Anonymous
02/06/2025 17:31
Subject: Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You’ll have to wait until Monday now.
Shouldn't we get something from OPM reflecting today's order? I am not a lawyer, so I am not sure what the next step is.
Mine came about 20 min ago. From the illegal OPM account.
what does it say?
Anonymous
02/06/2025 17:30
Subject: Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You’ll have to wait until Monday now.
Shouldn't we get something from OPM reflecting today's order? I am not a lawyer, so I am not sure what the next step is.
I am a lawyer and your guess is as good as anyone's.
Anonymous
02/06/2025 17:28
Subject: Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You’ll have to wait until Monday now.
Shouldn't we get something from OPM reflecting today's order? I am not a lawyer, so I am not sure what the next step is.
Mine came about 20 min ago. From the illegal OPM account.
Anonymous
02/06/2025 17:15
Subject: Re:Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
Anonymous wrote:Federal Judge has delayed Fork deadline
JUST IN: A federal judge in Massachusetts has ordered a block on the Fork "deferred resignation" program until additional litigation can take place.
Judge George O'Toole, a Clinton appointee, ordered that the deadline for government employees to sign up for Fork should be extended through at least Monday — perhaps longer — while the parties engage in additionel emergency litigation over the implementation of the program.
https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1887565409773330926
Please no X links.
Anonymous
02/06/2025 17:11
Subject: Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
You;ve now got un til MONDY
Anonymous
02/06/2025 16:48
Subject: Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
I don't understand why anyone would take this offer. Since when has Trump been known to be a man of his word or a man of honor?
DON'T DO IT.
DON'T DO IT.
Anonymous
02/06/2025 16:47
Subject: Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
Anonymous wrote:You’ll have to wait until Monday now.
Shouldn't we get something from OPM reflecting today's order? I am not a lawyer, so I am not sure what the next step is.
Anonymous
02/06/2025 16:41
Subject: Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
You’ll have to wait until Monday now.
Anonymous
02/06/2025 15:31
Subject: Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t mind being RIF’d because I’d get a year of severance, which is worth more than the admin leave. The trouble is, I’m very sure I won’t be RIF’d because my agency already doesn’t have enough people to do the work I do, which is statutorily mandated.
Do folks honestly think the govt is going to abide by "old" agreements with regard to RIF/how much severance. I would not bank on getting a full year....
This right here. You have to be suscpicious of any 'guardrails' that we have relied upon/enjoyed in the past. The 'full faith and backing' our government had, is quickly dissipating due to these actions. So things like UI (state managed) could be impacted if/when the system becomes over overtaxed, because there are assumptions about the economy/role of federal government entities will no longer be a safe assumption. I don't know enough about retirement/severance in the federal government, but the ripple effects could be enormous.
Except RIF isn’t an agreement. It’s a statute. I trust federal judges over Mumps.
So are all the cyber and privacy and ethics statutes that are openly being flaunted, and violated, in plain sight. And no one is arresting these people (musk and the virgins).
Anonymous
02/06/2025 15:16
Subject: Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t mind being RIF’d because I’d get a year of severance, which is worth more than the admin leave. The trouble is, I’m very sure I won’t be RIF’d because my agency already doesn’t have enough people to do the work I do, which is statutorily mandated.
Do folks honestly think the govt is going to abide by "old" agreements with regard to RIF/how much severance. I would not bank on getting a full year....
This right here. You have to be suscpicious of any 'guardrails' that we have relied upon/enjoyed in the past. The 'full faith and backing' our government had, is quickly dissipating due to these actions. So things like UI (state managed) could be impacted if/when the system becomes over overtaxed, because there are assumptions about the economy/role of federal government entities will no longer be a safe assumption. I don't know enough about retirement/severance in the federal government, but the ripple effects could be enormous.
Except RIF isn’t an agreement. It’s a statute. I trust federal judges over Mumps.
Anonymous
02/06/2025 14:32
Subject: Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t mind being RIF’d because I’d get a year of severance, which is worth more than the admin leave. The trouble is, I’m very sure I won’t be RIF’d because my agency already doesn’t have enough people to do the work I do, which is statutorily mandated.
Do folks honestly think the govt is going to abide by "old" agreements with regard to RIF/how much severance. I would not bank on getting a full year....
This right here. You have to be suscpicious of any 'guardrails' that we have relied upon/enjoyed in the past. The 'full faith and backing' our government had, is quickly dissipating due to these actions. So things like UI (state managed) could be impacted if/when the system becomes over overtaxed, because there are assumptions about the economy/role of federal government entities will no longer be a safe assumption. I don't know enough about retirement/severance in the federal government, but the ripple effects could be enormous.
Anonymous
02/06/2025 13:35
Subject: Re:Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
Anonymous wrote:Interesting take from former Twitter employees about Musk's management style. Basically, he likes to burn it all down, then see what survives. If it looks like more survivors are needed to keep things going, he'll bring them back.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/lived-elon-musk-twitter-takeover-180406534.html
I would not take the offer unless I was ready to retire this year.
Thanks for sharing. That was really good.
Anonymous
02/06/2025 13:27
Subject: Re:Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
Federal Judge has delayed Fork deadline
JUST IN: A federal judge in Massachusetts has ordered a block on the Fork "deferred resignation" program until additional litigation can take place.
Judge George O'Toole, a Clinton appointee, ordered that the deadline for government employees to sign up for Fork should be extended through at least Monday — perhaps longer — while the parties engage in additionel emergency litigation over the implementation of the program.
https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1887565409773330926
JUST IN: A federal judge in Massachusetts has ordered a block on the Fork "deferred resignation" program until additional litigation can take place.
Judge George O'Toole, a Clinton appointee, ordered that the deadline for government employees to sign up for Fork should be extended through at least Monday — perhaps longer — while the parties engage in additionel emergency litigation over the implementation of the program.
https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1887565409773330926
Anonymous
02/06/2025 13:22
Subject: Re:Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
Here's a letter that Congressman Beyer circulated:
Dear Federal Employees,
I write as you face a career decision, that I know must be stressful and overwhelming, in the offer of so-called deferred resignation from federal civil service.
I am not a lawyer, financial planner, or career advisor, and cannot tell you what to do. But I can offer my empathy and perspective on the choice that faces you. As someone who grew up in a family of civil servants, pursued public service, and represents over 70,000 federal employees, I respect and value your service to the country.
This is a hard moment, and what is happening to you is frightening and unfair.
You can see what Elon Musk and Donald Trump are doing. The hiring freeze, Schedule F, the mass firings, the cancellation of work arrangements and collective bargaining agreements, and the emails and statements insulting you and your work – all are designed to demoralize you, fill your workplace with chaos and fear, and get you to quit.
Deferred resignation is designed to tempt you, but there are major reasons for concern.
First, the Administration says they can rescind this offer after it is accepted and stop paying you, which would leave you with little or no recourse.
Next, the legality of these offers is dubious. They are written by people who clearly don’t know the law or understand how the government works. They promise pay through September even though funding has only been appropriated through March. As you know, that’s not how this works.
Finally, to accept this offer, you must trust that Elon Musk and Donald Trump will keep their word. They both have extensive track records of dishonesty. Their emails are intentionally deceptive, and they are forcing you to make this choice on an arbitrarily rushed timeline - a longtime tactic of scammers and con artists. I do not trust them.
Only you know what is the best choice for you. If you are concerned about your job security and think taking this offer is the lesser evil, there is no shame in that.
But you also know best what will happen if the vital services you provide are downsized, eliminated, or put in the hands of unqualified, inexperienced political flunkies.
You know how important your work is, and however dark this moment feels, your dedication, expertise, and patriotism ARE valued and appreciated, more than you know.
I will not stop fighting for you and for the federal employees who choose to serve the American people, and there are many others who will have your back.
You are not alone, and America needs you more than ever.
Beyer is right. Trump and Musk are absolute scammers and con artists who can never be trusted about anything.
Dear Federal Employees,
I write as you face a career decision, that I know must be stressful and overwhelming, in the offer of so-called deferred resignation from federal civil service.
I am not a lawyer, financial planner, or career advisor, and cannot tell you what to do. But I can offer my empathy and perspective on the choice that faces you. As someone who grew up in a family of civil servants, pursued public service, and represents over 70,000 federal employees, I respect and value your service to the country.
This is a hard moment, and what is happening to you is frightening and unfair.
You can see what Elon Musk and Donald Trump are doing. The hiring freeze, Schedule F, the mass firings, the cancellation of work arrangements and collective bargaining agreements, and the emails and statements insulting you and your work – all are designed to demoralize you, fill your workplace with chaos and fear, and get you to quit.
Deferred resignation is designed to tempt you, but there are major reasons for concern.
First, the Administration says they can rescind this offer after it is accepted and stop paying you, which would leave you with little or no recourse.
Next, the legality of these offers is dubious. They are written by people who clearly don’t know the law or understand how the government works. They promise pay through September even though funding has only been appropriated through March. As you know, that’s not how this works.
Finally, to accept this offer, you must trust that Elon Musk and Donald Trump will keep their word. They both have extensive track records of dishonesty. Their emails are intentionally deceptive, and they are forcing you to make this choice on an arbitrarily rushed timeline - a longtime tactic of scammers and con artists. I do not trust them.
Only you know what is the best choice for you. If you are concerned about your job security and think taking this offer is the lesser evil, there is no shame in that.
But you also know best what will happen if the vital services you provide are downsized, eliminated, or put in the hands of unqualified, inexperienced political flunkies.
You know how important your work is, and however dark this moment feels, your dedication, expertise, and patriotism ARE valued and appreciated, more than you know.
I will not stop fighting for you and for the federal employees who choose to serve the American people, and there are many others who will have your back.
You are not alone, and America needs you more than ever.
Beyer is right. Trump and Musk are absolute scammers and con artists who can never be trusted about anything.
Anonymous
02/06/2025 13:22
Subject: Re:Fork - who is waiting until Thursday to decide?
Interesting take from former Twitter employees about Musk's management style. Basically, he likes to burn it all down, then see what survives. If it looks like more survivors are needed to keep things going, he'll bring them back.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/lived-elon-musk-twitter-takeover-180406534.html
I would not take the offer unless I was ready to retire this year.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/lived-elon-musk-twitter-takeover-180406534.html
I would not take the offer unless I was ready to retire this year.