Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 12:46     Subject: Re:Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of blue states supporting red states. I am fine paying more taxes to make the world more liveable, to ensure national security, climate, abortion rights and education. I hate that red states benefit more from taxes than blue states, and yet refuse to support democrats because 'taxes.' who do they think pays for medicare, medicaid, their SSDI benefits, and other programs?


Then again pitting people against each other over federal income taxes is a great way to hide the fact that our corporations are making a killing, with ceos making in the 10s, ,100s of millions a year and not paying their share of taxes. Like, if corporations actually paid anywhere near the corporate tax rate we could cut taxes for individuals and increase spending. SO Harris increasing corporate tax rate is whatever, what really needs to happen is to enforce the tax laws that already exist.

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0512/how-large-corporations-get-around-paying-less-in-taxes.aspx



You realize this is misleading and only because of social security and Medicare, right? It’s because old people move to red states to retire.


Not quite.

“Contractors notwithstanding, we found that nothing predicts a state’s receipts from the federal government better than its share of working-age adults with disabilities. Lower rates of education, higher rates of poverty, fewer patent filings and more employment in the industry that includes dollar stores also tend to be related to receiving more money from the feds.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/07/07/states-federal-benefits/


Are arguing that folks are flocking to Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi, Alaska, Kentucky and West Virginia for retirement?
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 12:37     Subject: Re:Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of blue states supporting red states. I am fine paying more taxes to make the world more liveable, to ensure national security, climate, abortion rights and education. I hate that red states benefit more from taxes than blue states, and yet refuse to support democrats because 'taxes.' who do they think pays for medicare, medicaid, their SSDI benefits, and other programs?


Then again pitting people against each other over federal income taxes is a great way to hide the fact that our corporations are making a killing, with ceos making in the 10s, ,100s of millions a year and not paying their share of taxes. Like, if corporations actually paid anywhere near the corporate tax rate we could cut taxes for individuals and increase spending. SO Harris increasing corporate tax rate is whatever, what really needs to happen is to enforce the tax laws that already exist.

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0512/how-large-corporations-get-around-paying-less-in-taxes.aspx



You should read the Dem plan. There are several proposals to address the issues in your second paragraph beyond just raising the corporate tax rate.

“ Because the vice president supports the Biden budget’s tax hikes, Ms. Harris has also endorsed raising a tax on stock buybacks to 4 percent from 1 percent. Democrats first approved the stock buyback tax in 2022 as part of the Inflation Reduction Act. The legislation also requires big companies to pay taxes worth at least 15 percent of the income they report to investors. The goal of the new minimum tax is to curb companies’ ability to use deductions and tax credits to shrink their tax liability to as low as zero. Mr. Biden’s budget — and now Ms. Harris’s presidential campaign — calls for increasing that minimum tax to 21 percent from 15 percent.

In his budget, Mr. Biden also put out an overhaul of how multinational companies’ foreign earnings are taxed in the United States. The goal is to bring the United States into compliance with an international agreement that aims to stop companies moving into low-tax jurisdictions to avoid paying taxes. Mr. Biden’s budget calls for increasing and reorganizing a global minimum tax. Under the plan, the tax would be assessed on income in each individual country where the company operates, rather than on its global profits overall. The rate would double to 21 percent from 10.5 percent.

The budget Ms. Harris has now adopted also disallows companies from deducting the compensation of all employees making more than $1 million.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/us/politics/kamala-harris-tax-plan.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb



I’m sure this will all be great for the economy.


So we should just continue what we are doing, with a growing wealth gap and deficit? Because trickle down economics have worked so well?

Also, reminder: the economy is not the stock market.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 12:34     Subject: Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:This is what is wrong, IMO. DH and I are taxed out of half of our paychecks, while billionaires pay nothing! This is how, no matter the party, they screw us in the middle. Half of my paycheck is going to taxes, and no, it is not ok when the millionaires and billionaires pay nothing.
And then, I had to pay full in-state tuition for my kids, who did not even qualify for any aid from BCS. We don't earn that little, but we sure could not afford full rides, either. If my kids were allowed to take student loans, they would have been forgiven now. But they were not allowed to have that option.
No, it is not better for me under republicans because it is all the same for me, no relief ever. I don't qualify for any housing aid, meal programs, or student financial aid, but I sure can't afford an SFH that is the median price for the DMV.


You are not in the middle if you’re affected by this tax increase. Lord have mercy.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 12:00     Subject: Re:Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of blue states supporting red states. I am fine paying more taxes to make the world more liveable, to ensure national security, climate, abortion rights and education. I hate that red states benefit more from taxes than blue states, and yet refuse to support democrats because 'taxes.' who do they think pays for medicare, medicaid, their SSDI benefits, and other programs?


Then again pitting people against each other over federal income taxes is a great way to hide the fact that our corporations are making a killing, with ceos making in the 10s, ,100s of millions a year and not paying their share of taxes. Like, if corporations actually paid anywhere near the corporate tax rate we could cut taxes for individuals and increase spending. SO Harris increasing corporate tax rate is whatever, what really needs to happen is to enforce the tax laws that already exist.

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0512/how-large-corporations-get-around-paying-less-in-taxes.aspx



You realize this is misleading and only because of social security and Medicare, right? It’s because old people move to red states to retire.


Yeah, all of those old people moving to Mississippi and Arkansas.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 11:58     Subject: Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I will vote red because of this, much as I despise the Republican social platforms. I have worked too hard for my money to support the party which seeks to take even more of it.

-High earner


We will also be voting red because of this as well.


“Because of this.” These measures will likely increase your tax bill by less than 1 percent of your total income. I don’t doubt you are voting red but it’s not because of this.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 11:57     Subject: Re:Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of blue states supporting red states. I am fine paying more taxes to make the world more liveable, to ensure national security, climate, abortion rights and education. I hate that red states benefit more from taxes than blue states, and yet refuse to support democrats because 'taxes.' who do they think pays for medicare, medicaid, their SSDI benefits, and other programs?


Then again pitting people against each other over federal income taxes is a great way to hide the fact that our corporations are making a killing, with ceos making in the 10s, ,100s of millions a year and not paying their share of taxes. Like, if corporations actually paid anywhere near the corporate tax rate we could cut taxes for individuals and increase spending. SO Harris increasing corporate tax rate is whatever, what really needs to happen is to enforce the tax laws that already exist.

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0512/how-large-corporations-get-around-paying-less-in-taxes.aspx



You should read the Dem plan. There are several proposals to address the issues in your second paragraph beyond just raising the corporate tax rate.

“ Because the vice president supports the Biden budget’s tax hikes, Ms. Harris has also endorsed raising a tax on stock buybacks to 4 percent from 1 percent. Democrats first approved the stock buyback tax in 2022 as part of the Inflation Reduction Act. The legislation also requires big companies to pay taxes worth at least 15 percent of the income they report to investors. The goal of the new minimum tax is to curb companies’ ability to use deductions and tax credits to shrink their tax liability to as low as zero. Mr. Biden’s budget — and now Ms. Harris’s presidential campaign — calls for increasing that minimum tax to 21 percent from 15 percent.

In his budget, Mr. Biden also put out an overhaul of how multinational companies’ foreign earnings are taxed in the United States. The goal is to bring the United States into compliance with an international agreement that aims to stop companies moving into low-tax jurisdictions to avoid paying taxes. Mr. Biden’s budget calls for increasing and reorganizing a global minimum tax. Under the plan, the tax would be assessed on income in each individual country where the company operates, rather than on its global profits overall. The rate would double to 21 percent from 10.5 percent.

The budget Ms. Harris has now adopted also disallows companies from deducting the compensation of all employees making more than $1 million.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/us/politics/kamala-harris-tax-plan.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb



I’m sure this will all be great for the economy.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 11:56     Subject: Re:Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of blue states supporting red states. I am fine paying more taxes to make the world more liveable, to ensure national security, climate, abortion rights and education. I hate that red states benefit more from taxes than blue states, and yet refuse to support democrats because 'taxes.' who do they think pays for medicare, medicaid, their SSDI benefits, and other programs?


Then again pitting people against each other over federal income taxes is a great way to hide the fact that our corporations are making a killing, with ceos making in the 10s, ,100s of millions a year and not paying their share of taxes. Like, if corporations actually paid anywhere near the corporate tax rate we could cut taxes for individuals and increase spending. SO Harris increasing corporate tax rate is whatever, what really needs to happen is to enforce the tax laws that already exist.

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0512/how-large-corporations-get-around-paying-less-in-taxes.aspx



You realize this is misleading and only because of social security and Medicare, right? It’s because old people move to red states to retire.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 11:36     Subject: Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I will vote red because of this, much as I despise the Republican social platforms. I have worked too hard for my money to support the party which seeks to take even more of it.

-High earner


We will also be voting red because of this as well.


Sure you will. Of course you would rather let the Trump tax cuts to the middle class expire rather than paying a penny more in taxes. History is so kind to those who want to gut the middle class.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 11:35     Subject: Re:Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:I'm tired of blue states supporting red states. I am fine paying more taxes to make the world more liveable, to ensure national security, climate, abortion rights and education. I hate that red states benefit more from taxes than blue states, and yet refuse to support democrats because 'taxes.' who do they think pays for medicare, medicaid, their SSDI benefits, and other programs?


Then again pitting people against each other over federal income taxes is a great way to hide the fact that our corporations are making a killing, with ceos making in the 10s, ,100s of millions a year and not paying their share of taxes. Like, if corporations actually paid anywhere near the corporate tax rate we could cut taxes for individuals and increase spending. SO Harris increasing corporate tax rate is whatever, what really needs to happen is to enforce the tax laws that already exist.

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0512/how-large-corporations-get-around-paying-less-in-taxes.aspx



You should read the Dem plan. There are several proposals to address the issues in your second paragraph beyond just raising the corporate tax rate.

“ Because the vice president supports the Biden budget’s tax hikes, Ms. Harris has also endorsed raising a tax on stock buybacks to 4 percent from 1 percent. Democrats first approved the stock buyback tax in 2022 as part of the Inflation Reduction Act. The legislation also requires big companies to pay taxes worth at least 15 percent of the income they report to investors. The goal of the new minimum tax is to curb companies’ ability to use deductions and tax credits to shrink their tax liability to as low as zero. Mr. Biden’s budget — and now Ms. Harris’s presidential campaign — calls for increasing that minimum tax to 21 percent from 15 percent.

In his budget, Mr. Biden also put out an overhaul of how multinational companies’ foreign earnings are taxed in the United States. The goal is to bring the United States into compliance with an international agreement that aims to stop companies moving into low-tax jurisdictions to avoid paying taxes. Mr. Biden’s budget calls for increasing and reorganizing a global minimum tax. Under the plan, the tax would be assessed on income in each individual country where the company operates, rather than on its global profits overall. The rate would double to 21 percent from 10.5 percent.

The budget Ms. Harris has now adopted also disallows companies from deducting the compensation of all employees making more than $1 million.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/22/us/politics/kamala-harris-tax-plan.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 11:32     Subject: Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:I will vote red because of this, much as I despise the Republican social platforms. I have worked too hard for my money to support the party which seeks to take even more of it.

-High earner


We will also be voting red because of this as well.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 11:21     Subject: Re:Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

I'm tired of blue states supporting red states. I am fine paying more taxes to make the world more liveable, to ensure national security, climate, abortion rights and education. I hate that red states benefit more from taxes than blue states, and yet refuse to support democrats because 'taxes.' who do they think pays for medicare, medicaid, their SSDI benefits, and other programs?


Then again pitting people against each other over federal income taxes is a great way to hide the fact that our corporations are making a killing, with ceos making in the 10s, ,100s of millions a year and not paying their share of taxes. Like, if corporations actually paid anywhere near the corporate tax rate we could cut taxes for individuals and increase spending. SO Harris increasing corporate tax rate is whatever, what really needs to happen is to enforce the tax laws that already exist.

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0512/how-large-corporations-get-around-paying-less-in-taxes.aspx

Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 11:13     Subject: Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m okay with some increase in taxes designed to reduce the deficit, but not to increase spending.

-Registered Dem who has gotten a lot more fiscally conservative in her middle age. Plus, I care about my kids future


So this means you are ok with current government spending?


Current spending is bec of republicans idiot

Every republican administration since the beginning has added more to the national debt than any dem do your home work

House of reps clowns have been in office wasting taxpayer dollars they have done shit why are they paid for gods sake every republican voted against border security hell Hawley in the Senate has voted 6 times in four years to reelect that do nothing shit is just dumb these records are public
Comer and his band of do nothings has cost us millions in taxpayer monies for what?..

This is at the federal level

Waste of money in Audits from election deniers also in the millions GA WI paid over three times for stupid audits that don the con fundraising machine got millions for but he knew those monies where not allots pay for those audits you morons paid twice or three times !

Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 10:48     Subject: Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:I’m okay with some increase in taxes designed to reduce the deficit, but not to increase spending.

-Registered Dem who has gotten a lot more fiscally conservative in her middle age. Plus, I care about my kids future


So this means you are ok with current government spending?
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 10:47     Subject: Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here “libs should send money” PP, try this and show us where you would make cuts, so we can see where your priorities lie.

https://fiscalship.org/


LOL, that reminds me of lame corporate training.

Have you sent in your check to the Treasury yet?



You can’t do it can you? Because once you cut taxes, it’s actually hard to also cut spending on the things that will balance the budget. Cutting programs for poor people and arts programs won’t get you there - you also need to cut spending republicans traditionally support.

Yes, I sent my check to the Treasury. Did you? If not, stop complaining about the debt or deficit. Clearly it doesn’t really matter to you.
Anonymous
Post 08/25/2024 09:35     Subject: Harris tax plan - raising taxes on high earners

Anonymous wrote:I’m okay with some increase in taxes designed to reduce the deficit, but not to increase spending.

-Registered Dem who has gotten a lot more fiscally conservative in her middle age. Plus, I care about my kids future


How I feel but unfortunately when you give your money away it doesn't usually go where you want it to