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Anonymous wrote:The Republicans who are bothered by the moderators fact checking Trump but not Harris aren't looking at the big picture.

Trump lied about 30 times (possibly more), and was fact-checked about 6 times. So over 20 times he was not fact checked for his lies.

Harris possibly lied a handful of times, maybe as many as 5-6 times. And was not fact checked.

They still let Trump get away with about 3 times as many lies as Harris without fact checking them.

The moderator job is to make sure there is decorum and move questions along not fact check that is what the senators do to each other

Fact checking was specifically agreed upon and allowed at this debate by both campaigns. Don't whine because what they agreed to actually happened. And it's not ABC's fault one of the debate participants can't seem to stop blatantly lying at every turn.

A discussion moderator or debate moderator is a person whose role is to act as a neutral participant in a debate or discussion, holds participants to time limits and tries to keep them from straying off the topic of the questions being raised in the debate. Nothing to do with fact checking that is not what a moderator does. In fact it wasn't in the rules and is a violation

ABC News released the debate rules for "Kamala Harris and Donald Trump – ABC News Presidential Debate" on Tuesday, Sept. 10, at 9:00 p.m. EDT, which will air live on ABC and stream live on the 24/7 streaming network ABC News Live, Disney+ and Hulu, and is available for simulcast. The debate will take place at the National Constitution Center (525 Arch St., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 19106). "World News Tonight" anchor and managing editor David Muir and "World News Tonight" Sunday anchor and ABC News Live "Prime" anchor Linsey Davis will serve as moderators. Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump have qualified for the debate under the established criteria, and both have accepted the following debate rules, which include the following:

- The debate will be 90 minutes with two commercial breaks.

- The two seated moderators, David Muir and Linsey Davis, will be the only people asking questions.

- A coin flip was held virtually on Tuesday, Sept. 3, to determine podium placement and order of closing statements; former President Donald Trump won the coin toss and chose to select the order of statements. The former president will offer the last closing statement, and Vice President Harris selected the right podium position on screen (stage left).

- Candidates will be introduced by the moderators.

- The candidates enter upon introduction from opposite sides of the stage; the incumbent party will be introduced first.

- No opening statements; closing statements will be two minutes per candidate.

- Candidates will stand behind podiums for the duration of the debate.

- Props or prewritten notes are not allowed onstage.

- No topics or questions will be shared in advance with campaigns or candidates.

- Candidates will be given a pen, a pad of paper and a bottle of water.

- Candidates will have two-minute answers to questions, two-minute rebuttals, and one extra minute for follow-ups, clarifications, or responses.

- Candidates' microphones will be live only for the candidate whose turn it is to speak and muted when the time belongs to another candidate.

- Candidates will not be permitted to ask questions of each other.

- Campaign staff may not interact with candidates during commercial breaks.

- Moderators will seek to enforce timing agreements and ensure a civilized discussion.

- There will be no audience in the room.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Republicans who are bothered by the moderators fact checking Trump but not Harris aren't looking at the big picture.

Trump lied about 30 times (possibly more), and was fact-checked about 6 times. So over 20 times he was not fact checked for his lies.

Harris possibly lied a handful of times, maybe as many as 5-6 times. And was not fact checked.

They still let Trump get away with about 3 times as many lies as Harris without fact checking them.

The moderator job is to make sure there is decorum and move questions along not fact check that is what the senators do to each other

Fact checking was specifically agreed upon and allowed at this debate by both campaigns. Don't whine because what they agreed to actually happened. And it's not ABC's fault one of the debate participants can't seem to stop blatantly lying at every turn.

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Anonymous wrote:The Republicans who are bothered by the moderators fact checking Trump but not Harris aren't looking at the big picture.

Trump lied about 30 times (possibly more), and was fact-checked about 6 times. So over 20 times he was not fact checked for his lies.

Harris possibly lied a handful of times, maybe as many as 5-6 times. And was not fact checked.

They still let Trump get away with about 3 times as many lies as Harris without fact checking them.

The moderator job is to make sure there is decorum and move questions along not fact check that is what the debaters do to each other

Actual news organizations are responsible for correcting any complete BS that’s aired on their network.

Yes. FOX is the poster child for that lesson.

But is not a news organization. They described themselves in court as an entertainment channel and not a news organization.

They should no longer be considered a news source. Their material is not journalistic, but opinion and entertainment based. They should not be treated like a news source.

Agree. They have stated that they are for entertainment purposes only.

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Anonymous wrote:The Republicans who are bothered by the moderators fact checking Trump but not Harris aren't looking at the big picture.

Trump lied about 30 times (possibly more), and was fact-checked about 6 times. So over 20 times he was not fact checked for his lies.

Harris possibly lied a handful of times, maybe as many as 5-6 times. And was not fact checked.

They still let Trump get away with about 3 times as many lies as Harris without fact checking them.

The moderator job is to make sure there is decorum and move questions along not fact check that is what the debaters do to each other

Actual news organizations are responsible for correcting any complete BS that’s aired on their network.

Yes. FOX is the poster child for that lesson.

But is not a news organization. They described themselves in court as an entertainment channel and not a news organization.

They should no longer be considered a news source. Their material is not journalistic, but opinion and entertainment based. They should not be treated like a news source.

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Anonymous wrote:The Republicans who are bothered by the moderators fact checking Trump but not Harris aren't looking at the big picture.

Trump lied about 30 times (possibly more), and was fact-checked about 6 times. So over 20 times he was not fact checked for his lies.

Harris possibly lied a handful of times, maybe as many as 5-6 times. And was not fact checked.

They still let Trump get away with about 3 times as many lies as Harris without fact checking them.

The moderator job is to make sure there is decorum and move questions along not fact check that is what the debaters do to each other

Actual news organizations are responsible for correcting any complete BS that’s aired on their network.

Yes. FOX is the poster child for that lesson.

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Anonymous wrote:Whats worse - Harris lying 25 times and not fact checked by the moderators or the moderators fact checking Trump 6 times?

What are the 25 lies?
List them, please.

DP. But then you'll probably prefer the list from the Fox entertainment channel. They have flagged many other "lies" by Harris, although many on their list are not actually lies. But you'll probably believe them that they are.

PBS identified 11 lies by Trump, 3 by Harris
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-the-harris-trump-debate

But there are many others that other news organizations called out.

Anonymous wrote:Whats worse - Harris lying 25 times and not fact checked by the moderators or the moderators fact checking Trump 6 times?

What are the 25 lies?
List them, please.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought they did a great job fact-checking Trump. And, to be fair, a non-existent job of fact checking Harris. And obviously had no interest in pressing her to give a straight answer when she dodged the “do you think voters are better off than they were four years ago?” Question (she doesn’t, but they don’t want to make her SAY that) and when she avoided answering whether she supports limits on abortion in 7th, 8th, 9th month (she doesn’t, but again they don’t want to make her SAY that).

But did anyone think it was weird that they said nothing when she claimed to have been at the Capitol on Jan 6 when she was actually at DNC headquarters???
Why would she say she was there?? And why wouldn’t the moderators correct her in that assertion?

The minder store did not give a hoot if she answered the tough questions. They’re part of her PR team. Their corporate bosses, who have already thrown plenty of cash her way, told them to go easy on their candidate

Work harder, Boris. This is weak stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:The Republicans who are bothered by the moderators fact checking Trump but not Harris aren't looking at the big picture.

Trump lied about 30 times (possibly more), and was fact-checked about 6 times. So over 20 times he was not fact checked for his lies.

Harris possibly lied a handful of times, maybe as many as 5-6 times. And was not fact checked.

They still let Trump get away with about 3 times as many lies as Harris without fact checking them.

The moderator job is to make sure there is decorum and move questions along not fact check that is what the debaters do to each other

Actual news organizations are responsible for correcting any complete BS that’s aired on their network.

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Anonymous wrote:The Republicans who are bothered by the moderators fact checking Trump but not Harris aren't looking at the big picture.

Trump lied about 30 times (possibly more), and was fact-checked about 6 times. So over 20 times he was not fact checked for his lies.

Harris possibly lied a handful of times, maybe as many as 5-6 times. And was not fact checked.

They still let Trump get away with about 3 times as many lies as Harris without fact checking them.

The moderator job is to make sure there is decorum and move questions along not fact check that is what the senators do to each other

Per who?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Republicans who are bothered by the moderators fact checking Trump but not Harris aren't looking at the big picture.

Trump lied about 30 times (possibly more), and was fact-checked about 6 times. So over 20 times he was not fact checked for his lies.

Harris possibly lied a handful of times, maybe as many as 5-6 times. And was not fact checked.

They still let Trump get away with about 3 times as many lies as Harris without fact checking them.

The moderator job is to make sure there is decorum and move questions along not fact check that is what the senators do to each other

Really now? Where did you learn these rules?
And what do senators have to do with this?

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Anonymous wrote:The Republicans who are bothered by the moderators fact checking Trump but not Harris aren't looking at the big picture.

Trump lied about 30 times (possibly more), and was fact-checked about 6 times. So over 20 times he was not fact checked for his lies.

Harris possibly lied a handful of times, maybe as many as 5-6 times. And was not fact checked.

They still let Trump get away with about 3 times as many lies as Harris without fact checking them.

The moderator job is to make sure there is decorum and move questions along not fact check that is what the senators do to each other

Debator not senators

Anonymous wrote:The Republicans who are bothered by the moderators fact checking Trump but not Harris aren't looking at the big picture.

Trump lied about 30 times (possibly more), and was fact-checked about 6 times. So over 20 times he was not fact checked for his lies.

Harris possibly lied a handful of times, maybe as many as 5-6 times. And was not fact checked.

They still let Trump get away with about 3 times as many lies as Harris without fact checking them.

The moderator job is to make sure there is decorum and move questions along not fact check that is what the senators do to each other

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Anonymous wrote:She won for sure. He didn’t do well. Both are true. Also true that the moderators didn’t ask her any real hard questions. They did ask her about fracking and they did ask her about whether she believed in abortion up to 9 month. But she didn’t answer either. She said she signed the tie breaking vote for fracking. That didn’t explain her view. She had a positive day but she skated in a lot of fluff and vibes and smiling teeth and hand motions. Light in substance as always and moderators let her.

Like she said, it’s insulting to women to even ask that question. Of course no one thinks murder infanticide should be legal.

But at what month of pregnancy is it not ok to abort?...

When the fetus is viable.

As medical technology expands, the date of viability goes back further and further though. Right now, a baby that’s 22 weeks old can survive with deep medical intervention.

Some babies have survived birth in the first trimester. So much for a clump of cells

Wait...what??? You honestly believe this?
No baby, anywhere, at any time, has ever survived a delivery at 13 weeks' gestation, which is the end of the first trimester.
Are you a man? How are you honestly THIS clueless about human reproduction??? I'm honestly flabbergasted someone actually believes this is possible.

These are the same type of people who believe the following. Is it any wonder that they believe that a fetus at 13 weeks, whose internal organs are not fully formed or functioning, that's body is still developing, could support life roughly 1/3 of the way through gestation and barely passed the halfway point to medically supportable viability?

“If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

Idaho state Rep. Vito Barbieri asked if a patient could swallow a tiny camera for a gynecological exam?

“In the emergency room they have what’s called rape kits where a woman can get cleaned out.”

“Fear-induced hormonal changes could block a rape victim’s ability to conceive.”

“Granted, the percentage of pregnancies due to rape is small because it’s an act of violence, because the body is traumatized.

“On this contraceptive thing, my gosh it’s [so] inexpensive, You know, back in my days, they used Bayer aspirin for contraception. The gals put it between their knees, and it wasn’t that costly.”

"Watch a sonogram of a 15-week baby, and they have movements that are purposeful. They stroke their face. If they’re a male baby, they may have their hand between their legs. If they feel pleasure, why is it so hard to think that they could feel pain?"

"He’s partly right on that. … It is true. We tell infertile couples all the time that are having trouble conceiving because of the woman not ovulating, 'Just relax. Drink a glass of wine. And don’t be so tense and uptight, because all that adrenaline can cause you not to ovulate.' So he was partially right wasn’t he? … And yet the media took that and tore it apart."

“The facts show that people who are raped — who are truly raped — the juices don’t flow, the body functions don’t work and they don’t get pregnant.

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Anonymous wrote:germany weighs in with their own fact check

The Germans don’t like Trump and his lies either, and he is one of them.

Germans learned from their mistakes and know an authoritarian when they see one. They have zero tolerance for his clown act.