Anonymous wrote:This conversation has really gone off the deep end. Most of the comments are seeking to hold the Dept of Ed responsible for things managed at the state level, which includes the entirety of the k-12 curriculum. The dept of education mostly administers federal financial aid to college students and enforces the law so individual school districts don’t discriminate against children with special needs or other protected categories. That’s really the bulk of it. The Dept of Education policies that people may or may not like are typically presidential mandates like no child left behind.

So yeah, like there many poor kids that went and got degrees on federal aid but can't get a decent job. Most of the college education system is just an elitist social sorting system. Many of these fafsa kids need to go do something else. I mean I wish college was a good way for kids from modest backgrounds to get ahead, but it just isn't.

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Anonymous wrote:If you work for the Department of Education and are posting about how angry you are about losing your job, please realize only 27% of school-aged children between the 4th and 12th grade will be able to read it.

Cite?

lol. If you know this at all national level it is thanks to ED. The National Center for Education Statistics was completely eliminated in this purge. Ironic, no?

My kids received a good, federal testing-based education in Virginia. We work in DC.

VA public school gave my first son early interventions — and I swear it was initiated by the school. So many tests. But it worked.

Sometimes I think events of today are crazy -/ and other times I look back and I am so thankful things worked o it for my family. We worked so hard in DC - We commuted over two hours a day for over 2o years. Various private and non profit jobs. Climbing pushing forwarding sacrificing praying and supporting our extensive family. (Sorry I dont “do punctuation” on my phone).

So thankful my kids had a productive and a safe environment at public. It was not easy. So much committing to my job. Drive park ride walk repeat. I would rush to meet my children at 5:55, to avoid being fined. I paid a baby sitter when I had to work late. I would sacrifice after work parties regularly and would always be behind on workplace politics as a mom. My spouse would have all do that and that was the deal. I was hard was a wreck for many years juggling everything.

I hope “the next family” gets what we got.
We are a hard working dc family. We believe in god and county. I feel for the kids and the Department staff and their beneficiaries. I can’t believe families are being treated this way.

I have one more child in the system. He and his peers are doing great.

I hope families can thrive and continue to have the experience we did. I don’t know what families Musk knows but we work hard and sacrifice a lot.

Sometimes we read and chat and even enjoy ourselves and spend on fun! But mostly it’s for our children.

This conversation has really gone off the deep end. Most of the comments are seeking to hold the Dept of Ed responsible for things managed at the state level, which includes the entirety of the k-12 curriculum. The dept of education mostly administers federal financial aid to college students and enforces the law so individual school districts don’t discriminate against children with special needs or other protected categories. That’s really the bulk of it. The Dept of Education policies that people may or may not like are typically presidential mandates like no child left behind.

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Anonymous wrote:If you work for the Department of Education and are posting about how angry you are about losing your job, please realize only 27% of school-aged children between the 4th and 12th grade will be able to read it.

Cite?

In a similar vein:

"The National Center for Education Statistics recently released the Nation’s Report Card for 2024 and found that only 30% of all fourth graders and 29% of all eighth graders nationwide scored at or above proficient in reading."

https://theatlantavoice.com/black-students-reading-struggle/

Anonymous wrote:If you work for the Department of Education and are posting about how angry you are about losing your job, please realize only 27% of school-aged children between the 4th and 12th grade will be able to read it.

Cite?

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Anonymous wrote:This is just rebranding the segregationist backlash to civil rights. Republicans want state and local schools to be permitted to discriminate against whomever they wish.

We HAVE to keep spending $250 billion a year on the Department of Education. They haven’t budged teat scores, but they might be able to fight racism in some way?

Reposting for the cheap seats in the back, dumb dumbs like you, and the truly in the dark so they don't fall for you crap:

Again, someone who completely misunderstands the Ed's mission. It is the SMALLEST cabinet dept because it has a few, discrete goals, and raising test scores is not one of them:

*Establishing policies on federal financial aid for education and distributing as well as monitoring those funds--hope no one you know filed FAFSA or needs free school lunch
*Collecting data on America's schools and disseminating research-this way we get to know LA and TX are at the bottom.
*Focusing national attention on key issues in education, and making recommendations for education reform--local school boards have the final say.
*Prohibiting discrimination and ensuring equal access to education--IEPs, IDEA, Title Nine.

So all this accomplishes is eliminating a tiny department that protects women, special education students, poor kids, and people trying to access higher ed.

Good work knowing nothing about anything

I want the Department nuked from orbit.

This seems overly harsh for this topic.

I'm not sure you have anything to add. You seem to be in a personal vendetta

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. I would’ve expected more people would have worked there?

Also, everyone gets paid through June 9th? That is actually a generous severance.

But who is going to take care of what the DOE did previously? Will there be more jobs in state education departments now?

Apparently it’s the smallest staff of the cabinet agencies.

It did not even exist in the 1970s.

We had a lot of "slow" people in my class in the 70s. They disappeared from the school system eventually. Would have been nice for them to get some kind of education

+1 and the very significantly disabled were kept at home or resided in institutions

You have it backwards. In the 1970s a lot more kids with developmental issues were being excluded from any form of education than today. That changed with EACHA in 1975, IDEA in 1990 and so on, which mandated that those kids WOULD be able to get a public education wherever possible, via implementing IEPs and similar measures. Now with the closure of Department of Education a lot of that will go away and those kids' families will be left to fend for themselves.

PP here. You misunderstood my post. Trust me, I'm someone who's old enough to be fully aware of what it used to be like and appreciate FAPE. I was a special education teacher for a very long time.

I was a teacher-not special ed. FAPE is not going anywhere. Title I is not going anywhere. More money will get where it needs to go--hopefully. But, it is not getting there now.

PP here. I sincerely hope you're right, but I've taught in areas where the poorest and neediest of kids were relegated to old, deteriorating buildings and given the most basic of materials, many of which were out of date. The more affluent areas had better, but many parents sent their kids to private or parochial schools. I'm doubtful that politicians in those school systems care that funds are directed fairly.

Depends on your state.

Do you trust them? Are you okay with other states doing more?

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Anonymous wrote:If you work for the Department of Education and are posting about how angry you are about losing your job, please realize only 27% of school-aged children between the 4th and 12th grade will be able to read it.

Pretty much those are kids with average IQs.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep your sanity.

We had a much better educated citizenry decades ago for K through 12.

Grade inflation has not helped. It's masking serious problems.

Which decade was your preference?

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Anonymous wrote:If you work for the Department of Education and are posting about how angry you are about losing your job, please realize only 27% of school-aged children between the 4th and 12th grade will be able to read it.

Pretty much those are kids with average IQs.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep your sanity.

We had a much better educated citizenry decades ago for K through 12.

Grade inflation has not helped. It's masking serious problems.

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Anonymous wrote:If you work for the Department of Education and are posting about how angry you are about losing your job, please realize only 27% of school-aged children between the 4th and 12th grade will be able to read it.

Pretty much those are kids with average IQs.

Average IQs and higher

Anonymous wrote:If you work for the Department of Education and are posting about how angry you are about losing your job, please realize only 27% of school-aged children between the 4th and 12th grade will be able to read it.

Pretty much those are kids with average IQs.

If you work for the Department of Education and are posting about how angry you are about losing your job, please realize only 27% of school-aged children between the 4th and 12th grade will be able to read it.

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Anonymous wrote:This is just rebranding the segregationist backlash to civil rights. Republicans want state and local schools to be permitted to discriminate against whomever they wish.

We HAVE to keep spending $250 billion a year on the Department of Education. They haven’t budged teat scores, but they might be able to fight racism in some way?

Reposting for the cheap seats in the back, dumb dumbs like you, and the truly in the dark so they don't fall for you crap:

Again, someone who completely misunderstands the Ed's mission. It is the SMALLEST cabinet dept because it has a few, discrete goals, and raising test scores is not one of them:

*Establishing policies on federal financial aid for education and distributing as well as monitoring those funds--hope no one you know filed FAFSA or needs free school lunch
*Collecting data on America's schools and disseminating research-this way we get to know LA and TX are at the bottom.
*Focusing national attention on key issues in education, and making recommendations for education reform--local school boards have the final say.
*Prohibiting discrimination and ensuring equal access to education--IEPs, IDEA, Title Nine.

So all this accomplishes is eliminating a tiny department that protects women, special education students, poor kids, and people trying to access higher ed.

Good work knowing nothing about anything

“Establishing policies….collecting data, focusing national attention”….all for zero improvement in educational outcomes? Yeah, the taxpayers would like their two trillion dollars back.

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Anonymous wrote:This is just rebranding the segregationist backlash to civil rights. Republicans want state and local schools to be permitted to discriminate against whomever they wish.

We HAVE to keep spending $250 billion a year on the Department of Education. They haven’t budged teat scores, but they might be able to fight racism in some way?

Reposting for the cheap seats in the back, dumb dumbs like you, and the truly in the dark so they don't fall for you crap:

Again, someone who completely misunderstands the Ed's mission. It is the SMALLEST cabinet dept because it has a few, discrete goals, and raising test scores is not one of them:

*Establishing policies on federal financial aid for education and distributing as well as monitoring those funds--hope no one you know filed FAFSA or needs free school lunch
*Collecting data on America's schools and disseminating research-this way we get to know LA and TX are at the bottom.
*Focusing national attention on key issues in education, and making recommendations for education reform--local school boards have the final say.
*Prohibiting discrimination and ensuring equal access to education--IEPs, IDEA, Title Nine.

So all this accomplishes is eliminating a tiny department that protects women, special education students, poor kids, and people trying to access higher ed.

Good work knowing nothing about anything

I want the Department nuked from orbit.