Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the same troll who starts threads on the injustices of private school under the guise of being "new to the area" and just asking a loaded question. Then when anyone disagrees she responds with sarcasm. Try to ignore her
Could be a troll, but the question remains valid. Why do schools accept socioeconomic segregation. Is that consistent with the goals of social justice and inclusion that they preach? Maybe, but it doesn’t look so.
It's not a smart question. Most private schools don't have a goal of social justice and inclusion, they have a goal of high quality academic education in a low conflict environment. There is no economic model that would work for this goal with a broad SES community, they need way too much tuition money to make it work. Private entities, whether schools or stores or clubs, are there to provide a good or service for a fee and those who can't pay are rarely included. This is how capitalism works. We're also not giving away Porches in a lottery, people have to pay for them.
But still there is the consensus to avoid racial segregation in expensive schools with the goal of inclusiveness (most schools publish their numbers). Why not having the same goal with socioeconomic inclusion. Are poor people more violent and ignorant ? That’s how people thought about non-white people 50 years ago. I think there are merits in broadening the concept of diversity, even for expensive schools.
No, there is no consensus on any diversity targets for private schools. You think there are merits for your arguments and you might be able to make them a reality if you gave several million dollars to a school, but without the additional resources your ideas don't work. And the quality of the education, which costs money, will always be more important than any diversity goals.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the same troll who starts threads on the injustices of private school under the guise of being "new to the area" and just asking a loaded question. Then when anyone disagrees she responds with sarcasm. Try to ignore her
Could be a troll, but the question remains valid. Why do schools accept socioeconomic segregation. Is that consistent with the goals of social justice and inclusion that they preach? Maybe, but it doesn’t look so.
It's not a smart question. Most private schools don't have a goal of social justice and inclusion, they have a goal of high quality academic education in a low conflict environment. There is no economic model that would work for this goal with a broad SES community, they need way too much tuition money to make it work. Private entities, whether schools or stores or clubs, are there to provide a good or service for a fee and those who can't pay are rarely included. This is how capitalism works. We're also not giving away Porches in a lottery, people have to pay for them.
But still there is the consensus to avoid racial segregation in expensive schools with the goal of inclusiveness (most schools publish their numbers). Why not having the same goal with socioeconomic inclusion. Are poor people more violent and ignorant ? That’s how people thought about non-white people 50 years ago. I think there are merits in broadening the concept of diversity, even for expensive schools.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a rich person myself I cannot stand private school parents. They absolutely positively think their kids are too special to go to school with kids without money and don’t think their kids can possibly learn something and be better off from the experience. It’s pathetic.
As someone who truly believes my kids belong among the masses I cannot stand people who drive their kids around in cars rather than having them solely ride public transportation, like my family does. People who drive their families in cars simply think they are better than those of us on the bus and metro, they don't think their kids could possibly learn something and be better off from the experience. And my values and experience are clearly the only right ones.
Not even remotely clever.
Tell me that on the bus.
Equally unclever. And I’m typing this on the metro.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a rich person myself I cannot stand private school parents. They absolutely positively think their kids are too special to go to school with kids without money and don’t think their kids can possibly learn something and be better off from the experience. It’s pathetic.
As someone who truly believes my kids belong among the masses I cannot stand people who drive their kids around in cars rather than having them solely ride public transportation, like my family does. People who drive their families in cars simply think they are better than those of us on the bus and metro, they don't think their kids could possibly learn something and be better off from the experience. And my values and experience are clearly the only right ones.
Not even remotely clever.
Tell me that on the bus.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the same troll who starts threads on the injustices of private school under the guise of being "new to the area" and just asking a loaded question. Then when anyone disagrees she responds with sarcasm. Try to ignore her
Could be a troll, but the question remains valid. Why do schools accept socioeconomic segregation. Is that consistent with the goals of social justice and inclusion that they preach? Maybe, but it doesn’t look so.
It's not a smart question. Most private schools don't have a goal of social justice and inclusion, they have a goal of high quality academic education in a low conflict environment. There is no economic model that would work for this goal with a broad SES community, they need way too much tuition money to make it work. Private entities, whether schools or stores or clubs, are there to provide a good or service for a fee and those who can't pay are rarely included. This is how capitalism works. We're also not giving away Porches in a lottery, people have to pay for them.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a rich person myself I cannot stand private school parents. They absolutely positively think their kids are too special to go to school with kids without money and don’t think their kids can possibly learn something and be better off from the experience. It’s pathetic.
As someone who truly believes my kids belong among the masses I cannot stand people who drive their kids around in cars rather than having them solely ride public transportation, like my family does. People who drive their families in cars simply think they are better than those of us on the bus and metro, they don't think their kids could possibly learn something and be better off from the experience. And my values and experience are clearly the only right ones.
Not even remotely clever.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a rich person myself I cannot stand private school parents. They absolutely positively think their kids are too special to go to school with kids without money and don’t think their kids can possibly learn something and be better off from the experience. It’s pathetic.
As someone who truly believes my kids belong among the masses I cannot stand people who drive their kids around in cars rather than having them solely ride public transportation, like my family does. People who drive their families in cars simply think they are better than those of us on the bus and metro, they don't think their kids could possibly learn something and be better off from the experience. And my values and experience are clearly the only right ones.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As a rich person myself I cannot stand private school parents. They absolutely positively think their kids are too special to go to school with kids without money and don’t think their kids can possibly learn something and be better off from the experience. It’s pathetic.
We are a wealthy and involved very active and caring family who put our kids in our supposedly excellent public. My son has gotten stabbed with a pencil, threatened by a kid with scissors, seen knives, threats of guns, physical violence, teachers, using F bombs and other dismissive commentary, 32 kids per class, had had things constantly stolen and is ignored and overlooked because the teachers are so overworked. Kids in ankle monitoring bands, and worse. We are heading to private. It’s our public school systems loss. Not ours.
Anonymous wrote:As a rich person myself I cannot stand private school parents. They absolutely positively think their kids are too special to go to school with kids without money and don’t think their kids can possibly learn something and be better off from the experience. It’s pathetic.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This is the same troll who starts threads on the injustices of private school under the guise of being "new to the area" and just asking a loaded question. Then when anyone disagrees she responds with sarcasm. Try to ignore her
Could be a troll, but the question remains valid. Why do schools accept socioeconomic segregation. Is that consistent with the goals of social justice and inclusion that they preach? Maybe, but it doesn’t look so.
Anonymous wrote:This is the same troll who starts threads on the injustices of private school under the guise of being "new to the area" and just asking a loaded question. Then when anyone disagrees she responds with sarcasm. Try to ignore her