Anonymous
05/10/2025 09:36
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are getting 6% instead of 7%…and some positions (AARTs and elementary special ed. dept. chairs) will go from full time at a school to part time or split between two schools, and the hope is that there are enough jobs any positions to absorb them. It feels really unjust.
Are the special ed chairs and AARTs expected to do the same amount of work in their part-time schedule? I don't really understand. We have a special ed school and one AART and they are certainly working a full time job and probably still barely keeping up. Who does the work they are leaving behind if they are working part time hours?
I don't know about the AART position. The Special Ed chairs are and it's ridiculous. That position is a ton of work already. The expectation seems to be that the Special Ed teachers will just absorb more of the work. As a Special Ed teacher and union member, I am very disappointed. I'll probably drop my membership and just get a personal liability policy in the Fall.
Anonymous
05/10/2025 09:00
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Dropping the union. It’s not worth it. The only thing they did was bargain for a raise we are not getting. Meanwhile I provide supplies for students and kill myself with overtime. They haven’t advocated for smaller special education caseloads. They haven’t advocated for extra planning for special education teachers. They haven’t advocated for safety. I’m tired of throwing away my money. Get the people who run the firefighters and police unions to represent the teachers.
Reid…I can’t see how she’s made anything better. Discipline is still a joke and teachers’ professional opinions are not respected. Meanwhile FCPS is blowing money on boundaries, Hayfield and middle school start times. I will not be retiring with FCPS.
I just skimmed the CBA.
The contract does stipulate that special education teachers will receive the extended day contract pay. I know it isn’t a raise, but they will continue on that scale.
Planning time seems to be more specific than current policy (especially about CT mtgs) at least at the ES level.
I see the stipend for ES team leads will match that of MS and HS department chairs. I wonder if ES’s without team leads will have to designate them.
It looks like healthcare cost sharing arrangements are locked in.
Personal leave use went from 5 to 6 days.
I think 3 days of bereavement leave that is not deducted from accrued leave is a new benefit of the contract.
I believe the requirement for just cause disciplinary action for all is also new per the contract. Didn’t that used to just apply after a certain number of years employed? The grievance procedures seem to be very specific, but I don’t know how they compare to current policy.
Why are fire and police getting 10%? Because they are men in Fairfax County.
Anonymous
05/10/2025 08:12
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
Somehow things will need to be structured differently, because that work will still exist. Also what no one is talking about is the impact of no longer having the monitor positions. There are a lot of things they do that make things more manageable for teachers. Ultimately, although a raise is happening, everyone’s jobs are going to be harder.
Anonymous
05/10/2025 08:05
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are getting 6% instead of 7%…and some positions (AARTs and elementary special ed. dept. chairs) will go from full time at a school to part time or split between two schools, and the hope is that there are enough jobs any positions to absorb them. It feels really unjust.
Are the special ed chairs and AARTs expected to do the same amount of work in their part-time schedule? I don't really understand. We have a special ed school and one AART and they are certainly working a full time job and probably still barely keeping up. Who does the work they are leaving behind if they are working part time hours?
For AART, some responsibilities will go away or shift, not sure about SPED chairs.
Anonymous
05/10/2025 07:31
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
Anonymous wrote:They are getting 6% instead of 7%…and some positions (AARTs and elementary special ed. dept. chairs) will go from full time at a school to part time or split between two schools, and the hope is that there are enough jobs any positions to absorb them. It feels really unjust.
Are the special ed chairs and AARTs expected to do the same amount of work in their part-time schedule? I don't really understand. We have a special ed school and one AART and they are certainly working a full time job and probably still barely keeping up. Who does the work they are leaving behind if they are working part time hours?
Anonymous
05/09/2025 19:08
Subject: Re:what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1920642590367429074.html?fbclid=IwY2xjawKK0HxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFCMmNRZ0RxdUI5QVVVS0o0AR6swCqb4FUZx0jQeZxjq2o6PwJtst9stZsBfRxfNSQRp2NuxDXyoHxepxSirw_aem_wl47pUV6g8oXU-lSpWrHoA
Here is a decent, though somewhat politicized, discussion, of the budget meeting. It includes slides with details on staffing cuts.
As both a teacher and parent, this makes me sick to my stomach.
I’d rather they reduce coaching positions than any of the following:
*Special eduction leads
*AART
*Classroom monitors
I think all teachers would second this. Most coaches do little besides make more work for other teachers.
If that’s true then this is more evidence that the union sucks. They agreed to all these cuts and raising gatehouse salaries by 5%!
Anonymous
05/09/2025 19:01
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They are getting 6% instead of 7%…and some positions (AARTs and elementary special ed. dept. chairs) will go from full time at a school to part time or split between two schools, and the hope is that there are enough jobs any positions to absorb them. It feels really unjust.
What feels unjust? They had to make compromises to match the reality we're facing.
And, yet the SB voted to hire more SB staff at @$100k (times 12 SB members).
Guess the schools have to compromise, but not Gatehouse with Reid making around $500K. And, all her lackeys making $200K plus.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 18:58
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
Anonymous wrote:They are getting 6% instead of 7%…and some positions (AARTs and elementary special ed. dept. chairs) will go from full time at a school to part time or split between two schools, and the hope is that there are enough jobs any positions to absorb them. It feels really unjust.
What feels unjust? They had to make compromises to match the reality we're facing.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 18:53
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
They are getting 6% instead of 7%…and some positions (AARTs and elementary special ed. dept. chairs) will go from full time at a school to part time or split between two schools, and the hope is that there are enough jobs any positions to absorb them. It feels really unjust.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 17:34
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
So are they getting the raises or not?
Anonymous
05/09/2025 17:22
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
Anonymous wrote:Pay raises being funded on the backs of elementary schools. Nasty. They are all losing advanced academics, special ed, and monitor staff, and will have larger class sizes
What did you think was gonna happen? Should have spoken up months ago if you cared about education. They've been outdoing state requirements for years and everyone's just banked on getting everything on backs of teachers continually sacrificing raises to make it happen.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 16:46
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
Anonymous wrote:The 6% raise is pretty good considering all the fed cuts and layoffs.
I don’t think you can compare apples to apples here. Far too many variables at play.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 15:40
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
The 6% raise is pretty good considering all the fed cuts and layoffs.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 13:45
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like a 6% raise but staffing cuts
and increase in classroom sizes
decrease in planning time
increase in other areas of responsibility
basically, if you are saved to work, you will be reid's minions
How are they reducing planning time? The bargaining agreement provides elementary teachers with a minimum of 300 minutes of planning time with at least 240 unencumbered. It states that there can be no more than 60 minutes of mandatory collaborative time and the planning will be provided in increments no less than 30 minutes during the instructional day.
That’s in the contract and it’s not like the pay raise that was dependent upon another factor such as funding.
That comes down to about 45 minutes per day. Not sure how anyone can plan for almost 7 hours of instruction in 45 minutes, especially when it's usually during specials and includes the time it takes to walk all the kids down to specials and then pick them up and walk them back.
The PP cited a “reduction” in planning time. This is not a reduction. It’s what is in the negotiated contact. I’m not debating whether it is enough.
Also not reduction- See other thread on 1/2 days at least for ES there will be lots more planning time added to next year as FCPS uses the benchmark 1/2 days to turn them into permanent 1/2 days and now on Wednesdays starting next fall.
Very easy: 15 minutes before school starts and thirty minutes after.
I realize it is not during the school day, but it is just not practical in the elementary school. Teachers do get a duty free lunch--which many of you may not realize --was not given a few decades ago.
Anonymous
05/09/2025 13:36
Subject: what is going to happen to teachers' salaries next year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Looks like a 6% raise but staffing cuts
and increase in classroom sizes
decrease in planning time
increase in other areas of responsibility
basically, if you are saved to work, you will be reid's minions
How are they reducing planning time? The bargaining agreement provides elementary teachers with a minimum of 300 minutes of planning time with at least 240 unencumbered. It states that there can be no more than 60 minutes of mandatory collaborative time and the planning will be provided in increments no less than 30 minutes during the instructional day.
That’s in the contract and it’s not like the pay raise that was dependent upon another factor such as funding.
That comes down to about 45 minutes per day. Not sure how anyone can plan for almost 7 hours of instruction in 45 minutes, especially when it's usually during specials and includes the time it takes to walk all the kids down to specials and then pick them up and walk them back.
The PP cited a “reduction” in planning time. This is not a reduction. It’s what is in the negotiated contact. I’m not debating whether it is enough.
Also not reduction- See other thread on 1/2 days at least for ES there will be lots more planning time added to next year as FCPS uses the benchmark 1/2 days to turn them into permanent 1/2 days and now on Wednesdays starting next fall.