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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious if this was a Mennonite child and if so, why they weren't vaccinated. Vaccination is not prohibited by the religion but I assume there are different cultures with different regional groups. So I'm wondering if a vaccination campaign would easily convince them to get vaccinated, or would they be likely to continue to refuse? Sometimes it really is a matter of education and evidence.

The problem with a vaccination campaign is that it really has to come from someone the people already trust and that's usually NOT public health/government officials or doctors. "Authorities" are usually suspect.

Voices for Vaccines does good work on the vaccine education front.

Therein lies the problem. There is a distrust of experts. This is a very big problem that has to be tackled by the root. I don’t see that happening. People who were dying of COVID, died believing it was from something else.

I’m a skeptic at heart, but I would never blow up the system. Better to work within. The problem for all of its is…experts are planning to leave if their jobs aren’t respected. This is minority rule and thinking that is having outsized consequences.

Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

In addition to points made by others about potential severity of measles, it is actually much more transmissible, and in absence of herd immunity, far more likely to cause a pandemic than COVID. Measles transmits at 1 case to 12-18 additional cases (WHO), while COVID transmits at 1 case to 1-2-1.4 additional cases (NIH). I’ll be getting my booster today.

Anonymous wrote:I'm curious if this was a Mennonite child and if so, why they weren't vaccinated. Vaccination is not prohibited by the religion but I assume there are different cultures with different regional groups. So I'm wondering if a vaccination campaign would easily convince them to get vaccinated, or would they be likely to continue to refuse? Sometimes it really is a matter of education and evidence.

The problem with a vaccination campaign is that it really has to come from someone the people already trust and that's usually NOT public health/government officials or doctors. "Authorities" are usually suspect.

Voices for Vaccines does good work on the vaccine education front.

Anonymous wrote:This disease was deemed eradicated from the US in 2000. It is asinine that 25 years later a child is dying from it because parents are not intelligent enough to do the absolute basics to keep their kids safe.

A parent can make deadly irresponsible decisions for their kid but an adult woman cannot choose whether she wants to be pregnant or not. Got it.

Bravo MAGA, I applaud that you are taking your healthcare cues from a drug addled brainworm guy. He’s definitely more reliable than that evil Dr Faucci.

Unfortunately, the antivax movement is not neatly confined within one segment of our American political system. Before the MAGAs were on board with it, it was a crunchy-liberal-organic-mom thing. And the Covid vaccine mandates made questioning all vaccines a lot more widespread across the political spectrum.

Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

This is pure trash BS. My mom had measles as a kid and thought she was going to die.

Do not listen to this person!

Anonymous wrote:The only sympathy I have is mostly for kids too young to vax. Otherwise, all of the morons refusing to vax get what they deserve. From an evolutionary perspective, it may be positive, because it is nature's way of killing off dumb people.

Go read up on subacute sclerosing panencephalitis. Basically, you can get measles if you're unvaxxed and can be asymptomatic. It can hide in your brain for 20+ years, then all of the sudden it attacks your nervous system. There are no cures, and you just die.

This is the risk idiot parents sign their kids up for when they choose not to vax. America is so stupid. I'm so done with it. Let them all die.

I'm angry too, but I think you need to step back for a second and have sympathy for the school-aged unvaxxed kids too. They didn't choose this; their parents did. And their parents' choice is putting them at risk. The way you're framing this doesn't give those kids humanity or personhood; they're just a consequence for their parents' bad/misinformed decisions. This child's death is a tragedy, not a means through which her parents "get what they deserve." When you say "let them all die" you realize you're talking about children, right?

Now a Rubella outbreak in Texas.

Natural selection takes root.

Go back and look at historical records from 100+ years ago and look at how many people were educated at special schools for the deaf or blind. It’s a lot. Far more than today. Yes, some of them were born deaf or blind or had an accident which resulted in some loss of hearing or sight. But a lot of people lost their sight or hearing as kids from a vaccine preventable disease. Helen Keller probably had meningitis or possibly Hib influenza. Measles has around a .1% rate of causing severe complications including death. That doesn’t sound like much, but it’s 1/1000 and more likely in very young children.

Get your kids vaccinated people! Childhood vaccines confer sterilizing immunity. They just won’t get sick if they’re vaccinated. It’s not like the flu or Covid shots, it’s a lot better.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

STFU, moron.

Big whoop, there are people with AIDs who don't die and live for years, while others die. There were millions with covid who didn't die while others did. I know many people who've gotten the flu and none have ever died, yet the Flu can kill anywhere from 10,000-60,000 Americans oernyear. You make no point whatsoever while sounding like a complete dumbass. This is exactly the same line of asinine thinking antivax dimwitted monkeys use to justify their stupidity in logic.

You suck at statistics, math, and risk analysis.

I think the PP before you is mistaking measles for chickenpox. They probably don’t know the difference.

Yes that is what I suspect as well.

My mother lost hearing in one ear due to the measles.

To try to claim measles is no big deal is SUPREMELY stupid.

Thoughts and prayers

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

STFU, moron.

Big whoop, there are people with AIDs who don't die and live for years, while others die. There were millions with covid who didn't die while others did. I know many people who've gotten the flu and none have ever died, yet the Flu can kill anywhere from 10,000-60,000 Americans oernyear. You make no point whatsoever while sounding like a complete dumbass. This is exactly the same line of asinine thinking antivax dimwitted monkeys use to justify their stupidity in logic.

You suck at statistics, math, and risk analysis.

I think the PP before you is mistaking measles for chickenpox. They probably don’t know the difference.

That was my thought as well unless PP is 150 years old.

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Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

STFU, moron.

Big whoop, there are people with AIDs who don't die and live for years, while others die. There were millions with covid who didn't die while others did. I know many people who've gotten the flu and none have ever died, yet the Flu can kill anywhere from 10,000-60,000 Americans oernyear. You make no point whatsoever while sounding like a complete dumbass. This is exactly the same line of asinine thinking antivax dimwitted monkeys use to justify their stupidity in logic.

You suck at statistics, math, and risk analysis.

I love you.

This disease was deemed eradicated from the US in 2000. It is asinine that 25 years later a child is dying from it because parents are not intelligent enough to do the absolute basics to keep their kids safe.

A parent can make deadly irresponsible decisions for their kid but an adult woman cannot choose whether she wants to be pregnant or not. Got it.

Bravo MAGA, I applaud that you are taking your healthcare cues from a drug addled brainworm guy. He’s definitely more reliable than that evil Dr Faucci.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

STFU, moron.

Big whoop, there are people with AIDs who don't die and live for years, while others die. There were millions with covid who didn't die while others did. I know many people who've gotten the flu and none have ever died, yet the Flu can kill anywhere from 10,000-60,000 Americans oernyear. You make no point whatsoever while sounding like a complete dumbass. This is exactly the same line of asinine thinking antivax dimwitted monkeys use to justify their stupidity in logic.

You suck at statistics, math, and risk analysis.

I think the PP before you is mistaking measles for chickenpox. They probably don’t know the difference.

Anonymous wrote:Just stop with all the fearmongering. There is no information about the health of the child who died. I've posted before that I had measles as a child as did my parents and their parents and all my friends and relatives and not anyone we knew or anyone they knew died. This child must have been very sick. It's quite sad that he wasn't vaccinated, but he might have died from something else if he were very sick. Measles is not polio. It's not going to spark a pandemic. All will be well. Calm down.

STFU, moron.

Big whoop, there are people with AIDs who don't die and live for years, while others die. There were millions with covid who didn't die while others did. I know many people who've gotten the flu and none have ever died, yet the Flu can kill anywhere from 10,000-60,000 Americans oernyear. You make no point whatsoever while sounding like a complete dumbass. This is exactly the same line of asinine thinking antivax dimwitted monkeys use to justify their stupidity in logic.

You suck at statistics, math, and risk analysis.