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Anonymous wrote:I’m third gen Indian. Grandfather immigrated here during the late 1950s on a student visa. In those days, Indian workers were prized and highly sought after by US employers for their incredible work ethic, professionalism, skills, etc. He had planned to return to India after his education however a major corp made a lucrative offer (and he received his green card within months after joining) he could not refuse it. Many of his college buddies did the same, but not all of them. Most all of the Indians who emigrated here prior to the 1980s were extremely talented and hard working. I recall most all being scientists, engineers or medical docs. It’s sad to see the Indian worker, and particularly h1b worker so vilified these days.

The vilification has happened due to racism and general inability of America and Americans to compete with the rest of the world, in hard STEM fields that requires intelligence and hard work.

The poor standard of K-12 education and general inability of parents to teach their kids at home means that many cannot compete in these subjects.

The vilification is due to resentment and jealously.

I am a descendant of immigrants, but my spouse and I were born in the United States. Both our parents married US spouses, and thats how they got citizenship. We both work in big tech and medical fields and do feel that it's been overrun by H1Bs, both doctors and IT workers. This was acceptable when unemployment was low, but it's not the time for them now, as college graduates are competing with their low wages and are facing unemployment. Therefore, we don't see a shortage and agree to shut off H1Bs for the next few years.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went to Georgia Tech there was a kid in my calculus III who was from an African country called Togo that I never heard off. I got to be friend with with very nice guy.

What shocked me was how prepared he was for college..this kid from a poor African country I never heard off had already taken the first 2 year core courses in calculus and physics while in HS. I went to a Top HS here in the US and only a handful of us actually took advanced calculus in HS....He ended up working for AT&T and then Goldman Sacks.

I think a lot us in this country underestimate how well prepared a lot of international students are.

No, no. No one is underestimating how advanced the rest of the world is in academic standards and influence now as compared to US. This whole country needs to be delulu otherwise they will have to face the shame that they have messed up their own future and their own country.

Accepting that the world is doing better than US means that Americans have to accept that they screwed themselves. Every policy is a policy of greed and bumbling half baked uneducated hateful racist and christian right wing fanaticism. And now MAGA. Americans know that they have voted for their own downfall. They need to be drinking the delulu koolaid or they will have to slit their wrists.

You sound extremely biased.

What measures are you using to determine that we’ve had our downfall and the rest of the world is more advanced?

Because it’s not by innovation, GDP, technologies, financial markets, unemployment rate etc… what are you using to determine your conclusion?

While it seems unfair, education alone doesn’t result in a strong and successful economy. Just look at the USSR. The Soviet Union had some very educated students and likely did better than Americans in math and science. But name me a successful Russian company that was known around the world. A more recent example is Finland. Highly educated populace and highly regarded educational system. Except a high unemployment rate and all sorts of economic woes.

Just because you want America to fail because of the current administration, doesn’t mean it will.

H1B1s are a major problem and thank goodness someone is doing something about it. Shame on you for thinking it’s okay for corporations to underpay workers at the expense of American jobs. How did we get to this point?

You have lost the plot moron.
Trump is 100% crashing everything that is the point. He wants the $ to crash. Property to go to foreclosures.

Dictators love their subjects poor and sick. Project 2025 outlines all of this it is 50% implemented we will never vote again. Women will lose every right they ever had and you fools will still lick Trump's crap off his shoes.

LOL

"Dictators, Nazis, facists..." if you disagree with their policies

Take off the tin foil hat.

You are just like the MAGA folks who believe everything Trump says, but just in the opposite direction.

Try again. Trump and sycophants wrote it all down, Project 2025, which you have not read moron.

Keep the tin foil hat... It must be driving you CRAZY!

LOL I am just enjoying the show as people like you go crazy!!

MAGA getting hurt is actually so funny!!

Anonymous wrote:I’m third gen Indian. Grandfather immigrated here during the late 1950s on a student visa. In those days, Indian workers were prized and highly sought after by US employers for their incredible work ethic, professionalism, skills, etc. He had planned to return to India after his education however a major corp made a lucrative offer (and he received his green card within months after joining) he could not refuse it. Many of his college buddies did the same, but not all of them. Most all of the Indians who emigrated here prior to the 1980s were extremely talented and hard working. I recall most all being scientists, engineers or medical docs. It’s sad to see the Indian worker, and particularly h1b worker so vilified these days.

The vilification has happened due to racism and general inability of America and Americans to compete with the rest of the world, in hard STEM fields that requires intelligence and hard work.

The poor standard of K-12 education and general inability of parents to teach their kids at home means that many cannot compete in these subjects.

The vilification is due to resentment and jealously.

I’m third gen Indian. Grandfather immigrated here during the late 1950s on a student visa. In those days, Indian workers were prized and highly sought after by US employers for their incredible work ethic, professionalism, skills, etc. He had planned to return to India after his education however a major corp made a lucrative offer (and he received his green card within months after joining) he could not refuse it. Many of his college buddies did the same, but not all of them. Most all of the Indians who emigrated here prior to the 1980s were extremely talented and hard working. I recall most all being scientists, engineers or medical docs. It’s sad to see the Indian worker, and particularly h1b worker so vilified these days.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went to Georgia Tech there was a kid in my calculus III who was from an African country called Togo that I never heard off. I got to be friend with with very nice guy.

What shocked me was how prepared he was for college..this kid from a poor African country I never heard off had already taken the first 2 year core courses in calculus and physics while in HS. I went to a Top HS here in the US and only a handful of us actually took advanced calculus in HS....He ended up working for AT&T and then Goldman Sacks.

I think a lot us in this country underestimate how well prepared a lot of international students are.

No, no. No one is underestimating how advanced the rest of the world is in academic standards and influence now as compared to US. This whole country needs to be delulu otherwise they will have to face the shame that they have messed up their own future and their own country.

Accepting that the world is doing better than US means that Americans have to accept that they screwed themselves. Every policy is a policy of greed and bumbling half baked uneducated hateful racist and christian right wing fanaticism. And now MAGA. Americans know that they have voted for their own downfall. They need to be drinking the delulu koolaid or they will have to slit their wrists.

You sound extremely biased.

What measures are you using to determine that we’ve had our downfall and the rest of the world is more advanced?

Because it’s not by innovation, GDP, technologies, financial markets, unemployment rate etc… what are you using to determine your conclusion?

While it seems unfair, education alone doesn’t result in a strong and successful economy. Just look at the USSR. The Soviet Union had some very educated students and likely did better than Americans in math and science. But name me a successful Russian company that was known around the world. A more recent example is Finland. Highly educated populace and highly regarded educational system. Except a high unemployment rate and all sorts of economic woes.

Just because you want America to fail because of the current administration, doesn’t mean it will.

H1B1s are a major problem and thank goodness someone is doing something about it. Shame on you for thinking it’s okay for corporations to underpay workers at the expense of American jobs. How did we get to this point?

You have lost the plot moron.
Trump is 100% crashing everything that is the point. He wants the $ to crash. Property to go to foreclosures.

Dictators love their subjects poor and sick. Project 2025 outlines all of this it is 50% implemented we will never vote again. Women will lose every right they ever had and you fools will still lick Trump's crap off his shoes.

LOL

"Dictators, Nazis, facists..." if you disagree with their policies

Take off the tin foil hat.

You are just like the MAGA folks who believe everything Trump says, but just in the opposite direction.

Try again. Trump and sycophants wrote it all down, Project 2025, which you have not read moron.

Keep the tin foil hat... It must be driving you CRAZY!

LOL I am just enjoying the show as people like you go crazy!!

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Anonymous wrote:When I went to Georgia Tech there was a kid in my calculus III who was from an African country called Togo that I never heard off. I got to be friend with with very nice guy.

What shocked me was how prepared he was for college..this kid from a poor African country I never heard off had already taken the first 2 year core courses in calculus and physics while in HS. I went to a Top HS here in the US and only a handful of us actually took advanced calculus in HS....He ended up working for AT&T and then Goldman Sacks.

I think a lot us in this country underestimate how well prepared a lot of international students are.

No, no. No one is underestimating how advanced the rest of the world is in academic standards and influence now as compared to US. This whole country needs to be delulu otherwise they will have to face the shame that they have messed up their own future and their own country.

Accepting that the world is doing better than US means that Americans have to accept that they screwed themselves. Every policy is a policy of greed and bumbling half baked uneducated hateful racist and christian right wing fanaticism. And now MAGA. Americans know that they have voted for their own downfall. They need to be drinking the delulu koolaid or they will have to slit their wrists.

You sound extremely biased.

What measures are you using to determine that we’ve had our downfall and the rest of the world is more advanced?

Because it’s not by innovation, GDP, technologies, financial markets, unemployment rate etc… what are you using to determine your conclusion?

While it seems unfair, education alone doesn’t result in a strong and successful economy. Just look at the USSR. The Soviet Union had some very educated students and likely did better than Americans in math and science. But name me a successful Russian company that was known around the world. A more recent example is Finland. Highly educated populace and highly regarded educational system. Except a high unemployment rate and all sorts of economic woes.

Just because you want America to fail because of the current administration, doesn’t mean it will.

H1B1s are a major problem and thank goodness someone is doing something about it. Shame on you for thinking it’s okay for corporations to underpay workers at the expense of American jobs. How did we get to this point?

You have lost the plot moron.
Trump is 100% crashing everything that is the point. He wants the $ to crash. Property to go to foreclosures.

Dictators love their subjects poor and sick. Project 2025 outlines all of this it is 50% implemented we will never vote again. Women will lose every right they ever had and you fools will still lick Trump's crap off his shoes.

LOL

"Dictators, Nazis, facists..." if you disagree with their policies

Take off the tin foil hat.

You are just like the MAGA folks who believe everything Trump says, but just in the opposite direction.

Try again. Trump and sycophants wrote it all down, Project 2025, which you have not read moron.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went to Georgia Tech there was a kid in my calculus III who was from an African country called Togo that I never heard off. I got to be friend with with very nice guy.

What shocked me was how prepared he was for college..this kid from a poor African country I never heard off had already taken the first 2 year core courses in calculus and physics while in HS. I went to a Top HS here in the US and only a handful of us actually took advanced calculus in HS....He ended up working for AT&T and then Goldman Sacks.

I think a lot us in this country underestimate how well prepared a lot of international students are.

No, no. No one is underestimating how advanced the rest of the world is in academic standards and influence now as compared to US. This whole country needs to be delulu otherwise they will have to face the shame that they have messed up their own future and their own country.

Accepting that the world is doing better than US means that Americans have to accept that they screwed themselves. Every policy is a policy of greed and bumbling half baked uneducated hateful racist and christian right wing fanaticism. And now MAGA. Americans know that they have voted for their own downfall. They need to be drinking the delulu koolaid or they will have to slit their wrists.

You sound extremely biased.

What measures are you using to determine that we’ve had our downfall and the rest of the world is more advanced?

Because it’s not by innovation, GDP, technologies, financial markets, unemployment rate etc… what are you using to determine your conclusion?

While it seems unfair, education alone doesn’t result in a strong and successful economy. Just look at the USSR. The Soviet Union had some very educated students and likely did better than Americans in math and science. But name me a successful Russian company that was known around the world. A more recent example is Finland. Highly educated populace and highly regarded educational system. Except a high unemployment rate and all sorts of economic woes.

Just because you want America to fail because of the current administration, doesn’t mean it will.

H1B1s are a major problem and thank goodness someone is doing something about it. Shame on you for thinking it’s okay for corporations to underpay workers at the expense of American jobs. How did we get to this point?

You have lost the plot moron.
Trump is 100% crashing everything that is the point. He wants the $ to crash. Property to go to foreclosures.

Dictators love their subjects poor and sick. Project 2025 outlines all of this it is 50% implemented we will never vote again. Women will lose every right they ever had and you fools will still lick Trump's crap off his shoes.

Oh no, it's the Project 2025 poster again. She's already tried to gum up the College threads with her nonsense and is now going after Jobs and Careers. Lady, isn't it enough that Jeff had to delete your psycho posts from a thread (that you started to create chaos!) about the Royals? For all of our sakes, get a life.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went to Georgia Tech there was a kid in my calculus III who was from an African country called Togo that I never heard off. I got to be friend with with very nice guy.

What shocked me was how prepared he was for college..this kid from a poor African country I never heard off had already taken the first 2 year core courses in calculus and physics while in HS. I went to a Top HS here in the US and only a handful of us actually took advanced calculus in HS....He ended up working for AT&T and then Goldman Sacks.

I think a lot us in this country underestimate how well prepared a lot of international students are.

No, no. No one is underestimating how advanced the rest of the world is in academic standards and influence now as compared to US. This whole country needs to be delulu otherwise they will have to face the shame that they have messed up their own future and their own country.

Accepting that the world is doing better than US means that Americans have to accept that they screwed themselves. Every policy is a policy of greed and bumbling half baked uneducated hateful racist and christian right wing fanaticism. And now MAGA. Americans know that they have voted for their own downfall. They need to be drinking the delulu koolaid or they will have to slit their wrists.

You sound extremely biased.

What measures are you using to determine that we’ve had our downfall and the rest of the world is more advanced?

Because it’s not by innovation, GDP, technologies, financial markets, unemployment rate etc… what are you using to determine your conclusion?

While it seems unfair, education alone doesn’t result in a strong and successful economy. Just look at the USSR. The Soviet Union had some very educated students and likely did better than Americans in math and science. But name me a successful Russian company that was known around the world. A more recent example is Finland. Highly educated populace and highly regarded educational system. Except a high unemployment rate and all sorts of economic woes.

Just because you want America to fail because of the current administration, doesn’t mean it will.

H1B1s are a major problem and thank goodness someone is doing something about it. Shame on you for thinking it’s okay for corporations to underpay workers at the expense of American jobs. How did we get to this point?

You have lost the plot moron.
Trump is 100% crashing everything that is the point. He wants the $ to crash. Property to go to foreclosures.

Dictators love their subjects poor and sick. Project 2025 outlines all of this it is 50% implemented we will never vote again. Women will lose every right they ever had and you fools will still lick Trump's crap off his shoes.

LOL

"Dictators, Nazis, facists..." if you disagree with their policies

Take off the tin foil hat.

You are just like the MAGA folks who believe everything Trump says, but just in the opposite direction.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I went to Georgia Tech there was a kid in my calculus III who was from an African country called Togo that I never heard off. I got to be friend with with very nice guy.

What shocked me was how prepared he was for college..this kid from a poor African country I never heard off had already taken the first 2 year core courses in calculus and physics while in HS. I went to a Top HS here in the US and only a handful of us actually took advanced calculus in HS....He ended up working for AT&T and then Goldman Sacks.

I think a lot us in this country underestimate how well prepared a lot of international students are.

No, no. No one is underestimating how advanced the rest of the world is in academic standards and influence now as compared to US. This whole country needs to be delulu otherwise they will have to face the shame that they have messed up their own future and their own country.

Accepting that the world is doing better than US means that Americans have to accept that they screwed themselves. Every policy is a policy of greed and bumbling half baked uneducated hateful racist and christian right wing fanaticism. And now MAGA. Americans know that they have voted for their own downfall. They need to be drinking the delulu koolaid or they will have to slit their wrists.

You sound extremely biased.

What measures are you using to determine that we’ve had our downfall and the rest of the world is more advanced?

Because it’s not by innovation, GDP, technologies, financial markets, unemployment rate etc… what are you using to determine your conclusion?

While it seems unfair, education alone doesn’t result in a strong and successful economy. Just look at the USSR. The Soviet Union had some very educated students and likely did better than Americans in math and science. But name me a successful Russian company that was known around the world. A more recent example is Finland. Highly educated populace and highly regarded educational system. Except a high unemployment rate and all sorts of economic woes.

Just because you want America to fail because of the current administration, doesn’t mean it will.

H1B1s are a major problem and thank goodness someone is doing something about it. Shame on you for thinking it’s okay for corporations to underpay workers at the expense of American jobs. How did we get to this point?

You have lost the plot moron.
Trump is 100% crashing everything that is the point. He wants the $ to crash. Property to go to foreclosures.

Dictators love their subjects poor and sick. Project 2025 outlines all of this it is 50% implemented we will never vote again. Women will lose every right they ever had and you fools will still lick Trump's crap off his shoes.

Very strange response.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went to Georgia Tech there was a kid in my calculus III who was from an African country called Togo that I never heard off. I got to be friend with with very nice guy.

What shocked me was how prepared he was for college..this kid from a poor African country I never heard off had already taken the first 2 year core courses in calculus and physics while in HS. I went to a Top HS here in the US and only a handful of us actually took advanced calculus in HS....He ended up working for AT&T and then Goldman Sacks.

I think a lot us in this country underestimate how well prepared a lot of international students are.

No, no. No one is underestimating how advanced the rest of the world is in academic standards and influence now as compared to US. This whole country needs to be delulu otherwise they will have to face the shame that they have messed up their own future and their own country.

Accepting that the world is doing better than US means that Americans have to accept that they screwed themselves. Every policy is a policy of greed and bumbling half baked uneducated hateful racist and christian right wing fanaticism. And now MAGA. Americans know that they have voted for their own downfall. They need to be drinking the delulu koolaid or they will have to slit their wrists.

You sound extremely biased.

What measures are you using to determine that we’ve had our downfall and the rest of the world is more advanced?

Because it’s not by innovation, GDP, technologies, financial markets, unemployment rate etc… what are you using to determine your conclusion?

While it seems unfair, education alone doesn’t result in a strong and successful economy. Just look at the USSR. The Soviet Union had some very educated students and likely did better than Americans in math and science. But name me a successful Russian company that was known around the world. A more recent example is Finland. Highly educated populace and highly regarded educational system. Except a high unemployment rate and all sorts of economic woes.

Just because you want America to fail because of the current administration, doesn’t mean it will.

H1B1s are a major problem and thank goodness someone is doing something about it. Shame on you for thinking it’s okay for corporations to underpay workers at the expense of American jobs. How did we get to this point?

You have lost the plot moron.
Trump is 100% crashing everything that is the point. He wants the $ to crash. Property to go to foreclosures.

Dictators love their subjects poor and sick. Project 2025 outlines all of this it is 50% implemented we will never vote again. Women will lose every right they ever had and you fools will still lick Trump's crap off his shoes.

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Anonymous wrote:When I went to Georgia Tech there was a kid in my calculus III who was from an African country called Togo that I never heard off. I got to be friend with with very nice guy.

What shocked me was how prepared he was for college..this kid from a poor African country I never heard off had already taken the first 2 year core courses in calculus and physics while in HS. I went to a Top HS here in the US and only a handful of us actually took advanced calculus in HS....He ended up working for AT&T and then Goldman Sacks.

I think a lot us in this country underestimate how well prepared a lot of international students are.

No, no. No one is underestimating how advanced the rest of the world is in academic standards and influence now as compared to US. This whole country needs to be delulu otherwise they will have to face the shame that they have messed up their own future and their own country.

Accepting that the world is doing better than US means that Americans have to accept that they screwed themselves. Every policy is a policy of greed and bumbling half baked uneducated hateful racist and christian right wing fanaticism. And now MAGA. Americans know that they have voted for their own downfall. They need to be drinking the delulu koolaid or they will have to slit their wrists.

You sound extremely biased.

What measures are you using to determine that we’ve had our downfall and the rest of the world is more advanced?

Because it’s not by innovation, GDP, technologies, financial markets, unemployment rate etc… what are you using to determine your conclusion?

While it seems unfair, education alone doesn’t result in a strong and successful economy. Just look at the USSR. The Soviet Union had some very educated students and likely did better than Americans in math and science. But name me a successful Russian company that was known around the world. A more recent example is Finland. Highly educated populace and highly regarded educational system. Except a high unemployment rate and all sorts of economic woes.

Just because you want America to fail because of the current administration, doesn’t mean it will.

H1B1s are a major problem and thank goodness someone is doing something about it. Shame on you for thinking it’s okay for corporations to underpay workers at the expense of American jobs. How did we get to this point?

+1. African here who came here for college 20 years ago and did OPT, then H1B and now green card.

I agree with you. I was an average student at best in my country, but when I came here for college I excelled and graduated with a 3.7 GPA. I went to the University of Washington, not an ivy League but a great school nevertheless for CS. Like most African students I was incredibly well prepared in hard sciences physics, chemistry math and biology.

What set the US apart is innovation. The American education system is well rounded..while most of my classmates had never seen a double integration in HS, they were better than me at seeing the big picture and what's important. I personally think the education system in Africa and many other countries is a disaster. We are not thought how to think and solve problems..instead we take a badge of honor at solving some extremely complicated useless problems in math/physics that the teachers can't even solve.

So America you have a great system. But of course you can always improve it and perhaps make it more equitable by providing equal access irrespective of zip codes.

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Anonymous wrote:The job market for recent 2025 US CS graduates is weak due to AI and H1B. Parents in the USA spent 150K to 400K for kid to get a CS degree and kid is back home playing video games in basement at 22 years of age unemployed. That is the issue

Whose kid? What kid? Are these the children of unemployed tech folks in US, who were never at the top of their game and then got laid off several years ago? CS students who have not got job placements out of college are only 4% of all the CS new graduates. Even now, 96% of CS graduates are employed when they leave college. So those without jobs are either the bottom of their CS class, or they were depending on an amazing salary, or they have not applied far and wide enough, or they are not willing to work in smaller cities.

These poor performers are the ones who -
- a) felt the need to spend insane amount of money for a CS degree instead of having their tuition paid at a state school by earning generous merit scholarships.
- b) did not have the chops to learn the CS skills that companies need and fail in all the coding and personality tests/interviews.
- c) did not have tech or research internships in the summer breaks.
- d) are unable to be flexible learners and adapt to tech changes.

My nephew who granted is a weirdo has a Tech degree top school. He is annoying like in a Sheldon way. He got recruited a super major IT company right of of college, relocated and had stipend and big salary. They had him due a bunch of crap to set something up like a tons of hours and since he is a reject he spend all the hours in monk mode doing it for 10 months and then they told him he has 60 days to train his replacement how to do what he set up and gave him good severance or be fired on spot. He is back in Mommy and Daddys basement since July.

His case none of above is applicable. He is just not someone you want to ever work with unless it is a specific task you really need. And when done toss him. I hate to say that is a lot of people in IT

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder how it will impact his businesses? Tech will just have their staff work in other countries as it’s cheaper.

This is obviously what they’ll do. In the long run, it will hurt us by moving the tech industry to other countries. Incredibly short sighted.

There are also a lot of other industries that have lots of H1Bs. There are over 10,000 doctors on H1Bs. 1% of the doctors in the US just went poof. You can’t replace a doctor overnight.

Oh they 100 percent are. My husband is a Parkinson's doctor and he is HB1

The US needs to add more seats in medical schools. Doctors create the shortage to drive prices up.

Bring Opioid back.

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Anonymous wrote:American grads are locked out of careers, while San Jose State University brags about being ranked #1 for international student job and green card outcomes.

OPT tax breaks, tuition profits, and stacked rankings, the system favors foreign workers while U.S. grads are left behind.

Read the full story 👉
https://wnd.com/2025/09/tilted-against-them-design-u-s-college-grads/

My friend”s son got a degree from that school. Unemployed for 2 years.

My kids have graduated from State Universities without student deby, majored in in-demand STEM degrees, done pretigious internships and have made sure that they have the professional credentials and are gainfully employed. A 5% unemployment rate means that 95% of students will get jobs. So only losers will not get jobs here.