Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:50     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey folks, here is a recent quote from Elon:

Elon Musk said the point of the "Department Of Government Efficiency" is not cruelty. "We will reduce a lot of government headcount, but we're going to give very long severances. Like two years, or something like that."

Maybe there is a silver lining.


Honestly though, Elon is so clueless. Does the government ever provide severance pay? I didn’t think so…Would they need legislation to be able to provide those kind of deals? I realize they are going to play fast and loose with the law but appropriations are a big deal.


Yes it does. I can be up to a year depending on length or service and age. It will be quite expensive to RIF on mass..though Congress could change the laws of course.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/pay-administration/fact-sheets/severance-pay/


OMG lol!
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:47     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not really, things will work out just fine.
We've done it before, we got this!
A job is just a job, nothing is ever guaranteed.
(if one door closes, another opens)


When did we do this before???

He wasn’t like this during his first term at all. There were still relatively sane people around him and the Supreme Court wasn’t stacked in his favor.


The Supreme Court was stacked in his favor last time, and so far his appointees are relatively sane establishment types who also managed to be loyal to him.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:47     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey folks, here is a recent quote from Elon:

Elon Musk said the point of the "Department Of Government Efficiency" is not cruelty. "We will reduce a lot of government headcount, but we're going to give very long severances. Like two years, or something like that."

Maybe there is a silver lining.


Honestly though, Elon is so clueless. Does the government ever provide severance pay? I didn’t think so…Would they need legislation to be able to provide those kind of deals? I realize they are going to play fast and loose with the law but appropriations are a big deal.


Yes it does. I can be up to a year depending on length or service and age. It will be quite expensive to RIF on mass..though Congress could change the laws of course.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/pay-administration/fact-sheets/severance-pay/


I feel like they want to do these cuts w/o actual RIFs which are a cumbersome process. Will they be able to? I don’t know but my sense is they think they can avoid the usual processes.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:46     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
For those who are concerned about being moved out of DC: keep in mind that this will be a very long process, particularly if multiple agencies are moving at once. The GSA manages all federal buildings and leasing, and like all agencies it has a limited staff. Yes, it could handle a few agencies moving at a time, but there is simply no way that it would be able to move 70 percent of the non-DOD DC federal workforce within four years. So yes, there is a chance that your job will move, but there also just are logistical limits.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:43     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
Anonymous wrote:Not really, things will work out just fine.
We've done it before, we got this!
A job is just a job, nothing is ever guaranteed.
(if one door closes, another opens)


When did we do this before???

He wasn’t like this during his first term at all. There were still relatively sane people around him and the Supreme Court wasn’t stacked in his favor.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:42     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:if you are at a risky agency then start looking around.


I’m at NIh and have been for a week now. I found a job at ICE but don’t have a top secret clearance.


I’m at NIH as well and feel safe. I would not if I were at FDA or CDC. In general, I think HHS will be ok. Wishful thinking, maybe.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:37     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hey folks, here is a recent quote from Elon:

Elon Musk said the point of the "Department Of Government Efficiency" is not cruelty. "We will reduce a lot of government headcount, but we're going to give very long severances. Like two years, or something like that."

Maybe there is a silver lining.


Honestly though, Elon is so clueless. Does the government ever provide severance pay? I didn’t think so…Would they need legislation to be able to provide those kind of deals? I realize they are going to play fast and loose with the law but appropriations are a big deal.


Yes it does. I can be up to a year depending on length or service and age. It will be quite expensive to RIF on mass..though Congress could change the laws of course.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/pay-administration/fact-sheets/severance-pay/
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:35     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
Anonymous wrote:Hey folks, here is a recent quote from Elon:

Elon Musk said the point of the "Department Of Government Efficiency" is not cruelty. "We will reduce a lot of government headcount, but we're going to give very long severances. Like two years, or something like that."

Maybe there is a silver lining.


Honestly though, Elon is so clueless. Does the government ever provide severance pay? I didn’t think so…Would they need legislation to be able to provide those kind of deals? I realize they are going to play fast and loose with the law but appropriations are a big deal.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:29     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
Anonymous wrote:Hey folks, here is a recent quote from Elon:

Elon Musk said the point of the "Department Of Government Efficiency" is not cruelty. "We will reduce a lot of government headcount, but we're going to give very long severances. Like two years, or something like that."

Maybe there is a silver lining.


The problem is that Musk is not the one appropriating money for that incredibly generous severance. While that would be amazing, I can't imagine that Congress would allow anything close to that.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:26     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
Anonymous wrote:Not really, things will work out just fine.
We've done it before, we got this!
A job is just a job, nothing is ever guaranteed.
(if one door closes, another opens)


Agreed. I was much more disappointed when he was elected the first time, now I know the American people are stupid and that’s fine, honestly.

In practice it is hard for politicals to be actively hostile to people they work with whose job it is to implement THEIR ideas. Some of the Trump politicals were super demented but a lot of them tried to present as normal.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 09:14     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
Hey folks, here is a recent quote from Elon:

Elon Musk said the point of the "Department Of Government Efficiency" is not cruelty. "We will reduce a lot of government headcount, but we're going to give very long severances. Like two years, or something like that."

Maybe there is a silver lining.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 08:37     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have 19 years at the DOJ and carry the family health insurance. We plan to switch it to my husband as he is at an agency not being targeted. My rational mind says not to worry but I am and I do. I believe in public service, I even agree with some things he wants and plans to do but it is still nerve wracking. I dedicated the better part of my career to lublic service and took pay cuts for stability. Spare me the private sector layoff guilt. I grew up with it. I just want to do my job and to continue to serve. I guess we need a budget too so who knows what will happen.


Why would you switch your insurance now? If you are fired or otherwise leave your job, you can switch it then.


Congratulations on not understanding how FEHB works.


Another day on DCUM another snide but wrong remark. Not sure why I even opened this thread.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 08:37     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have 19 years at the DOJ and carry the family health insurance. We plan to switch it to my husband as he is at an agency not being targeted. My rational mind says not to worry but I am and I do. I believe in public service, I even agree with some things he wants and plans to do but it is still nerve wracking. I dedicated the better part of my career to lublic service and took pay cuts for stability. Spare me the private sector layoff guilt. I grew up with it. I just want to do my job and to continue to serve. I guess we need a budget too so who knows what will happen.


Why would you switch your insurance now? If you are fired or otherwise leave your job, you can switch it then.


Presumably to have one fewer thing to worry about when she gets fired.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 08:25     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
Anonymous wrote:if you are at a risky agency then start looking around.


I’m at NIh and have been for a week now. I found a job at ICE but don’t have a top secret clearance.
Anonymous
Post 11/12/2024 08:16     Subject: Other feds just very depressed?
if you are at a risky agency then start looking around.