Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 09:37     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:for health care

because many jobs have punitive sick leave policies and you can't be sick and work/hold a job

because you can't manage multiple medical appts/treatments and a full time job

because you can't carry an oxygen tank around all day, or you lost a limb, or went blind...

because you jumped though a million hoops so someone could question why you can't just work




[b]Because dialysis takes hours out of your day and is exhausting but you're still not getting disability.[/b]


isn't dialysis/end stage renal disease one of the conditions that qualifies for SSDI?
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 09:34     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
Anonymous wrote:The obesity crisis quickly becomes an SES and parenting issue.


+1. And the stats on SSDI becoming an issue passed from one generation to the next are staggering. It's considered a way of life in some places.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 06:18     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why not get a job and work? There are quadriplegics on ventilators who work. There are people with severe multiple sclerosis who don't demand our tax dollar support them. Why can't you work?


how do you describe “severe multiple sclerosis “?

My grandmother at 50 years old with multiple sclerosis was paralyzed from the neck down. Her voice was weak. Someone had to feed her, dress her, take her to the bathroom. What job do you think might have suited her?

You gave two really stupid examples.


Wow that’s a lot of work and time, so sorry. How long did she live like that or ongoing how long?
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 00:33     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why not get a job and work? There are quadriplegics on ventilators who work. There are people with severe multiple sclerosis who don't demand our tax dollar support them. Why can't you work?


how do you describe “severe multiple sclerosis “?

My grandmother at 50 years old with multiple sclerosis was paralyzed from the neck down. Her voice was weak. Someone had to feed her, dress her, take her to the bathroom. What job do you think might have suited her?

You gave two really stupid examples.


The trolls just want Americans to just go ahead and die already. That seems to be the Republican party line right now.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2025 00:28     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
Anonymous wrote:Why not get a job and work? There are quadriplegics on ventilators who work. There are people with severe multiple sclerosis who don't demand our tax dollar support them. Why can't you work?


how do you describe “severe multiple sclerosis “?

My grandmother at 50 years old with multiple sclerosis was paralyzed from the neck down. Her voice was weak. Someone had to feed her, dress her, take her to the bathroom. What job do you think might have suited her?

You gave two really stupid examples.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2025 23:40     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Public union disability or military disability is easy


What makes you think that? Do you have specific examples? I have heard that it is difficult, but maybe what I heard was wrong.


Have you looked at the data on retired police, firefighters, transpo workers, parks & rec workers and military?

There are also white collar attorneys who follow suspected disability fraud cases and have loads of photos, evidence of no disability and cases.


+1 woot woot!
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2025 23:38     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:for health care

because many jobs have punitive sick leave policies and you can't be sick and work/hold a job

because you can't manage multiple medical appts/treatments and a full time job

because you can't carry an oxygen tank around all day, or you lost a limb, or went blind...

because you jumped though a million hoops so someone could question why you can't just work




Because dialysis takes hours out of your day and is exhausting but you're still not getting disability.



Republicans’ answer to folks in this situation is suicide. They just want them to die.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2025 23:36     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a physical therapist. I’ve heard many patients, typically of the same union group, advising each other on how to manage the system for a better payout.
There are many who will ask me to dictate certain words in their patient record. They find this information from their lawyer.

On the flipside, I know people with severe injuries and illnesses, including chronic pain, patients, who do anything to get back to a more productive lifestyle.


This is why socialism doesn't work. It's totally ignorant of human nature


Nobody is advocating for socialism. But there has to be programs that support people in real need. The issue are people who scam the system or comply with patients’ requests to scam the system.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2025 21:23     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
Anonymous wrote:for health care

because many jobs have punitive sick leave policies and you can't be sick and work/hold a job

because you can't manage multiple medical appts/treatments and a full time job

because you can't carry an oxygen tank around all day, or you lost a limb, or went blind...

because you jumped though a million hoops so someone could question why you can't just work




Because dialysis takes hours out of your day and is exhausting but you're still not getting disability.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2025 20:50     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am a physical therapist. I’ve heard many patients, typically of the same union group, advising each other on how to manage the system for a better payout.
There are many who will ask me to dictate certain words in their patient record. They find this information from their lawyer.

On the flipside, I know people with severe injuries and illnesses, including chronic pain, patients, who do anything to get back to a more productive lifestyle.


This is why socialism doesn't work. It's totally ignorant of human nature


This is also why capitalism fails - because it also ignores human nature.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2025 20:45     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
for health care

because many jobs have punitive sick leave policies and you can't be sick and work/hold a job

because you can't manage multiple medical appts/treatments and a full time job

because you can't carry an oxygen tank around all day, or you lost a limb, or went blind...

because you jumped though a million hoops so someone could question why you can't just work


Anonymous
Post 07/01/2025 20:01     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why not get a job and work? There are quadriplegics on ventilators who work. There are people with severe multiple sclerosis who don't demand our tax dollar support them. Why can't you work?


Some people make a sport out of gaming the system for payouts. Some doctors do too.


Getting SSD is hard, and takes many years in almost all instances. The only patient I knew in the past few years who got disability with one years time was recently blinded with severe neuropathy in fingers so could not read braille. The others who applied were denied or waiting and in 3rd year of waiting. I knew of two who faced clawbacks after they worked a few too many hours.


My mom was approved almost instantly. I think it took less than two months and they were willing to back date it to her terminal cancer diagnosis date. But there is still a 6 month waiting period so she never collected.

So there’s that.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2025 18:24     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
Anonymous wrote:I am a physical therapist. I’ve heard many patients, typically of the same union group, advising each other on how to manage the system for a better payout.
There are many who will ask me to dictate certain words in their patient record. They find this information from their lawyer.

On the flipside, I know people with severe injuries and illnesses, including chronic pain, patients, who do anything to get back to a more productive lifestyle.


You're suggesting blue collar jobs do not come with injuries and pain? My family was / is blue collar (e.g., welders, laborers, railroad grunts, electricians) and they all have job-related injuries, to a one.

Furthermore, there is waste/fraud in most (if not every system) but that is insufficient justification to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2025 18:19     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
Anonymous wrote:I am a physical therapist. I’ve heard many patients, typically of the same union group, advising each other on how to manage the system for a better payout.
There are many who will ask me to dictate certain words in their patient record. They find this information from their lawyer.

On the flipside, I know people with severe injuries and illnesses, including chronic pain, patients, who do anything to get back to a more productive lifestyle.


This is why socialism doesn't work. It's totally ignorant of human nature
Anonymous
Post 07/01/2025 18:16     Subject: Why are so many Americans on disability?
I am a physical therapist. I’ve heard many patients, typically of the same union group, advising each other on how to manage the system for a better payout.
There are many who will ask me to dictate certain words in their patient record. They find this information from their lawyer.

On the flipside, I know people with severe injuries and illnesses, including chronic pain, patients, who do anything to get back to a more productive lifestyle.