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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.

But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol

Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.

You don’t get to steal things if you have to wait a couple of extra minutes for a salesperson, no matter how hard you try to justify it.

Well it happens all the time with no consequences, so functionally, yes you do get to do this.

Wow I hope I do not know you! No morals at all

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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.

But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol

Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.

It’s about taking something that doesn't belong to you. That’s called stealing regardless of how you rationalize it.

If this is all it takes for you to compromise your integrity, let’s hope you aren’t in charge anything really important.

The stores are taking my labor without paying me for it. They are stealing from me. When I have a huge order I don’t want to scan and bag it myself in a tiny area where the machine yells at me and then freezes up when I have to shift things around to make more room. And then wait for someone to come fix it. Self checkout is fine for a few items but for big orders it is a huge hassle. So yes, I agree as a NP this has gotten out of hand.

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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.

But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol

Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.

It’s about taking something that doesn't belong to you. That’s called stealing regardless of how you rationalize it.

If this is all it takes for you to compromise your integrity, let’s hope you aren’t in charge anything really important.

The stores are taking my labor without paying me for it. They are stealing from me. When I have a huge order I don’t want to scan and bag it myself in a tiny area where the machine yells at me and then freezes up when I have to shift things around to make more room. And then wait for someone to come fix it. Self checkout is fine for a few items but for big orders it is a huge hassle. So yes, I agree as a NP this has gotten out of hand.

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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.

But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol

Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.

It’s about taking something that doesn't belong to you. That’s called stealing regardless of how you rationalize it.

If this is all it takes for you to compromise your integrity, let’s hope you aren’t in charge anything really important.

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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.

But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol

Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.

You don’t get to steal things if you have to wait a couple of extra minutes for a salesperson, no matter how hard you try to justify it.

Well it happens all the time with no consequences, so functionally, yes you do get to do this.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't take anything from Target. They have one of the most sophisticated facial recognition systems in retail. I used to date a head of AP for a local Target who showed me their AP office and systems.

They compile all instances of theft until you reach felony level ($1,000 in VA) and then they pounce.

You are banned (trespassed) from all Target stores after getting caught, and like I said, their facial recognition software will be able to nab you if you try to enter in the future, then they press a trespassing charge.

Total BS. You can't aggregate singular instances into a single felony. I don't doubt they want people to believe that but that isn't how the legal system works.

PP didn’t say you get charged with a felony, they said you’re banned from all Targets at that point.

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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.

But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol

Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.

You don’t get to steal things if you have to wait a couple of extra minutes for a salesperson, no matter how hard you try to justify it.

Well it happens all the time with no consequences, so functionally, yes you do get to do this.

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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.

But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol

Nope, like I said I only take something if I try to scan it, it won't scan, I request assistance to help scan it, and then no one comes to help after two minutes. And even then I only take it if it's something I really need right away, like an ingredient in a dish I'm making that evening.

So it's not about efficiency. It's about the store meeting me halfway. If I'm standing in the checkout with my card ready to pay for whatever it is and I'm trying to pay for it and it won't work and I ask for help and you don't send anyone, I'm sorry, I guess it's free. Because I'm not going to stand around in the checkout any longer and I'm not going to make a trip to another score just to get some $2-5 ingredient I need for quesadillas or whatever.

It's about incompetence.

You don’t get to steal things if you have to wait a couple of extra minutes for a salesperson, no matter how hard you try to justify it.

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Anonymous wrote:But when the self checkout stalls out, you can't just keep scanning your other stuff and pay. You are trapped there until the worker comes over and resets the machine. So how are you not paying for your ingredients?

People are talking about situations where the item just does not scan. Not where it scans incorrectly. Most self checkouts have weighted baggage areas and will alert you if you put something in the baggage area that was not scanned, but they are of varying sensitivity and it depends what the item is.

I find this happens most often with plastic wrapped or bagged items where the bar code is printed on the plastic (as opposed to a sticker attached to the plastic). Sometimes the printing is off or sometimes there's a wrinkle or seam in the plastic that makes the item impossible to scan. The scanner won't need to be reset, it just won't acknowledge you're scanning something, making the temptation to just throw it in your bag and not pay very high, especially if there is no one in the vicinity who can come deal with it.

I check my UPC codes before I check out. Yes, really.

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Anonymous wrote:At self checkout, I have a rule that if I try in good faith to scan something and can't get it to scan, and then request help, I will wait about two minutes, tops. Then I make a call. If it's less than $5 and it's something I genuinely need immediately, I just stick it in my cart. If it's pricier but I really need it, I'll wait longer. And if I don't really need it and it's more of an impulse buy, I just abandon it and finish my purchase.

I don't feel guilty about the stuff I wind up taking in this situation -- I'm genuinely trying to pay for it but the store is not invested enough in my purchase to facilitate that. Their loss, literally. For the record, the only place I've ever wound up taking things is Target because they have the worst combination of bad scanners and poorly staffed self-checkout stations. I've never had trouble flagging someone down to help me at Whole Foods or Harris Teeter.

And I have never taken anything rom Trader Joes' because they don't have self checkout at all and their checkers are always really good and efficient.

I do assume that Target simply doesn't care that much whether I pay $4 for my Colby jack cheese, especially as part of a $80 purchase of other items. They likely profit more if I just take the cheese I can't get to scan than they would if they hired and trained people to actually be helpful at self checkout, or to man more of the other checkouts so I didn't wind up in self checkout to begin with. It's very much a choice on their part.

But if they weren’t efficient you’d feel justified stealing from them too, lol

You just don't get it. No one is stealing from the stores with regular check outs. People are taking things from stores that force their labor onto others without any compensation.

Right, because then your trashy ass would get caught

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Anonymous wrote:But when the self checkout stalls out, you can't just keep scanning your other stuff and pay. You are trapped there until the worker comes over and resets the machine. So how are you not paying for your ingredients?

People are talking about situations where the item just does not scan. Not where it scans incorrectly. Most self checkouts have weighted baggage areas and will alert you if you put something in the baggage area that was not scanned, but they are of varying sensitivity and it depends what the item is.

I find this happens most often with plastic wrapped or bagged items where the bar code is printed on the plastic (as opposed to a sticker attached to the plastic). Sometimes the printing is off or sometimes there's a wrinkle or seam in the plastic that makes the item impossible to scan. The scanner won't need to be reset, it just won't acknowledge you're scanning something, making the temptation to just throw it in your bag and not pay very high, especially if there is no one in the vicinity who can come deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:I never cheat at self checkout and I would think less of a friend or coworker that openly admitted to doing so. It makes me wonder what else they try to get away with when no one is watching.

That said, stores with self checkout have decided they’d rather take a hit from people stealing than pay more workers, so they get what they get.

All of this. I avoid self checkout though. I hate it. If I am forced to do it though, I definitely don’t steal. I’ve also accidentally scanned something twice and did not feel like waiting for someone to come fix it for me so I paid double for one item. I hate self checkout though. Really hate it.

Where are people forced to use self checkout?

Very often its the only open checkout and I need food.

So no one is forcing you. Just wait for regular checkout.

Learn to read, moron. Often self check out is the only option. There is no 'regular' checkout, dumbass.

That is very sad for you. You will need to learn to deal with disappointment, won’t you? Have you always had everything handed to you on a silver platter? Never had to fend for yourself? Boot straps are your friends in these situations. Adulting is hard but you can do it!!

Who are you patronizing? The guy who is gaming the system to his advantage with free food? You're the bootlicker too chicken shit to plant your own stake. I'd make you piss your pants in real life.

Now, now. It seems you some pretty big feelings about this. Throwing a tantrum does feel good but you will need to learn to deal with what the world throws at you without sulking or misbehaving or losing control of yourself. I have confidence you can grow up if you try!

Mommy-speak is so ick.

Seriously, gross.

Not PP, but this is satire right?

Anonymous wrote:But when the self checkout stalls out, you can't just keep scanning your other stuff and pay. You are trapped there until the worker comes over and resets the machine. So how are you not paying for your ingredients?