Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 07:48     Subject: Re:25% tariff effective January 20th

Walmart US CEO Live now on CBS Mornings talking about tariffs. He says 2/3 of what they sell is made in the US and while there might be a slight increase in some items, they will deal with it accordingly and have dealt with tariffs for last 7 yrs. Nothing new.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 07:32     Subject: 25% tariff effective January 20th

I don’t care anymore. I make 600k a year. I can afford these tariffs. Let the working class that voted Republican feel the full pain of these.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 07:29     Subject: 25% tariff effective January 20th

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just sending a wake up call that there is a new sheriff in town and the scoff laws need to clean up their acts.

Can you explain how Canada is a “scofflaw”? Or are you simply opposed to any international trade and think we should be closed to the outside world like 18th century Japan?


Trudeau's insidious plan to confiscate Amish land in Canada. They wee fined for crossing the US/Canadian border during COVID. The fine notices were sent electronically so Amish never received no placing liens on their land. Just another example of Trump putting a petty tyrant in their place.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 07:28     Subject: 25% tariff effective January 20th

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump has announced an across the board tariff on anything being imported from China, Mexico or Canada.

So much for cars, produce and most of what people buy at Walmart and Target. I guess their bribe wasn't enough.


This is false. This is a negotiation tactic to gain concessions and leverage.

No idea if tariffs will happen or not, but it sets up an adversarial relationship with the countries in question. See it for what it is and stop pushing the panic button right out of the gate.


Ahh yes, because that worked out so well last time:

“The strangest part," Bown says, was a provision that instructed China to buy an extra $200 billion of American-made stuff. That is, not only did China have to return to buying the amount of stuff it had bought before the trade war, it had to go above and beyond that. $200 billion above and beyond that. And it had to do so in two years; by the end of 2021. "We had never seen a trade agreement like that before," Bown says.

Now that it's 2022 — and China's deadline to buy boatloads of American-made stuff has passed — Bown recently crunched the numbers to see how much China ended up actually buying. "In the end," Bown says, "China actually bought none of the additional $200 billion of exports that it promised in the agreement."

Zilch. Nada.

But it's actually worse than that. While China did ramp up its purchases of U.S. agricultural products, when it comes to buying U.S. products and services overall, it still hasn't even returned to buying the amount of stuff it had bought from America before the trade war began.”

https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2022/02/15/1079761270/china-promised-trump-a-better-deal-for-america-it-didnt-actually-deliver



Well no shit - Trump wasn’t there to enforce it. You think China gave two shits about complying with an agreement they knew Biden wouldn’t enforce?
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 07:26     Subject: 25% tariff effective January 20th

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:On the groceries issue: don’t expect the US to make up for lost fruit/veggie imports by growing more here. Trump not only plans to deport any undocumented workers in the US ag industry; he plants to kill the program that allows seasonal agricultural workers to come here *legally* on H2 visas.

-washington post


You know the best part? Which state produces most fruits and veggies?


I would guess California


This will be so much fun for MAGA!
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 07:26     Subject: 25% tariff effective January 20th

Anonymous wrote:On the groceries issue: don’t expect the US to make up for lost fruit/veggie imports by growing more here. Trump not only plans to deport any undocumented workers in the US ag industry; he plants to kill the program that allows seasonal agricultural workers to come here *legally* on H2 visas.

-washington post


Those visas are only legally for the shirt-term (5 months). They are supposed to leave and return the following year under another seasonal visa. The problem is that they don’t leave.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 07:25     Subject: 25% tariff effective January 20th

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, funny that you neglected to include this:

Trump said the tariffs would remain in place until the two countries clamp down on drugs, particularly fentanyl, and migrants crossing the border illegally.


He said the same to Mexico during his presidency- Mexico then sent 15,000 troops to the US border and 6,000 to the Guatemala border.

Trump got what he wanted from Mexico and didn’t enact the tariff.


Is that why our border was closed during Trump's first term?
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 07:23     Subject: 25% tariff effective January 20th

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump has announced an across the board tariff on anything being imported from China, Mexico or Canada.

So much for cars, produce and most of what people buy at Walmart and Target. I guess their bribe wasn't enough.


This is false. This is a negotiation tactic to gain concessions and leverage.

No idea if tariffs will happen or not, but it sets up an adversarial relationship with the countries in question. See it for what it is and stop pushing the panic button right out of the gate.


Ahh yes, because that worked out so well last time:

“The strangest part," Bown says, was a provision that instructed China to buy an extra $200 billion of American-made stuff. That is, not only did China have to return to buying the amount of stuff it had bought before the trade war, it had to go above and beyond that. $200 billion above and beyond that. And it had to do so in two years; by the end of 2021. "We had never seen a trade agreement like that before," Bown says.

Now that it's 2022 — and China's deadline to buy boatloads of American-made stuff has passed — Bown recently crunched the numbers to see how much China ended up actually buying. "In the end," Bown says, "China actually bought none of the additional $200 billion of exports that it promised in the agreement."

Zilch. Nada.

But it's actually worse than that. While China did ramp up its purchases of U.S. agricultural products, when it comes to buying U.S. products and services overall, it still hasn't even returned to buying the amount of stuff it had bought from America before the trade war began.”

https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2022/02/15/1079761270/china-promised-trump-a-better-deal-for-america-it-didnt-actually-deliver


This is what people don’t understand. We’re seeing long term effects of his poor economic policies. Our ag sector hasn’t increased since he tanked it and are still getting handouts. China is foaming at the mouth to take green energy from us now that we elected an incompetent felon, and we’ll be too far behind to catch up. The loss of innovation and isolationism will kill us.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 07:22     Subject: 25% tariff effective January 20th

Anonymous wrote:OP, funny that you neglected to include this:

Trump said the tariffs would remain in place until the two countries clamp down on drugs, particularly fentanyl, and migrants crossing the border illegally.


He said the same to Mexico during his presidency- Mexico then sent 15,000 troops to the US border and 6,000 to the Guatemala border.

Trump got what he wanted from Mexico and didn’t enact the tariff.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 06:59     Subject: 25% tariff effective January 20th

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:On the groceries issue: don’t expect the US to make up for lost fruit/veggie imports by growing more here. Trump not only plans to deport any undocumented workers in the US ag industry; he plants to kill the program that allows seasonal agricultural workers to come here *legally* on H2 visas.

-washington post


You know the best part? Which state produces most fruits and veggies?


I would guess California
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 06:56     Subject: 25% tariff effective January 20th

Anonymous wrote:On the groceries issue: don’t expect the US to make up for lost fruit/veggie imports by growing more here. Trump not only plans to deport any undocumented workers in the US ag industry; he plants to kill the program that allows seasonal agricultural workers to come here *legally* on H2 visas.

-washington post


You know the best part? Which state produces most fruits and veggies?
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 06:43     Subject: 25% tariff effective January 20th

Anonymous wrote:Just sending a wake up call that there is a new sheriff in town and the scoff laws need to clean up their acts.

Can you explain how Canada is a “scofflaw”? Or are you simply opposed to any international trade and think we should be closed to the outside world like 18th century Japan?
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 06:28     Subject: Re:25% tariff effective January 20th

This will be catastrophic for the U.S. economy. Our three biggest trading partners!

It will also likely harm our anti-narcotics cooperation with China and send fentanyl deaths back up.

Trump and the GOP own all of it. No one else to blame.

Congratulations MAGA!
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 06:25     Subject: 25% tariff effective January 20th

[twitter]
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Trump has announced an across the board tariff on anything being imported from China, Mexico or Canada.

So much for cars, produce and most of what people buy at Walmart and Target. I guess their bribe wasn't enough.


He has to get 60 senators to go along with that. Did he explain how he would do that? I doubt he could get 40 senators

Tariffs are something that a president can do without input from Congress.


Wow. That is why he chose to do it......it's the only thing he can do. So much for some grand strategy


He is not a smart man. That is a double edged sword, but it does prevent him from doing a lot of things. It also makes the US look really bad. Like bumbling idiots.
Anonymous
Post 11/26/2024 06:00     Subject: 25% tariff effective January 20th

Just sending a wake up call that there is a new sheriff in town and the scoff laws need to clean up their acts.