Anonymous
09/16/2024 09:05
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How will ECNL respond? They need to shrink - cut teams and make it even more competitive, because the college opportunities won’t be there. But they won’t.
There is no problem here. No reason to take any action -- for anyone. Yes the rosters have to get smaller for some small number of schools. We are taling about 30-40 slots maybe at best.
Another dozen or so girls were de committed from their schools this week. The 28 roster cap is having a big impact.
Link? List?
proof?
I don't think there is an ongoing list but if you follow the active soccer recruiting X accounts you'll see that its been pretty active lately with girls posting that they've been decommitted.
I think you would have to stalk many individual kids X accounts to know this. The clubs aren't posting that You must know one kid that decommitted and now you are making unrealistic sweeping generalizations. There is truely no way to know this unless you know the names and accounts of more than 5000 soccer players.
Did not mean individual players, accounts like ImCollegeSoccer or ImYouthSoccer both actively post information regarding recruiting.
Anonymous
09/16/2024 09:03
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How will ECNL respond? They need to shrink - cut teams and make it even more competitive, because the college opportunities won’t be there. But they won’t.
There is no problem here. No reason to take any action -- for anyone. Yes the rosters have to get smaller for some small number of schools. We are taling about 30-40 slots maybe at best.
Another dozen or so girls were de committed from their schools this week. The 28 roster cap is having a big impact.
Link? List?
proof?
I don't think there is an ongoing list but if you follow the active soccer recruiting X accounts you'll see that its been pretty active lately with girls posting that they've been decommitted.
I think you would have to stalk many individual kids X accounts to know this. The clubs aren't posting that You must know one kid that decommitted and now you are making unrealistic sweeping generalizations. There is truely no way to know this unless you know the names and accounts of more than 5000 soccer players.
Anonymous
09/16/2024 08:57
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How will ECNL respond? They need to shrink - cut teams and make it even more competitive, because the college opportunities won’t be there. But they won’t.
There is no problem here. No reason to take any action -- for anyone. Yes the rosters have to get smaller for some small number of schools. We are taling about 30-40 slots maybe at best.
Another dozen or so girls were de committed from their schools this week. The 28 roster cap is having a big impact.
Link? List?
proof?
I don't think there is an ongoing list but if you follow the active soccer recruiting X accounts you'll see that its been pretty active lately with girls posting that they've been decommitted.
Anonymous
09/16/2024 08:54
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How will ECNL respond? They need to shrink - cut teams and make it even more competitive, because the college opportunities won’t be there. But they won’t.
There is no problem here. No reason to take any action -- for anyone. Yes the rosters have to get smaller for some small number of schools. We are taling about 30-40 slots maybe at best.
Another dozen or so girls were de committed from their schools this week. The 28 roster cap is having a big impact.
Link? List?
proof?
Anonymous
09/16/2024 08:53
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This should have impact on ivies too. But even though this year is hard, isn’t it better to have a realistic roster size?
Does the number include redshirts?
Ivy coach told my son he’s working to reduce roster size from 34 to 28.
Doesn't apply to IVY - they dont have 28 scholarships.
Anonymous
09/16/2024 08:53
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:I am sorry for the kids who’ve worked so hard for so many years who may not have the opportunity to play, or have to start at a juco or something.
Of course they can play. Even a roster size of 28 is larger than a lot of schools current rosters. There are over 300 D1 schools.
There is room for 10,000 incoming freshman.
Anonymous
09/16/2024 08:51
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How will ECNL respond? They need to shrink - cut teams and make it even more competitive, because the college opportunities won’t be there. But they won’t.
There is no problem here. No reason to take any action -- for anyone. Yes the rosters have to get smaller for some small number of schools. We are taling about 30-40 slots maybe at best.
Another dozen or so girls were de committed from their schools this week. The 28 roster cap is having a big impact.
No they weren't -stop creating false drama.
Anonymous
09/16/2024 08:44
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
I would think the big cut comes between Sophomore and Junior years. That’s when coaches will have had an opportunity to get to know the kids and their abilities. And, the kids will need to assess whether they can keep up; is the playing time worth the work? And, academically they will be at the point where class scheduling gets much harder.
Averages probably will look like 9 freshmen, 8 sophomores, 6 juniors, 5 seniors. And lots of redshirts.
Averages probably will look like 9 freshmen, 8 sophomores, 6 juniors, 5 seniors. And lots of redshirts.
Anonymous
09/15/2024 16:00
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
I am sorry for the kids who’ve worked so hard for so many years who may not have the opportunity to play, or have to start at a juco or something.
Anonymous
09/15/2024 12:23
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:This should have impact on ivies too. But even though this year is hard, isn’t it better to have a realistic roster size?
Does the number include redshirts?
Ivy coach told my son he’s working to reduce roster size from 34 to 28.
Anonymous
09/15/2024 12:00
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
This should have impact on ivies too. But even though this year is hard, isn’t it better to have a realistic roster size?
Does the number include redshirts?
Does the number include redshirts?
Anonymous
09/15/2024 11:00
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How will ECNL respond? They need to shrink - cut teams and make it even more competitive, because the college opportunities won’t be there. But they won’t.
There is no problem here. No reason to take any action -- for anyone. Yes the rosters have to get smaller for some small number of schools. We are taling about 30-40 slots maybe at best.
Another dozen or so girls were de committed from their schools this week. The 28 roster cap is having a big impact.
Anonymous
09/10/2024 15:43
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NWSL just hired people for working with / defining Youth to Pro player pathways.
https://x.com/JeffKassouf/status/1832058341654401170?t=o410D0FTU4T7xIIzzcHHlA&s=19
If anything happens with college soccer NWSL is positioning to address.
UMD’s women’s team had a 2M annual budget. On what planet can NWSL teams afford to replicate that?
In the world where NCAA continues to lose court cases and colleges eventually get forced to pay student athletes for their services. The second this happens several colleges will drop college women's and men's soccer. Maybe some will keep it around but that will be a choice made by the school. Also the schools will need to decide if they want to win or just compete because how much you pay players will determine how competitive the team is.
NWSL and all the pro leagues are watching what happens with NCAA and will capitalize on the changes. Maybe it will include a clearly defined player pathway and associated amateur league (NWSL Next). Maybe clubs will just throw 500k at the top college players in signing bonuses to pull them out of college before graduation.
Either way NWSL is positioning for a world where NCAA + college socver might not exist in the form it's setup as today.
College soccer will exist. Maybe the people who play that want to go pro will not go to college. But most people playing soccer want to play in college just like LAX, Field Hockey, Softball. There is a product there. It will not go anywhere.
This. Title IX will still exist and to fortunes being spent on football will have to be balanced. Mens none revenue may be dead, but women's should flourish
Will exist as D3s do, no athletic scholarship.
Scholarships used to be the only way to pay college athletes.That’s no longer the case. NIL and direct revenue sharing which are also part of the new ncaa rules along with limited roster sizes.
The college system is changing and it’s impossible to know how it all shakes out. But a few things are certain. College sports are not going away and there is more money going into the system than ever before.
This is an unrealistic expectation, if this was real, all current pro soccer players would be rich. They are not. A few ones that are popular and have millionaire contacts, but that is a few ones.
There was a story a while ago about NIL deals at UNC. The basketball and football players were doing well for themselves. One of the most decorated collegiate field hockey players every had two deals. One for free sticks that were better than what the team was using and another for two meals a week at a cafe. I think soccer players are ending up in that sphere
Anonymous
09/10/2024 14:44
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:NWSL just hired people for working with / defining Youth to Pro player pathways.
https://x.com/JeffKassouf/status/1832058341654401170?t=o410D0FTU4T7xIIzzcHHlA&s=19
If anything happens with college soccer NWSL is positioning to address.
UMD’s women’s team had a 2M annual budget. On what planet can NWSL teams afford to replicate that?
In the world where NCAA continues to lose court cases and colleges eventually get forced to pay student athletes for their services. The second this happens several colleges will drop college women's and men's soccer. Maybe some will keep it around but that will be a choice made by the school. Also the schools will need to decide if they want to win or just compete because how much you pay players will determine how competitive the team is.
NWSL and all the pro leagues are watching what happens with NCAA and will capitalize on the changes. Maybe it will include a clearly defined player pathway and associated amateur league (NWSL Next). Maybe clubs will just throw 500k at the top college players in signing bonuses to pull them out of college before graduation.
Either way NWSL is positioning for a world where NCAA + college socver might not exist in the form it's setup as today.
College soccer will exist. Maybe the people who play that want to go pro will not go to college. But most people playing soccer want to play in college just like LAX, Field Hockey, Softball. There is a product there. It will not go anywhere.
This. Title IX will still exist and to fortunes being spent on football will have to be balanced. Mens none revenue may be dead, but women's should flourish
Will exist as D3s do, no athletic scholarship.
Scholarships used to be the only way to pay college athletes.That’s no longer the case. NIL and direct revenue sharing which are also part of the new ncaa rules along with limited roster sizes.
The college system is changing and it’s impossible to know how it all shakes out. But a few things are certain. College sports are not going away and there is more money going into the system than ever before.
This is an unrealistic expectation, if this was real, all current pro soccer players would be rich. They are not. A few ones that are popular and have millionaire contacts, but that is a few ones.
Anonymous
09/10/2024 10:09
Subject: 28 Rosters Spots/28 Scholarships for NCAA Women's Soccer
Anonymous wrote:Title IX is good in theory but in practice it hasn't lived up to what it was meant to do.
https://www.on3.com/nil/news/boise-state-legal-expert-sam-ehrlich-ncaa-using-title-ix-as-hostage-in-nil-reform/
That concerns legislation that will never pass. Meanwhile https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2024/oregon-title-ix-lawsuit-nil-1234786960/ is winding it's way and others will follow.