Anonymous
Post 11/08/2025 02:48     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
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Anonymous wrote:Only about 8k kids a year get a 1560+ without superscoring. Pretty shocking.

There are, what, 4 million high school grads per year and just under 2 million SAT test takers?



And yet it feels like 7,999 of their parents post on DCUM.


And THEN they’ll say “our circle of friends and neighbors are brilliant with high IQs and it’s genetic”.

I don’t think too many people got tutoring or classes decades ago. One and done and you moved on.

I read an article on athletes and US leaders SAT or ACT scores. Athletes were in the average range of 900 to 1150. There genius is physical and mental not all in books.

Bush Jr got 1206, Bill Clinton 1032, John Kerry 1190. Families with Bush and Kerry were important. Clinton had other talents.


Unless your kid goes to a magnet school for science, math and technology it’s doubtful too many students got over 1500. Regular private school not so many.


Kids superscored back in the 80s. Maybe not quite as much as these days, but most likely of the high achievers from my HS took it at least twice.

Anonymous
Post 11/08/2025 02:44     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
Anonymous wrote:You are way more likely to hear about the high scorers. No one is going around bragging about a 1350 or 1420.


I’ll be bragging if my youngest gets that score. It’s 300 - 400 points above average.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2025 02:23     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
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Anonymous wrote:I had one kid taking the SAT in 2022 (when it was on paper) and one who took the digital year. Lots of kids at their private getting over 1500 both years


Average SAT at TJ was around 1520 before the unqualified kids were let in.


TJ still has the highest SAT scores than any other high school in the DMV. C
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2025 02:21     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
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Anonymous wrote:I had one kid taking the SAT in 2022 (when it was on paper) and one who took the digital year. Lots of kids at their private getting over 1500 both years


I bet if you looked at Naviance, you eould see that very few kids at your private school scored over 1500.

Our high performing high school has between 625-725 seniors on a given year. In all the years we have had kids there, naviance only shows around a dozen kids breaking 1500 on the SAT.

There is zero chance that your private school with a senior class of a couple hundred kids has "lots" of kids scoring over 1500.


How could you possible know this? If it’s truly a high-performing high school then I’d guess that at least 10% of the student body would have 1500+ (at least!).
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2025 02:16     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
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Anonymous wrote:Only about 8k kids a year get a 1560+ without superscoring. Pretty shocking.

There are, what, 4 million high school grads per year and just under 2 million SAT test takers?



And yet it feels like 7,999 of their parents post on DCUM.

I mean, test scores are measurably higher in the DMV.


Do you have a link ? DC, Maryland and Virginia are pretty average with regard to schools with the exception of a few specialty schools.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2025 02:12     Subject: Re:Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
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Anonymous wrote:The iPhone/E generation is coming out strong…different from the 05 birth year when kids didn’t grow up with iPhones or iPads in their hands since K. My 05 dud t have a phone until almost 9th grade. He is/was a voracious reader…hence the perfect in vocab SAT; and act English & reading.

The math went down for younger Covid kids too. 05 was already through geometry before everything shutdown.

Def see a difference even in my own house. Younger one had to really prep to pull score up.


my kids high school teachers say they can see a difference between pre and post cell phones, but they also say they see a cliff after this year's senior class, which they attribute to either Covid and/or explosion of kids using AI to do writing/math/science etc assignments.


The difference is few teachers teach, there is no spelling, vocabulary, grammar, no reading books in school, etc.


Honestly this. My child has APUSH and AP eng lang this year and there is very little teaching going on. I’m very disappointed- I recall when I took those classes they were lively and the teacher pretty much lectured and taught material the entire class period. It’s all small group “discussions” now to which most of the kids just look at each other silently or putter around on their Chromebooks or phones


There are many schools where it still consists of lectures and lively discussions. My child loved APUSH. The teacher treated them like adults, they spoke freely, had wonderful lectures and were very well prepared for the exam.

They’ve had dud teachers too, but they usually don’t teach AP courses .
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2025 02:11     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
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Anonymous wrote:Only about 8k kids a year get a 1560+ without superscoring. Pretty shocking.

There are, what, 4 million high school grads per year and just under 2 million SAT test takers?



And yet it feels like 7,999 of their parents post on DCUM.


And THEN they’ll say “our circle of friends and neighbors are brilliant with high IQs and it’s genetic”.

I don’t think too many people got tutoring or classes decades ago. One and done and you moved on.

I read an article on athletes and US leaders SAT or ACT scores. Athletes were in the average range of 900 to 1150. There genius is physical and mental not all in books.

Bush Jr got 1206, Bill Clinton 1032, John Kerry 1190. Families with Bush and Kerry were important. Clinton had other talents.


Unless your kid goes to a magnet school for science, math and technology it’s doubtful too many students got over 1500. Regular private school not so many.
Anonymous
Post 11/08/2025 01:44     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
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Anonymous wrote:I had one kid taking the SAT in 2022 (when it was on paper) and one who took the digital year. Lots of kids at their private getting over 1500 both years


I bet if you looked at Naviance, you eould see that very few kids at your private school scored over 1500.

Our high performing high school has between 625-725 seniors on a given year. In all the years we have had kids there, naviance only shows around a dozen kids breaking 1500 on the SAT.

There is zero chance that your private school with a senior class of a couple hundred kids has "lots" of kids scoring over 1500.


What is “lots”? Our public school in NJ has about 80 in a class of 375.


Anecdotal bullshit


I believe it. NJ schools are built better. DP.

Compare college admissions for random public schools in NJ vs. "top" DC area schools.


Nice try, but more bullshit. Colleges acceptance lists mean nothing without disclosing legacy, athletic recruits, donors, URM, first gen



NJ also has the highest cutoff for NM commended, along with MA and DC.

a bunch of HS in NJ have an average SAT score higher than McLean's (1308).
https://nj1015.com/sat-scores-nj/

my kid is bright but no genius and got a 1500.



Only 1500? If NJ was good an average kid could score 1600.


My kid is not in NJ. If they were, it’d probably be higher.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2025 23:43     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
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Anonymous wrote:It's. So. Hard.

My kid has taken it 4 times but can't get out of the slums despite her best efforts. She has a 4.0 average and 8 APs btw.


Why on earth would you keep taking it? Plenty of test optional choices and plenty of great options for every score range.


Parents of DCUM have lost the plot a long time ago. This type of personality is why so many people end up becoming doctors despite being complete idiots.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2025 23:41     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
Anonymous wrote:Not sure take act instead our dc averaged mid 1400 on Sat. However act. Scored 36. So it depends on test taking skills and match.

This is what our tutor just suggested.

If College Board keeps this up, our student won't be alone in considering this switch.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2025 23:38     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
Act generally is easier especially reading vs sat English. But if you can pull a better score that’s all that matters.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2025 23:35     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
Not sure take act instead our dc averaged mid 1400 on Sat. However act. Scored 36. So it depends on test taking skills and match.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2025 21:54     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
Anonymous wrote:It's. So. Hard.

My kid has taken it 4 times but can't get out of the slums despite her best efforts. She has a 4.0 average and 8 APs btw.


Why on earth would you keep taking it? Plenty of test optional choices and plenty of great options for every score range.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2025 21:46     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
It's. So. Hard.

My kid has taken it 4 times but can't get out of the slums despite her best efforts. She has a 4.0 average and 8 APs btw.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2025 21:42     Subject: Is it suddenly harder to get high score in SAT or were people always lying?
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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand this. 1510 and every score above that is a 99th percentile score. Does that mean exactly one percent of students get 1510+ scores?




1510 is in the 98th percentile as derived from the past 3 years of actual student test-takers.[/quote

Ok. So that's 2/100 kids. The OP is either totally misunderstanding the distribution of scores, or is trying to say something else that she isn't articulating.