Anonymous wrote:Negative opinions of Israel are increasing in both Democrats and Republicans of all age brackets. Congress better take note. American Jews are also growing in their negative opinions of how things are being handled by leadership both here and in Israel.



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Finally

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Anonymous wrote:I wish people would distinguish between a nation and its current government.

Now more than ever, we should care about that.

Israel was wrongfully created.

Ensuring the safety of Jews in all nations is one thing. I would give my life for the religious liberty of all people. Creating a nationalist "homeland" on someone else's land is unconscionable. Zionism and Nazism are eerily similar.

1) no you wouldn’t.

2) Israel has been the ancestral land of Jews since shortly after they escaped slavery in Egypt. Jews have been living in what is now Israel 4000 years before Islam existed.

There is no evidence outside of the Old Testament for the claim that Jews were held in mass captivity in Egypt and subsequently escaped. And he Egyptians kept a LOT of records. It's an origin story. The area (speaking generally of the region) is also the ancestral land of non-Jews are are essentially the same people (including those who converted to Islam 1300 years ago out of necessity).

Besides, you don't give a shit about the ancestral land of all the people who lived in the Americans before the Europeans showed up.

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Anonymous wrote:Generally indifferent to Israel if not considering its corrupting of U.S. politicians, the conflicts of interest with career staffers at State, and all the shitty troublemaking Israel seems to stir up endlessly with its neighbors … but when it comes to talk about a “right to exist”?

GTFOH, no nation has a “right” to exist.

Ectually, sovereignty is the first and driving principle of international law.

Wait, wait, wait!

You have the unmitigated gall to call upon the protections of international law in defense of Israel’s ”rights”?

What about the other 99.9985% of international law that Israel disregards and flouts every single day?

Anonymous wrote:Generally indifferent to Israel if not considering its corrupting of U.S. politicians, the conflicts of interest with career staffers at State, and all the shitty troublemaking Israel seems to stir up endlessly with its neighbors … but when it comes to talk about a “right to exist”?

GTFOH, no nation has a “right” to exist.

Ectually, sovereignty is the first and driving principle of international law.

Anonymous wrote:Generally indifferent to Israel if not considering its corrupting of U.S. politicians, the conflicts of interest with career staffers at State, and all the shitty troublemaking Israel seems to stir up endlessly with its neighbors … but when it comes to talk about a “right to exist”?

GTFOH, no nation has a “right” to exist.

This. I've never understood defending Israel based on this idea. Why on earth does any nation have a "right" to exist?

Generally indifferent to Israel if not considering its corrupting of U.S. politicians, the conflicts of interest with career staffers at State, and all the shitty troublemaking Israel seems to stir up endlessly with its neighbors … but when it comes to talk about a “right to exist”?

GTFOH, no nation has a “right” to exist.

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Anonymous wrote:The I agree on Israel’s right to exist. I do not agree with the idea that an entire nation needs to be sacrificed in order for some others to live in comfort.
Netanyahu is wrong.
Israel does not need to continue the Gaza offensive or expand the West Bank settlements.

Israel as a political entity that is an apartheid occupying nation does not have a right to exist and needs to be dismantled much like how it was done in apartheid South Africa.

A one state solution where all human beings regardless of race and ethnicity are treated equally would be the only fair solution. But Zionist would never ever want that because it is a racist ideology inherently.

Name on nation in the ME where “all human beings regardless of race and ethnicity are treated equally”.

I’ll wait.

Would you also like it to rain lollipops?

After years of rockets and bombs raining down on Israel, they eventually said, “Enough! There can be no peace with these people. “

It is hideous that you are implying that genocide is justified!
Obviously neither side is lily white. Let’s just be clear that the Arab neighbors will be there for all eternity.
Your solution is wrong. I would rather not sacrifice an entire nation, but that is just me

DP. Palestinians were offered their own country 5 separate times, including almost 80 percent of what is Israel today. They refused because they want to wipe Israel off the map.

Israel isn't going anywhere, and its ME neighbors know this. You want peace? Tell Iran to knock it off.

Exactly. And tell Hamas to get out of town, and the Gazans to install a government which is neither corrupt nor interested in perpetual warfare.

It would be so nice if Israel would not be corrupt either, and if it was not interested in perpetual warfare

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Anonymous wrote:The I agree on Israel’s right to exist. I do not agree with the idea that an entire nation needs to be sacrificed in order for some others to live in comfort.
Netanyahu is wrong.
Israel does not need to continue the Gaza offensive or expand the West Bank settlements.

Israel as a political entity that is an apartheid occupying nation does not have a right to exist and needs to be dismantled much like how it was done in apartheid South Africa.

A one state solution where all human beings regardless of race and ethnicity are treated equally would be the only fair solution. But Zionist would never ever want that because it is a racist ideology inherently.

Name on nation in the ME where “all human beings regardless of race and ethnicity are treated equally”.

I’ll wait.

Would you also like it to rain lollipops?

After years of rockets and bombs raining down on Israel, they eventually said, “Enough! There can be no peace with these people. “

It is hideous that you are implying that genocide is justified!
Obviously neither side is lily white. Let’s just be clear that the Arab neighbors will be there for all eternity.
Your solution is wrong. I would rather not sacrifice an entire nation, but that is just me

DP. Palestinians were offered their own country 5 separate times, including almost 80 percent of what is Israel today. They refused because they want to wipe Israel off the map.

Israel isn't going anywhere, and its ME neighbors know this. You want peace? Tell Iran to knock it off.

Exactly. And tell Hamas to get out of town, and the Gazans to install a government which is neither corrupt nor interested in perpetual warfare.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The I agree on Israel’s right to exist. I do not agree with the idea that an entire nation needs to be sacrificed in order for some others to live in comfort.
Netanyahu is wrong.
Israel does not need to continue the Gaza offensive or expand the West Bank settlements.

Israel as a political entity that is an apartheid occupying nation does not have a right to exist and needs to be dismantled much like how it was done in apartheid South Africa.

A one state solution where all human beings regardless of race and ethnicity are treated equally would be the only fair solution. But Zionist would never ever want that because it is a racist ideology inherently.

Name on nation in the ME where “all human beings regardless of race and ethnicity are treated equally”.

I’ll wait.

Would you also like it to rain lollipops?

After years of rockets and bombs raining down on Israel, they eventually said, “Enough! There can be no peace with these people. “

It is hideous that you are implying that genocide is justified!
Obviously neither side is lily white. Let’s just be clear that the Arab neighbors will be there for all eternity.
Your solution is wrong. I would rather not sacrifice an entire nation, but that is just me

DP. Palestinians were offered their own country 5 separate times, including almost 80 percent of what is Israel today. They refused because they want to wipe Israel off the map.

Israel isn't going anywhere, and its ME neighbors know this. You want peace? Tell Iran to knock it off.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The I agree on Israel’s right to exist. I do not agree with the idea that an entire nation needs to be sacrificed in order for some others to live in comfort.
Netanyahu is wrong.
Israel does not need to continue the Gaza offensive or expand the West Bank settlements.

Israel as a political entity that is an apartheid occupying nation does not have a right to exist and needs to be dismantled much like how it was done in apartheid South Africa.

A one state solution where all human beings regardless of race and ethnicity are treated equally would be the only fair solution. But Zionist would never ever want that because it is a racist ideology inherently.

Name on nation in the ME where “all human beings regardless of race and ethnicity are treated equally”.

I’ll wait.

Would you also like it to rain lollipops?

After years of rockets and bombs raining down on Israel, they eventually said, “Enough! There can be no peace with these people. “

It is hideous that you are implying that genocide is justified!
Obviously neither side is lily white. Let’s just be clear that the Arab neighbors will be there for all eternity.
Your solution is wrong. I would rather not sacrifice an entire nation, but that is just me

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in no way looking for your sympathy, PP. I don’t respect you at all, and you’re dishonest.

DP

PP is the classic “get over it!” After they victimize others. Zero accountability, which I guess transfers with the chosen people fairytale.

DP.

Totally agree. Can’t believe that these pro-Palestinian posters want to gaslight everyone into ignoring historical facts. Ignore the UN partition, literally try to wipe Israel off the map, then cry victim.

No accountability whatsoever

You’re way off base, of course, but I will acknowledge that you let your mask slip for just a brief moment and accidentally labeled everyone opposed to Israel’s policies and actions for what they actually are (either “pro-Palestinian“ or “seeking peace for everyone”) instead of labeling them with the knowingly false claim of being “pro-Hamas” or “anti-semitic” or “seeking to kill all Jews”.

Thanks for that, at least …

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Anonymous wrote:I’m in no way looking for your sympathy, PP. I don’t respect you at all, and you’re dishonest.

DP

PP is the classic “get over it!” After they victimize others. Zero accountability, which I guess transfers with the chosen people fairytale.

DP.

Totally agree. Can’t believe that these pro-Palestinian posters want to gaslight everyone into ignoring historical facts. Ignore the UN partition, literally try to wipe Israel off the map, then cry victim.

No accountability whatsoever

Anonymous wrote:I’m in no way looking for your sympathy, PP. I don’t respect you at all, and you’re dishonest.

DP

PP is the classic “get over it!” After they victimize others. Zero accountability, which I guess transfers with the chosen people fairytale.

I’m in no way looking for your sympathy, PP. I don’t respect you at all, and you’re dishonest.

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Anonymous wrote:The I agree on Israel’s right to exist. I do not agree with the idea that an entire nation needs to be sacrificed in order for some others to live in comfort.
Netanyahu is wrong.
Israel does not need to continue the Gaza offensive or expand the West Bank settlements.

Israel as a political entity that is an apartheid occupying nation does not have a right to exist and needs to be dismantled much like how it was done in apartheid South Africa.

A one state solution where all human beings regardless of race and ethnicity are treated equally would be the only fair solution. But Zionist would never ever want that because it is a racist ideology inherently.

Name on nation in the ME where “all human beings regardless of race and ethnicity are treated equally”.

I’ll wait.

Would you also like it to rain lollipops?

Bro, why only ME? At the moment we are not the shining beacon of light, liberty and freedom for all, so let’s not throw stones at others when we are in a glass house.

This. This doesn’t exist anywhere in the world. It’s fantasy.