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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.

See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.

It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.

So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"

I didn't start this thread about Trump at Notre Dame. Blame that on the op.

Why should I blame the OP? The thread is in the political forum so of course it's appropriate to discuss Trump at Notre-Dame ceremony. You were negative about Trump when you wrote that he couldn't ruin the day (why would you think he could ruin the day in the first place unless you have a pre-conceived negative opinion about him?). Then you proceeded to mention his mortality. Sure, everyone dies, but why mention it during a happy occasion? I'm sure you don't go around at a wedding and say the happy couple will outlive their parents, right? You do have more common sense than that, right?

You act like there was some secret message here. I don't think Trump's presence at this ceremony elevates him or this country or the cathedral. I think it's blatant pandering because that's how you get what you want from this guy. You think it's impressive in some way. We disagree and that's allowed. It's a forum.

You're allowed to say whatever you want but just don't deny that the original comment was negative. We see respect, you see pandering. That's fine. But that's negative.

And T is a fount of positivity? He's pledged retribution and dictatorship, and has indicated he won't hire anyone who won't pledge blind loyalty to him at the expense of our nation's constitution. How dare you chide us to be positive. Your leader and (sadly) our future President isn't. At all.

Why do you have to answer everything with what about Trump? We're talking about you people always trying to find something negative to say about Trump and then denying it. That was the point of that convo. I guess, deep down you want just to be like him since you keep on trying to be as "negative" as he is.

And, how dare you accuse me of pledging blind loyalty to Trump at the expense of our constitution? I have my reason to support him and you have your reasons to support someone else. That doesn't make me naive/stupid and you enlightened. Sick of hearing your holier than thou rhetoric that you hold the Universal truth while people who don't agree with you are stupid.

People who voted for Trump are as corrupt and evil as Trump. He wants to dismantle the US Constitution and do do you. So spare us your faux outrage and Holier than thou rhetoric!

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.

See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.

It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.

So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"

I didn't start this thread about Trump at Notre Dame. Blame that on the op.

Why should I blame the OP? The thread is in the political forum so of course it's appropriate to discuss Trump at Notre-Dame ceremony. You were negative about Trump when you wrote that he couldn't ruin the day (why would you think he could ruin the day in the first place unless you have a pre-conceived negative opinion about him?). Then you proceeded to mention his mortality. Sure, everyone dies, but why mention it during a happy occasion? I'm sure you don't go around at a wedding and say the happy couple will outlive their parents, right? You do have more common sense than that, right?

You act like there was some secret message here. I don't think Trump's presence at this ceremony elevates him or this country or the cathedral. I think it's blatant pandering because that's how you get what you want from this guy. You think it's impressive in some way. We disagree and that's allowed. It's a forum.

You're allowed to say whatever you want but just don't deny that the original comment was negative. We see respect, you see pandering. That's fine. But that's negative.

And T is a fount of positivity? He's pledged retribution and dictatorship, and has indicated he won't hire anyone who won't pledge blind loyalty to him at the expense of our nation's constitution. How dare you chide us to be positive. Your leader and (sadly) our future President isn't. At all.

Why do you have to answer everything with what about Trump? We're talking about you people always trying to find something negative to say about Trump and then denying it. That was the point of that convo. I guess, deep down you want just to be like him since you keep on trying to be as "negative" as he is.

And, how dare you accuse me of pledging blind loyalty to Trump at the expense of our constitution? I have my reason to support him and you have your reasons to support someone else. That doesn't make me naive/stupid and you enlightened. Sick of hearing your holier than thou rhetoric that you hold the Universal truth while people who don't agree with you are stupid.

NP. If you support Trump, we know you have no intelligence and/or no integrity. He is an absolutely awful human being who is not remotely qualified to be POTUS. If you don't realize that, you are a fool. If you do, and you voted for him anyway for some batshit reason, then no one owes you or your opinions any respect. Period.

It's not holier than thou rhetoric. It's facts you don't want to face.

And look at where that got you? Did your candidate win? No. Did you win in the senate? No. The house? No. Did your candidate win the popular vote? No.

Being “right” got you no where. In fact I dare say your side regressed.

That is a testament to how far this country has fallen. The ignorant and the a-holes outnumber the reasonable and the kind.

Not something to crow about. You are so so deluded. But time will show you.

When the American electorate elects a democratic candidate for president, they are reasonable and kind!

When the American electorate elects a republican candidate for president, they are ignorant a-holes!

Only democrats should be elected president!

'The American tradition is that the nation has only one president at a time. Right now, that president looks like Donald Trump—because President Biden is ceding the spotlight,' said one Democratic strategist to the Wall Street Journal.

Progressive voices have been especially critical.

Usamah Andrabi, spokesman for the progressive group Justice Democrats, described Biden's actions as 'one of the lamest of lame ducks we've seen with a Democratic administration. A massive missed opportunity.'

Andrabi warned that Trump's ability to shape the public discourse uncontested could have long-term repercussions for the Democratic Party.

Others within the party pointed to a deeper issue: the lack of a cohesive, clear message that resonates with voters.

'The only way to win the war of attention is by going to the voters and explaining things to them, which President Biden has consistently avoided doing,' said Waleed Shahid, a progressive Democratic strategist.

Democrats think that complaining about Trump is all they must do to win elections and appeal to voters. Biden has completely allowed Trump to overshadow him.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.

See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.

It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.

So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"

I didn't start this thread about Trump at Notre Dame. Blame that on the op.

Why should I blame the OP? The thread is in the political forum so of course it's appropriate to discuss Trump at Notre-Dame ceremony. You were negative about Trump when you wrote that he couldn't ruin the day (why would you think he could ruin the day in the first place unless you have a pre-conceived negative opinion about him?). Then you proceeded to mention his mortality. Sure, everyone dies, but why mention it during a happy occasion? I'm sure you don't go around at a wedding and say the happy couple will outlive their parents, right? You do have more common sense than that, right?

You act like there was some secret message here. I don't think Trump's presence at this ceremony elevates him or this country or the cathedral. I think it's blatant pandering because that's how you get what you want from this guy. You think it's impressive in some way. We disagree and that's allowed. It's a forum.

You're allowed to say whatever you want but just don't deny that the original comment was negative. We see respect, you see pandering. That's fine. But that's negative.

And T is a fount of positivity? He's pledged retribution and dictatorship, and has indicated he won't hire anyone who won't pledge blind loyalty to him at the expense of our nation's constitution. How dare you chide us to be positive. Your leader and (sadly) our future President isn't. At all.

Why do you have to answer everything with what about Trump? We're talking about you people always trying to find something negative to say about Trump and then denying it. That was the point of that convo. I guess, deep down you want just to be like him since you keep on trying to be as "negative" as he is.

And, how dare you accuse me of pledging blind loyalty to Trump at the expense of our constitution? I have my reason to support him and you have your reasons to support someone else. That doesn't make me naive/stupid and you enlightened. Sick of hearing your holier than thou rhetoric that you hold the Universal truth while people who don't agree with you are stupid.

NP. If you support Trump, we know you have no intelligence and/or no integrity. He is an absolutely awful human being who is not remotely qualified to be POTUS. If you don't realize that, you are a fool. If you do, and you voted for him anyway for some batshit reason, then no one owes you or your opinions any respect. Period.

It's not holier than thou rhetoric. It's facts you don't want to face.

We all know that you think your sh*t don't stink, but it does like anyone else. You're the one missing a few nuts, dear. The simple fact that you thought just a few months ago that Biden was up to lead our country for another 4 years tells me everything I need to know about your intelligence. The fact is you're a stupid whiny loser who can't accept that people of United States have spoken. Insisting that you know better will not make it a fact.

Did you miss where is says "NP"? It says nothing in my post about Biden or anything else other than that Trump is not qualified (he's not) and that anyone who voted for him is a fool or batshit (also true). If you supported him, you don't get to cast aspersions about anyone's intelligence. Your post is a whole lot of typical MAGA-whiner projection. Every accusation is a confession. Reread your entire paragraph and apply to yourself, sweetheart.

Some of us are realists who can see that the country is going down the toilet, because too many people (like you, dear) were either hoodwinked by Trump or are just as much a POS as he is. We don't have to follow you down into the gutter.

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Anonymous wrote:Tbh I do wonder why Biden wasn’t there instead. He is the sitting US president. It seems like he should be there.

Foreign leaders criticized Trump. Now they’re courting him.

The president-elect is in Paris on Saturday not as a punchline but as a guest of honor for the reopening of Notre Dame, the world-famous cathedral whose guardians once seemed to mock him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/12/07/trump-notre-dame-france-macron/

Biden is out, Trump is in.

They all still (rightly) think Trump is a senile clown but are now in the unfortunate situation of needing his cooperation to keep the world from going sideways.

Same way the western world felt about the racist womanizer Franklin Roosevelt but that turned out okay.

Funny you have to go back until the 1940's! Yes, Trump would have fitted in very nicely!

Well, that was the last time European leaders were courting Roosevelt to save them from the Nazis

Trump would have told them 'America first!' I like German generals. Hitler was a brillant leader.

No that was old Joe Kennedy who was shouting “America First” in his brief tenure as Ambassador to the Court of St James. After he scooped up valuable the British liquor licenses to expand his prohibition booze business, Churchill insisted old Joe be recalled. Then the US got into the war.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.

See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.

It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.

So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"

I didn't start this thread about Trump at Notre Dame. Blame that on the op.

Why should I blame the OP? The thread is in the political forum so of course it's appropriate to discuss Trump at Notre-Dame ceremony. You were negative about Trump when you wrote that he couldn't ruin the day (why would you think he could ruin the day in the first place unless you have a pre-conceived negative opinion about him?). Then you proceeded to mention his mortality. Sure, everyone dies, but why mention it during a happy occasion? I'm sure you don't go around at a wedding and say the happy couple will outlive their parents, right? You do have more common sense than that, right?

You act like there was some secret message here. I don't think Trump's presence at this ceremony elevates him or this country or the cathedral. I think it's blatant pandering because that's how you get what you want from this guy. You think it's impressive in some way. We disagree and that's allowed. It's a forum.

You're allowed to say whatever you want but just don't deny that the original comment was negative. We see respect, you see pandering. That's fine. But that's negative.

And T is a fount of positivity? He's pledged retribution and dictatorship, and has indicated he won't hire anyone who won't pledge blind loyalty to him at the expense of our nation's constitution. How dare you chide us to be positive. Your leader and (sadly) our future President isn't. At all.

Why do you have to answer everything with what about Trump? We're talking about you people always trying to find something negative to say about Trump and then denying it. That was the point of that convo. I guess, deep down you want just to be like him since you keep on trying to be as "negative" as he is.

And, how dare you accuse me of pledging blind loyalty to Trump at the expense of our constitution? I have my reason to support him and you have your reasons to support someone else. That doesn't make me naive/stupid and you enlightened. Sick of hearing your holier than thou rhetoric that you hold the Universal truth while people who don't agree with you are stupid.

NP. If you support Trump, we know you have no intelligence and/or no integrity. He is an absolutely awful human being who is not remotely qualified to be POTUS. If you don't realize that, you are a fool. If you do, and you voted for him anyway for some batshit reason, then no one owes you or your opinions any respect. Period.

It's not holier than thou rhetoric. It's facts you don't want to face.

And look at where that got you? Did your candidate win? No. Did you win in the senate? No. The house? No. Did your candidate win the popular vote? No.

Being “right” got you no where. In fact I dare say your side regressed.

That is a testament to how far this country has fallen. The ignorant and the a-holes outnumber the reasonable and the kind.

Not something to crow about. You are so so deluded. But time will show you.

lol

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.

See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.

It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.

So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"

I didn't start this thread about Trump at Notre Dame. Blame that on the op.

Why should I blame the OP? The thread is in the political forum so of course it's appropriate to discuss Trump at Notre-Dame ceremony. You were negative about Trump when you wrote that he couldn't ruin the day (why would you think he could ruin the day in the first place unless you have a pre-conceived negative opinion about him?). Then you proceeded to mention his mortality. Sure, everyone dies, but why mention it during a happy occasion? I'm sure you don't go around at a wedding and say the happy couple will outlive their parents, right? You do have more common sense than that, right?

You act like there was some secret message here. I don't think Trump's presence at this ceremony elevates him or this country or the cathedral. I think it's blatant pandering because that's how you get what you want from this guy. You think it's impressive in some way. We disagree and that's allowed. It's a forum.

You're allowed to say whatever you want but just don't deny that the original comment was negative. We see respect, you see pandering. That's fine. But that's negative.

And T is a fount of positivity? He's pledged retribution and dictatorship, and has indicated he won't hire anyone who won't pledge blind loyalty to him at the expense of our nation's constitution. How dare you chide us to be positive. Your leader and (sadly) our future President isn't. At all.

Why do you have to answer everything with what about Trump? We're talking about you people always trying to find something negative to say about Trump and then denying it. That was the point of that convo. I guess, deep down you want just to be like him since you keep on trying to be as "negative" as he is.

And, how dare you accuse me of pledging blind loyalty to Trump at the expense of our constitution? I have my reason to support him and you have your reasons to support someone else. That doesn't make me naive/stupid and you enlightened. Sick of hearing your holier than thou rhetoric that you hold the Universal truth while people who don't agree with you are stupid.

NP. If you support Trump, we know you have no intelligence and/or no integrity. He is an absolutely awful human being who is not remotely qualified to be POTUS. If you don't realize that, you are a fool. If you do, and you voted for him anyway for some batshit reason, then no one owes you or your opinions any respect. Period.

It's not holier than thou rhetoric. It's facts you don't want to face.

We all know that you think your sh*t don't stink, but it does like anyone else. You're the one missing a few nuts, dear. The simple fact that you thought just a few months ago that Biden was up to lead our country for another 4 years tells me everything I need to know about your intelligence. The fact is you're a stupid whiny loser who can't accept that people of United States have spoken. Insisting that you know better will not make it a fact.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.

See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.

It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.

So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"

I didn't start this thread about Trump at Notre Dame. Blame that on the op.

Why should I blame the OP? The thread is in the political forum so of course it's appropriate to discuss Trump at Notre-Dame ceremony. You were negative about Trump when you wrote that he couldn't ruin the day (why would you think he could ruin the day in the first place unless you have a pre-conceived negative opinion about him?). Then you proceeded to mention his mortality. Sure, everyone dies, but why mention it during a happy occasion? I'm sure you don't go around at a wedding and say the happy couple will outlive their parents, right? You do have more common sense than that, right?

You act like there was some secret message here. I don't think Trump's presence at this ceremony elevates him or this country or the cathedral. I think it's blatant pandering because that's how you get what you want from this guy. You think it's impressive in some way. We disagree and that's allowed. It's a forum.

You're allowed to say whatever you want but just don't deny that the original comment was negative. We see respect, you see pandering. That's fine. But that's negative.

And T is a fount of positivity? He's pledged retribution and dictatorship, and has indicated he won't hire anyone who won't pledge blind loyalty to him at the expense of our nation's constitution. How dare you chide us to be positive. Your leader and (sadly) our future President isn't. At all.

Why do you have to answer everything with what about Trump? We're talking about you people always trying to find something negative to say about Trump and then denying it. That was the point of that convo. I guess, deep down you want just to be like him since you keep on trying to be as "negative" as he is.

And, how dare you accuse me of pledging blind loyalty to Trump at the expense of our constitution? I have my reason to support him and you have your reasons to support someone else. That doesn't make me naive/stupid and you enlightened. Sick of hearing your holier than thou rhetoric that you hold the Universal truth while people who don't agree with you are stupid.

NP. If you support Trump, we know you have no intelligence and/or no integrity. He is an absolutely awful human being who is not remotely qualified to be POTUS. If you don't realize that, you are a fool. If you do, and you voted for him anyway for some batshit reason, then no one owes you or your opinions any respect. Period.

It's not holier than thou rhetoric. It's facts you don't want to face.

And look at where that got you? Did your candidate win? No. Did you win in the senate? No. The house? No. Did your candidate win the popular vote? No.

Being “right” got you no where. In fact I dare say your side regressed.

That is a testament to how far this country has fallen. The ignorant and the a-holes outnumber the reasonable and the kind.

Not something to crow about. You are so so deluded. But time will show you.

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Anonymous wrote:Gross. He’s leaving orange skid marks all over Paris.

Ha ha ha you know what I think- you Dems are jealous. Jealous your lives are not nearly as exciting, worldly or interesting. The way you berate, crap on and go on and on about Trump is very odd.

We will call out every single horrible thing the orange POS does while he’s in office. And the gross MAGAs get off on it because they really voted for him just to spite the Ds/normal people.

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You just need to crawl back under your rock..
You are insignificant now like a speck of dandruff on US's shirt.

Lovely to see you are gracious winners as well as losers.

Yes, you've set the bar so high over the past four years.
DP

What are you talking about? When Biden or Obama won I never told people to 'cry harder' I was relieved but didn't taunt anyone. Unlike maga voters

Obama told his supporters to get in people’s faces and argue with them.

You have to back your claim up. Alao, maga are thr biggest 'in your face' people.

DP. Now there’s some utter BS. It’s been clear for at least the past 5-10 years who the most “in your face” people are - LWNJs. Just look at this forum and the thread after thread of nutty screeds written by liberals. Look at the behavior of the left with their protesting and intimidation of anyone who doesn’t go along with them. I actually laughed when I read your silly claim.

Election workers, Liz Cheney, any judge who ruled against Trump etc. who received death threats from MAGA morons would like a word.

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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive and even Trump's presence there cannot ruin it. It was their way before Trump came along and it will be there way after he is long gone.

See? What did I just say? Always try to find something negative to say.

It's not negative. It's positive. This day is about Notre Dame and the restoration. This day is not about Trump. Pope Francis had it right. Let the cathedral be the center of attention.

So why say that his presence could not ruin the day and mention his mortality. That's pretty negative to me. You could have just stopped at "Notre Dame it's quite beautiful. The restoration is impressive"

I didn't start this thread about Trump at Notre Dame. Blame that on the op.

Why should I blame the OP? The thread is in the political forum so of course it's appropriate to discuss Trump at Notre-Dame ceremony. You were negative about Trump when you wrote that he couldn't ruin the day (why would you think he could ruin the day in the first place unless you have a pre-conceived negative opinion about him?). Then you proceeded to mention his mortality. Sure, everyone dies, but why mention it during a happy occasion? I'm sure you don't go around at a wedding and say the happy couple will outlive their parents, right? You do have more common sense than that, right?

You act like there was some secret message here. I don't think Trump's presence at this ceremony elevates him or this country or the cathedral. I think it's blatant pandering because that's how you get what you want from this guy. You think it's impressive in some way. We disagree and that's allowed. It's a forum.

You're allowed to say whatever you want but just don't deny that the original comment was negative. We see respect, you see pandering. That's fine. But that's negative.

And T is a fount of positivity? He's pledged retribution and dictatorship, and has indicated he won't hire anyone who won't pledge blind loyalty to him at the expense of our nation's constitution. How dare you chide us to be positive. Your leader and (sadly) our future President isn't. At all.

Why do you have to answer everything with what about Trump? We're talking about you people always trying to find something negative to say about Trump and then denying it. That was the point of that convo. I guess, deep down you want just to be like him since you keep on trying to be as "negative" as he is.

And, how dare you accuse me of pledging blind loyalty to Trump at the expense of our constitution? I have my reason to support him and you have your reasons to support someone else. That doesn't make me naive/stupid and you enlightened. Sick of hearing your holier than thou rhetoric that you hold the Universal truth while people who don't agree with you are stupid.

NP. If you support Trump, we know you have no intelligence and/or no integrity. He is an absolutely awful human being who is not remotely qualified to be POTUS. If you don't realize that, you are a fool. If you do, and you voted for him anyway for some batshit reason, then no one owes you or your opinions any respect. Period.

It's not holier than thou rhetoric. It's facts you don't want to face.

And look at where that got you? Did your candidate win? No. Did you win in the senate? No. The house? No. Did your candidate win the popular vote? No.

Being “right” got you no where. In fact I dare say your side regressed.

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No dear. Trump supporters are the fools. You will see. You will see.