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Anonymous wrote:Is she a type 2 diabetic? Ozempic is a diabetes drug.

Wegovy is the same medicine for weight loss.

Distinction without difference.

Exactly - what a tool

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Anonymous wrote:It increases your risk of pancreatic cancer which is one of the most aggressive forms of cancer. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11096-023-01556-2

You know that being morbidly obese puts you at risk of all kinds of cancers and heart disease right??????? GFC

Yes we know that’s the obligatory retort to every study that says these drugs are dangerous

There arent' any studies that say 'these drugs are dangerous'. BTW these drugs have been in use for nearly 2 decades. But there are many many studies that show that obesity puts you at risk of many cancers, heart disease and other comorbidities that kill often.

But op’s dd isn’t obese.

DP. How is she not obese? She is my height and size 8-10. I am 53 and size 0 or 2 at best, and I have extra weight on my tummy and legs. Size 8-10 is obese, not morbidly obese, but I think people do not realize what the threshold for being obese is.

Seek professional guidance, you absolute loon.

Go check a bmi calculator. The poster is probably wrong - an 8-10 isn’t obese BUT it is overweight. I’m a 10 in size and my height, I am not only overweight, but I’m 3 lbs away from being classified as obese…AND 22 lbs from the highest normal non overweight category there is. AND, if I lost 44 lbs, I’d still be considered normal weight for my BMI. An 8-10 on sz is clinically overweight.

No, clothing size is not a measure of weight or BMI or the definition of obese. Nonsense. An underweight person with a large chest might be a size 10, as might a low average person with wide hips or wide shoulders, or a rounder butt.

Of course clothing sizes doesn’t equal BMI. And of course BMI is an inaccurate assessment BUT it is the current assessment we have and a 10 is generally overweight.

- signed a 10 who is big chested and still overweight

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.
Reporting back. My daughter (who is 18) started on Ozempic and in 6 weeks she's lost about 18 pounds.
Her weight has dropped from 155 to 138. Her clothing size from a 10 to a 6. (She's 5'4")

She looks and feels fantastic. She's now going on a maintenance phase and is being followed by her pediatrician.

This is a super active teen who was eating an incredibly clean diet and consistently gaining weight from ages 15-18. She literally dropped 5 pounds in the first week. No real diet changes as she was eating clean to begin with.

This is such a sad post. You have just opened the door yo-yo dieting.

Very sad. And OP clearly has passed along her disotorted views about weight and how fat and unattractive she thought her daughter was and how weight loss is making her finally move towards being fantastic. Why stop now? I am sure the daughter can lose another 20 on the drugs and OP can praise for her becoming even more attractive. Maybe they can plan cosmetic surgeries and procdures to try and make her more attractive and fastastic too.

At 5'4 "and 140 lbs, unless she's lifting and muscular, she probably has well over 30% body fat, which means she probably carries around too much visceral fat, which is objectively a big health risk. At 18, a healthy girl has around 15-20% body fat.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.
Reporting back. My daughter (who is 18) started on Ozempic and in 6 weeks she's lost about 18 pounds.
Her weight has dropped from 155 to 138. Her clothing size from a 10 to a 6. (She's 5'4")

She looks and feels fantastic. She's now going on a maintenance phase and is being followed by her pediatrician.

This is a super active teen who was eating an incredibly clean diet and consistently gaining weight from ages 15-18. She literally dropped 5 pounds in the first week. No real diet changes as she was eating clean to begin with.

This is such a sad post. You have just opened the door yo-yo dieting.

Very sad. And OP clearly has passed along her disotorted views about weight and how fat and unattractive she thought her daughter was and how weight loss is making her finally move towards being fantastic. Why stop now? I am sure the daughter can lose another 20 on the drugs and OP can praise for her becoming even more attractive. Maybe they can plan cosmetic surgeries and procdures to try and make her more attractive and fastastic too.

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Anonymous wrote:It increases your risk of pancreatic cancer which is one of the most aggressive forms of cancer. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11096-023-01556-2

You know that being morbidly obese puts you at risk of all kinds of cancers and heart disease right??????? GFC

Yes we know that’s the obligatory retort to every study that says these drugs are dangerous

There arent' any studies that say 'these drugs are dangerous'. BTW these drugs have been in use for nearly 2 decades. But there are many many studies that show that obesity puts you at risk of many cancers, heart disease and other comorbidities that kill often.

But op’s dd isn’t obese.

DP. How is she not obese? She is my height and size 8-10. I am 53 and size 0 or 2 at best, and I have extra weight on my tummy and legs. Size 8-10 is obese, not morbidly obese, but I think people do not realize what the threshold for being obese is.

Seek professional guidance, you absolute loon.

Go check a bmi calculator. The poster is probably wrong - an 8-10 isn’t obese BUT it is overweight. I’m a 10 in size and my height, I am not only overweight, but I’m 3 lbs away from being classified as obese…AND 22 lbs from the highest normal non overweight category there is. AND, if I lost 44 lbs, I’d still be considered normal weight for my BMI. An 8-10 on sz is clinically overweight.

No, clothing size is not a measure of weight or BMI or the definition of obese. Nonsense. An underweight person with a large chest might be a size 10, as might a low average person with wide hips or wide shoulders, or a rounder butt.

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Reporting back. My daughter (who is 18) started on Ozempic and in 6 weeks she's lost about 18 pounds.
Her weight has dropped from 155 to 138. Her clothing size from a 10 to a 6. (She's 5'4")

She looks and feels fantastic. She's now going on a maintenance phase and is being followed by her pediatrician.

This is a super active teen who was eating an incredibly clean diet and consistently gaining weight from ages 15-18. She literally dropped 5 pounds in the first week. No real diet changes as she was eating clean to begin with.

This is such a sad post. You have just opened the door yo-yo dieting.

Yes. The side effects are overstated and misunderstood. They aren't specific to the medication, but the result of weight loss: when you lose weight, you also lose lean muscle, resulting in a lower BMR. YOu can mitigate this by eating a high-protein diet while on a semaglutide. If you go through a reputable provider, they will educate your daughter on all of this.

You could also get a comprehensive blood test to check for other factors that are making it hard for her to lose weight if she's on a good diet and exercise routine. For example, any issues with her thyroid? Does she have PCOS?

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Anonymous wrote:She's a size 8/10. I would heavily discourage this. I'd encourage her to focus on strength and being fit, NOT THIN. Thin does not equal healthy.

It sounds like she should discuss this with a therapist who can help with body dysmorphia.

maybe she wants to be attractive, not just “healthy”.

Sure. And the vast majority of 18 year-olds should be able to lose 10-2o pounds with a little discipline. It is much harder for women in their 40's and 50's.

you guys seem to have forgotten how many of us had disorderd eating if we were truly honest with ourselves to be the desired thinnes in teh 1990s and 2000s. The trend ios towards that style of thin again. being at the gym for 2 hours a day, having half a smoothy and basically stretching how long you could stay hungry for large stretche sof time was TOTALYY normal eating behavior for everyone i knew back then except my one friend- we were looking at pictures and she was a perfectly normal size, not even overweight but wasnt kate moss tiny and so she thought she was fat. jyst teh otehr day we taking about how lucky she was that she didnt develop an eating disorder. taking wegovy to lose thirty pounds until teh trend cycles back around to normal sized people is ok. These medicatins bring down inflammation as well. why is it better to just force yourslef to get used to feeling hungry all the time? which is the only other option to being the kind of skinny is back in fashion.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I would let her. Being overweight is an incredible burden and can impact her marriage prospects considerably.

Her bmi is normal. She isn’t overweight

BMI is 25 and change.
5'4" and high 140s weight.

I'd do it b/c she's in the best place to take care of herself right now and this is her set point BEFORE any eventual pregnancies/birth control hormones/ career of working 70 hours a week kicks in. Ideally she couldwork with a trainer and get her measurments down to a 24 inch waistline b/c that waist line with muscle is the best place, it doenst matter how much you weigh, its more how much visceral fat you have for disease but if she cant do that without a medication there is nothing wrong with going on the medication.

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Anonymous wrote:And expense is another issue. No insurance will cover this so she is looking at an extra 500-1200 a month!

I don’t understand how an 18 yo has that money and why you would sign her up for this lifetime expense.

Have your teenagers not had summer jobs? My kids have made $3-5K/summer beginning at age 15. DC minimum wage is $17.50/hour.

Yes, they do. But it does not sound like you are very smart about money if you think it’s in any normal or healthy for a teen to work all summer for ozempic.

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Anonymous wrote:It increases your risk of pancreatic cancer which is one of the most aggressive forms of cancer. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11096-023-01556-2

You know that being morbidly obese puts you at risk of all kinds of cancers and heart disease right??????? GFC

Yes we know that’s the obligatory retort to every study that says these drugs are dangerous

There arent' any studies that say 'these drugs are dangerous'. BTW these drugs have been in use for nearly 2 decades. But there are many many studies that show that obesity puts you at risk of many cancers, heart disease and other comorbidities that kill often.

But op’s dd isn’t obese.

DP. How is she not obese? She is my height and size 8-10. I am 53 and size 0 or 2 at best, and I have extra weight on my tummy and legs. Size 8-10 is obese, not morbidly obese, but I think people do not realize what the threshold for being obese is.

Seek professional guidance, you absolute loon.

Go check a bmi calculator. The poster is probably wrong - an 8-10 isn’t obese BUT it is overweight. I’m a 10 in size and my height, I am not only overweight, but I’m 3 lbs away from being classified as obese…AND 22 lbs from the highest normal non overweight category there is. AND, if I lost 44 lbs, I’d still be considered normal weight for my BMI. An 8-10 on sz is clinically overweight.

No. I am a middle aged woman who could probably benefit from these drugs and I am hesitant because of the potential long term consequences. Look at the people on Biggest Loser and how they screwed up their metabolism. These drugs are a lifetime commitment.

She is young and a healthy weight that she can manage. Take the money and get a trainer, get a dietitian, aka learn some lifelong skills in how to manage weight and body composition.