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Anonymous wrote:What you're also asking for is that one state accept the results of another state's votes in a national election. So pass the Save Act.

No more excuses.

It's been working fine for 250 years. Literally only Trump and his MAGA cult followers have an issue with this.

No, it hasn't been working fine.

Yes, it has. There is no proof that undocumented people are voting in any numbers that would sway an election. In fact, most of the voter fraud that is documented has been by republicans. See Meadows, Mark as a prime example.

That excuse is crap. If ONE noncitizen votes in our elections, that is one too many.
I will remind you that 10 years ago, a race in VA was decided by drawing a name out of a hat because the election ended in a tie.
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/366050-tied-virginia-election-proves-every-vote-actually-does-count/amp/

So to stop your ONE noncitizen from voting, its worth disenfranchising 10 million US citizens who don't have the appropriate documents? You are a fking moron.

Disenfranchising millions has always been the point. "Illegals voting" was just a ruse allalong.

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Anonymous wrote:If your ID reflects your married name, you needed documentation to do that. This is not a good argument against the SAVE ACT.

Except the SAVE Act prevents women who's birth certificates do not match their ID without bridging documentation, from voting. So...

Anonymous wrote:If your ID reflects your married name, you needed documentation to do that. This is not a good argument against the SAVE ACT.

What???
Of course it is.

I have been married for over 45 years. Took my husbands last name, I can not vote with out a Passport according to the SAVE ACT which is BS!

There was never fraud in our elections except Republcians voting for Dead people.

THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION proved this they did a study and they said "no fraud"

You have been conned you fools.

Trump's election denying and fraud lies have always been lies. MAGA morons 64 courts said so! I am tired of this utterly stupid group of people making our lives miserable for a PEDO TRAITOR TWO BIT CON>

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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

Thisis a list of the documents the SAVE Act allows to prove citizenship in order to register to vote. Note that photocopies are NOT acceptable. Do you have your ORIGINAL birth certificate?

Acceptable Documents for Proof of Citizenship

Under the proposed SAVE Act, the following documents are recognized as proof of U.S. citizenship for voter registration:

U.S. Passport: A valid, unexpired United States passport.

Birth Certificate: An original or certified copy of a birth certificate.

Certificate of Naturalization/Citizenship: Documents issued by the Department of Homeland Security.

Consular Report of Birth Abroad: Issued by the U.S. Department of State.

Military ID + Records: A U.S. military identification card combined with a military service record that indicates the applicant's place of birth was in the United States.

Government ID with Birthplace: A valid photo ID card issued by a federal, state, or tribal government that explicitly shows the applicant's place of birth was in the United States.

REAL ID with Citizenship Indicator: A state-issued driver's license or ID that is compliant with the REAL ID Act and specifically denotes U.S. citizenship (note: only a few states currently issue such IDs).

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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

Yes you will need a passport to vote!!!!!!!

If 60 votes are needed then no way it passes.

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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

And the rush will come AFTER the SAVE Act if passed and particularly next summer when people realize they cannot register to vote in the mid-terms as they have no passport, they don't have an authenticated birth certificate and cannot otherwise prove citizenship because all of the agencies responsible for issuing that paperwork are unbelievably overloaded with requests. Other people will not be able to vote because they may have a birth certificate, but isn't authenticated and they can't afford the fee.

Face it. This is a poll tax and imposes an impermissible burden on exercising the right to vote.

More authority? How about the US Supreme Court. Harmon v. Forssenius https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/380/528/

This is not a poll tax. People who do not have IDs in states that require them can get a waiver on the fee to get the ID.

A passport is certainly not the only evidence to prove citizenship. Where did you get that idea?

I suggest that you read the opinion that is linked.

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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

And the rush will come AFTER the SAVE Act if passed and particularly next summer when people realize they cannot register to vote in the mid-terms as they have no passport, they don't have an authenticated birth certificate and cannot otherwise prove citizenship because all of the agencies responsible for issuing that paperwork are unbelievably overloaded with requests. Other people will not be able to vote because they may have a birth certificate, but isn't authenticated and they can't afford the fee.

Face it. This is a poll tax and imposes an impermissible burden on exercising the right to vote.

More authority? How about the US Supreme Court. Harmon v. Forssenius https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/380/528/

This is not a poll tax. People who do not have IDs in states that require them can get a waiver on the fee to get the ID.

A passport is certainly not the only evidence to prove citizenship. Where did you get that idea?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

And the rush will come AFTER the SAVE Act if passed and particularly next summer when people realize they cannot register to vote in the mid-terms as they have no passport, they don't have an authenticated birth certificate and cannot otherwise prove citizenship because all of the agencies responsible for issuing that paperwork are unbelievably overloaded with requests. Other people will not be able to vote because they may have a birth certificate, but isn't authenticated and they can't afford the fee.

Face it. This is a poll tax and imposes an impermissible burden on exercising the right to vote.

More authority? How about the US Supreme Court. Harmon v. Forssenius https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/380/528/

A valid U.S. Passport is the only way to prove citizenship.

Driver's licenses, SS cards and birth certificates do not prove U.S. citizenship.

Come to think of it, most MAGAs don't hold passports, so...

If your ID reflects your married name, you needed documentation to do that. This is not a good argument against the SAVE ACT.

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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Could you please point to the part of the Constitution that specifically prohibits costs and burdens associated with doing anything you listed? I can point to one that does prohibit the direct or indirect imposition of costs and burdens on voting. The 24th Amendment.

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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

It is absolutely true that married women who took their husbands name will not be able to vote under the SAVE Act without documentation and remediation. Please stop telling us that is a lie. It isn't.

Their vagueness was in purpose

So they can claim that disenfranchising women is not what this act is about

And these MAGA morons have no idea what a poll tax is.