Anonymous wrote:Jeff is consolidating the Republic Nazi threads.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1297178.page

Congressional Republicans say that the American Swastika flags they received were hate mail sent by opponents (I believe that), and thay (and I am not making this up) the recipients couldn't visually distinguish an American Flag from a Nazi Swastika (I believe that too!)

They claimed that the swastika was created with magic dye only visible to cameras... and other viewers (like Democrats) that can sense objective reality.





https://www.foxnews.com/politics/optical-illusion-swastika-flags-distributed-multiple-congressional-offices-prompt-investigation-sources

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Anonymous wrote:Also turns out that it wasn't just one GOP member of Congress who had the swastika flags in their offices -

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/multiple-gop-congressional-offices-received-flags-optical-illusion-swa-rcna238059

Which by the way aren't much of a so-called "optical illusion" - this is the actual flag. No illusion here:

Anonymous wrote:Also turns out that it wasn't just one GOP member of Congress who had the swastika flags in their offices -

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/multiple-gop-congressional-offices-received-flags-optical-illusion-swa-rcna238059

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m a deeply disillusioned lifelong Democrat who basically despises the entire Democratic party now, but cannot stomach voting Republican. It’s stuff like this that is why. It’s just too endemic in the Republican party.

Same, very frustrated with Democrats, but I cannot stomach how the Republican party overlooks this stuff with "whataboutism." As a woman, also cannot stomach how they embrace Christian nationalists like Hesgeth or Kirk who use the bible as an excuse for viewing women as subservient.

PP here. I agree, though truthfully I don’t think that the Democrats are better as far as viewing women as subservient. They just use different language.

But these texts are consistent with the whataboutism language of Republicans (they just dismiss it) and it’s revolting. The lack of concern is horrible.

2 of the last three nominees for president were women.
Pro-choice so women can manage their own bodies
Pro child care, so women who want to, can partake in the work place
Pro-equal pay, so women and men earn the same salary for the same work

I could go on, but really not sure how you get to the bolded.

This is off topic for this thread, and you can start a different thread if you are truly interested, but one of the absolutely most distasteful aspects of the modern Democratic Party is that the narrow world view they prescribe and hold is so dogmatic and quasi-religious in nature that they cannot conceive of disagreement. I am an extremely reluctant Democrat voter who believes that Democrats are as much male supremacists as the Republicans. And I am not the only one.

But getting back on track, I can’t vote for Republicans so long as this nonsense is a key part of their party, and it is. It is a bridge too far. So of the awful choices, it is the Democrats at this point.

There is plenty of disagreement. Policy disagreement should be debated and compromised on. However, suggesting it is ok for racism and the other isms are not a policy disagreement. That is where the sidewalk ends.

Had this convo with our then teen son who was arguing with me about Dems. I said, “it’s one thing to argue about foreign affairs, tax policy, etc, but when one party tells me that blacks, Jews, Latinos, women are the enemy, then I don’t care about one’s position on interhemispheric affairs or changing the tax rates, I will not vote for a single one.”

Good distinction!

Perhaps, but absolutely demonstrates the issues the Democrats face: the teen son sees Democrats as the monolithic establishment that ruthlessly suppresses dissent, while his more liberal and wealthy mom disagrees. That’s a recipe for electoral disaster.

My teen sons think Trump is a loser and a moron. Don’t count your electoral chickens just yet.

The teen sons of DCUM posters are not likely to be statistically relevant in any election.

LOL...ok

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m a deeply disillusioned lifelong Democrat who basically despises the entire Democratic party now, but cannot stomach voting Republican. It’s stuff like this that is why. It’s just too endemic in the Republican party.

Same, very frustrated with Democrats, but I cannot stomach how the Republican party overlooks this stuff with "whataboutism." As a woman, also cannot stomach how they embrace Christian nationalists like Hesgeth or Kirk who use the bible as an excuse for viewing women as subservient.

PP here. I agree, though truthfully I don’t think that the Democrats are better as far as viewing women as subservient. They just use different language.

But these texts are consistent with the whataboutism language of Republicans (they just dismiss it) and it’s revolting. The lack of concern is horrible.

2 of the last three nominees for president were women.
Pro-choice so women can manage their own bodies
Pro child care, so women who want to, can partake in the work place
Pro-equal pay, so women and men earn the same salary for the same work

I could go on, but really not sure how you get to the bolded.

This is off topic for this thread, and you can start a different thread if you are truly interested, but one of the absolutely most distasteful aspects of the modern Democratic Party is that the narrow world view they prescribe and hold is so dogmatic and quasi-religious in nature that they cannot conceive of disagreement. I am an extremely reluctant Democrat voter who believes that Democrats are as much male supremacists as the Republicans. And I am not the only one.

But getting back on track, I can’t vote for Republicans so long as this nonsense is a key part of their party, and it is. It is a bridge too far. So of the awful choices, it is the Democrats at this point.

There is plenty of disagreement. Policy disagreement should be debated and compromised on. However, suggesting it is ok for racism and the other isms are not a policy disagreement. That is where the sidewalk ends.

Had this convo with our then teen son who was arguing with me about Dems. I said, “it’s one thing to argue about foreign affairs, tax policy, etc, but when one party tells me that blacks, Jews, Latinos, women are the enemy, then I don’t care about one’s position on interhemispheric affairs or changing the tax rates, I will not vote for a single one.”

Good distinction!

Perhaps, but absolutely demonstrates the issues the Democrats face: the teen son sees Democrats as the monolithic establishment that ruthlessly suppresses dissent, while his more liberal and wealthy mom disagrees. That’s a recipe for electoral disaster.

My teen sons think Trump is a loser and a moron. Don’t count your electoral chickens just yet.

The teen sons of DCUM posters are not likely to be statistically relevant in any election.

Anonymous wrote:Wonder what Usha Vance thinks about this.

Trump Considers Overhaul of Refugee System That Would Favor White People
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/15/us/politics/trump-refugee-white-people.html
The proposals would transform a program aimed at helping the most vulnerable people in the world into one that gives preference to mostly white people who say they are being persecuted.

he Trump administration is considering a radical overhaul of the U.S. refugee system that would slash the program to its bare bones while giving preference to English speakers, white South Africans and Europeans who oppose migration, according to documents obtained by The New York Times.

The proposals, some of which already have gone into effect, would transform a decades-old program aimed at helping the world’s most desperate people into one that conforms to Mr. Trump’s vision of immigration — which is to help mostly white people who say they are being persecuted while keeping the vast majority of other people out.

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Anonymous wrote:NP. I’m a deeply disillusioned lifelong Democrat who basically despises the entire Democratic party now, but cannot stomach voting Republican. It’s stuff like this that is why. It’s just too endemic in the Republican party.

Same, very frustrated with Democrats, but I cannot stomach how the Republican party overlooks this stuff with "whataboutism." As a woman, also cannot stomach how they embrace Christian nationalists like Hesgeth or Kirk who use the bible as an excuse for viewing women as subservient.

PP here. I agree, though truthfully I don’t think that the Democrats are better as far as viewing women as subservient. They just use different language.

But these texts are consistent with the whataboutism language of Republicans (they just dismiss it) and it’s revolting. The lack of concern is horrible.