard, no more than 1-2 are unhooked.

The incentive is they are better students and better educated and well known by the school to be able to thrive there. That's the answer.

It becomes obvious when you see families with 3+ kids attend 1-3T HS and all kids go on to attend Harvard afterwards.

As an example, Odd Mom Out.

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Anonymous wrote:Dalton has 10 to harvard. many hooked but still. not all posted yet

That's impressive. 7 from Brearley's class of 60-65 is also outstanding..

AFAIK, only 2 of them are unhooked, and at least one of them has national level achievements unrelated to the school.

There are parents who went to Harvard (and other ivies) at every private school in the city. And rich parents at every private school. And FGLI kids at every private school. And star athletes at every private school. And so on. But only the TTs have these kind of stats. Of course hooks provide the edge, but those hooks exist everywhere and there is a reason the TTs do better than the other schools.

Are you saying those admits wouldn't have made it to Harvard if they were at a different school?

It’s a delusional view. They have gotten in from anywhere 9/10 times, if not more. This kool-aid suckers in unhooked families who have a rude awakening 13 years later.

Yeah, everyone unhooked who goes to a TT private is a sucker with no chance for college success. Sure sure. That makes total sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Dalton has 10 to harvard. many hooked but still. not all posted yet

That's impressive. 7 from Brearley's class of 60-65 is also outstanding..

AFAIK, only 2 of them are unhooked, and at least one of them has national level achievements unrelated to the school.

There are parents who went to Harvard (and other ivies) at every private school in the city. And rich parents at every private school. And FGLI kids at every private school. And star athletes at every private school. And so on. But only the TTs have these kind of stats. Of course hooks provide the edge, but those hooks exist everywhere and there is a reason the TTs do better than the other schools.

Are you saying those admits wouldn't have made it to Harvard if they were at a different school?

No. I’m saying Brearley attracts the top students and they’re not getting in just because of hooks (otherwise you’d see the same numbers at other schools where these hooks also exist). They’re getting in because they have the goods (hooks alone won’t do it). Though I do assume that colleges know Brearley and thus know that if you are high achieving there, you’ll be a great fit for the college. So in that sense, I suppose the school does help and perhaps they wouldn't be as successful if at another non-TT private that is not as highly regarded by the colleges.

When you are hooked (parent gave eight figures, squash recruit, black with a 1500 SAT) it doesn’t matter where you went to HS. Hooked is hooked anywhere

Ok great. Then we can agree that the reason the TTs do some much better is not because of hooks (as someone suggested above and as is usually thrown out as the reason for such great matriculation stats at TT schools). Because I see no reason why hooks are restricted to those schools. And I know for a fact that they are not.

Schools like HM and Trinity have an easier go of it getting rich, hooked families to enroll v Trevor or Dwight. They also have bigger classes than smaller schools that have a higher percentage go to HYP. There is zero incentive for Harvard to accept a bunch of unhooked applicants from Brearley v a good suburban public. If ten from a private are going to Harvard, no more than 1-2 are unhooked.

The incentive is they are better students and better educated and well known by the school to be able to thrive there. That's the answer.

It becomes obvious when you see families with 3+ kids attend 1-3T HS and all kids go on to attend Harvard afterwards.

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Anonymous wrote:Dalton has 10 to harvard. many hooked but still. not all posted yet

That's impressive. 7 from Brearley's class of 60-65 is also outstanding..

AFAIK, only 2 of them are unhooked, and at least one of them has national level achievements unrelated to the school.

There are parents who went to Harvard (and other ivies) at every private school in the city. And rich parents at every private school. And FGLI kids at every private school. And star athletes at every private school. And so on. But only the TTs have these kind of stats. Of course hooks provide the edge, but those hooks exist everywhere and there is a reason the TTs do better than the other schools.

Are you saying those admits wouldn't have made it to Harvard if they were at a different school?

It’s a delusional view. They have gotten in from anywhere 9/10 times, if not more. This kool-aid suckers in unhooked families who have a rude awakening 13 years later.

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Anonymous wrote:Dalton has 10 to harvard. many hooked but still. not all posted yet

That's impressive. 7 from Brearley's class of 60-65 is also outstanding..

AFAIK, only 2 of them are unhooked, and at least one of them has national level achievements unrelated to the school.

There are parents who went to Harvard (and other ivies) at every private school in the city. And rich parents at every private school. And FGLI kids at every private school. And star athletes at every private school. And so on. But only the TTs have these kind of stats. Of course hooks provide the edge, but those hooks exist everywhere and there is a reason the TTs do better than the other schools.

Are you saying those admits wouldn't have made it to Harvard if they were at a different school?

No. I’m saying Brearley attracts the top students and they’re not getting in just because of hooks (otherwise you’d see the same numbers at other schools where these hooks also exist). They’re getting in because they have the goods (hooks alone won’t do it). Though I do assume that colleges know Brearley and thus know that if you are high achieving there, you’ll be a great fit for the college. So in that sense, I suppose the school does help and perhaps they wouldn't be as successful if at another non-TT private that is not as highly regarded by the colleges.

When you are hooked (parent gave eight figures, squash recruit, black with a 1500 SAT) it doesn’t matter where you went to HS. Hooked is hooked anywhere

Ok great. Then we can agree that the reason the TTs do some much better is not because of hooks (as someone suggested above and as is usually thrown out as the reason for such great matriculation stats at TT schools). Because I see no reason why hooks are restricted to those schools. And I know for a fact that they are not.

Schools like HM and Trinity have an easier go of it getting rich, hooked families to enroll v Trevor or Dwight. They also have bigger classes than smaller schools that have a higher percentage go to HYP. There is zero incentive for Harvard to accept a bunch of unhooked applicants from Brearley v a good suburban public. If ten from a private are going to Harvard, no more than 1-2 are unhooked.

The incentive is they are better students and better educated and well known by the school to be able to thrive there. That's the answer.

If you think HYP is differentiating between B and Trinity and saying the former has better students so they must accept more, you’re delusional. B just had richer connected parents or FGLI or sports recruits in a given year. Nothing more nothing less

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Anonymous wrote:Dalton has 10 to harvard. many hooked but still. not all posted yet

That's impressive. 7 from Brearley's class of 60-65 is also outstanding..

AFAIK, only 2 of them are unhooked, and at least one of them has national level achievements unrelated to the school.

There are parents who went to Harvard (and other ivies) at every private school in the city. And rich parents at every private school. And FGLI kids at every private school. And star athletes at every private school. And so on. But only the TTs have these kind of stats. Of course hooks provide the edge, but those hooks exist everywhere and there is a reason the TTs do better than the other schools.

Are you saying those admits wouldn't have made it to Harvard if they were at a different school?

No. I’m saying Brearley attracts the top students and they’re not getting in just because of hooks (otherwise you’d see the same numbers at other schools where these hooks also exist). They’re getting in because they have the goods (hooks alone won’t do it). Though I do assume that colleges know Brearley and thus know that if you are high achieving there, you’ll be a great fit for the college. So in that sense, I suppose the school does help and perhaps they wouldn't be as successful if at another non-TT private that is not as highly regarded by the colleges.

When you are hooked (parent gave eight figures, squash recruit, black with a 1500 SAT) it doesn’t matter where you went to HS. Hooked is hooked anywhere

Ok great. Then we can agree that the reason the TTs do some much better is not because of hooks (as someone suggested above and as is usually thrown out as the reason for such great matriculation stats at TT schools). Because I see no reason why hooks are restricted to those schools. And I know for a fact that they are not.

Schools like HM and Trinity have an easier go of it getting rich, hooked families to enroll v Trevor or Dwight. They also have bigger classes than smaller schools that have a higher percentage go to HYP. There is zero incentive for Harvard to accept a bunch of unhooked applicants from Brearley v a good suburban public. If ten from a private are going to Harvard, no more than 1-2 are unhooked.

The incentive is they are better students and better educated and well known by the school to be able to thrive there. That's the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:Dalton has 10 to harvard. many hooked but still. not all posted yet

That's impressive. 7 from Brearley's class of 60-65 is also outstanding..

AFAIK, only 2 of them are unhooked, and at least one of them has national level achievements unrelated to the school.

There are parents who went to Harvard (and other ivies) at every private school in the city. And rich parents at every private school. And FGLI kids at every private school. And star athletes at every private school. And so on. But only the TTs have these kind of stats. Of course hooks provide the edge, but those hooks exist everywhere and there is a reason the TTs do better than the other schools.

Are you saying those admits wouldn't have made it to Harvard if they were at a different school?