Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 14:21     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
They've gone from a party that was rooted in the working class to a party that has the appearance of an hourglass, with a lot of upscale voters and upper-middle class professionals, and a lot of voters who are not that well off, including a considerable number of minorities. But what's missing is a lot of what used to be the middle of the party, which is blue-collar workers, primarily white, Midwestern, and Southern.

https://time.com/6332506/democrats-2024-activist-left-elections/

Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 14:17     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
But on the issue of maternity leave, 84 percent of the public approve of a federal requirement that employers provide paid maternity leave, paced by 94 percent support from Democrats, 83 percent from Independents and 73 percent from Republicans. Increased federal funding for child care is supported by 75 percent of the public, including overwhelming support from Democrats and Independents but also majority support from Republicans.


Most Americans including Republicans supoort progressive economic not social policies .

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/03/27/majority-of-americans-support-progressive-policies-such-as-paid-maternity-leave-free-college.html
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 14:16     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
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Anonymous wrote:I think the left loses Catholics when it talks about abortion instead of being pro worker pro family. The working classCatholic Dems used to be the life blood of the party


Catholics get abortions at the same rate as other groups.


Catholic vote is key . Too much talk about abortion this year will hurt Democrats chances. Come up with something else on the to do list /drawing board

In 2016, Donald Trump won 50 percent of Catholics compared to Hillary Clinton’s 46 percent. In 2020, Biden bested Trump among all Catholics, 52 percent to 47 percent.



🤣 You are hilarious


This isn’t hilarious. This is serious.

Dems once again showing their penchant for not being able to listen


Listen…to some rando on the internet?

What if they listen to Ohio where 57% of voters went in favor of a constitutional amendment to protect abortion rights?

What if they listen to Kentucky where 53% rejected a constitutional amendment that would have removed the right to abortion?

What if they listen to the brave women who testified last month in Texas?

Or are you saying listening to you is more important?


53% and 57% aren’t mandates you dolt.

What about the 70% of Americans that support Medicare for All?

What about the 73% of Republican voters that support free universal early child-care programs?

What about the 77% of Americans who overwhelmingly favor making public college and university tuition free for all qualified American students?

What about the 83% of Americans who support raising the federal minimum wage which is still $7.25 and not a living wage ?



Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 14:12     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.


Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).


Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.


You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.


Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.


Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.


You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?


Hahaha 😆 that's funny.






Might be funny, but it is true.


But the definition of crimes have changed as we are no longer punishing or reporting people the same way for certain crimes. It hasn’t been apples to apples over the years especially recently.


Exactly, if you think crime has decreased please go ask the working class (many hispanics) whose tires were recently slashed in Falls Church. That's a crime.

Go ask the many who have been carjacked in broad daylight. That's a crime.

Go ask the families of children gunned down in broad daylight if crime is down.


No one said there was no crime. Humans are going to commit crimes, it is, uh, human nature.

But crime is down in the last 3 years, it is a provable statistic, even if your anecdotal evidence is contrary.


Then there is no need for more gun control.


Why?
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 14:11     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.


Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).


Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.


You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.


Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.


Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.


You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?


Hahaha 😆 that's funny.






Might be funny, but it is true.


But the definition of crimes have changed as we are no longer punishing or reporting people the same way for certain crimes. It hasn’t been apples to apples over the years especially recently.


Exactly, if you think crime has decreased please go ask the working class (many hispanics) whose tires were recently slashed in Falls Church. That's a crime.

Go ask the many who have been carjacked in broad daylight. That's a crime.

Go ask the families of children gunned down in broad daylight if crime is down.


No one said there was no crime. Humans are going to commit crimes, it is, uh, human nature.

But crime is down in the last 3 years, it is a provable statistic, even if your anecdotal evidence is contrary.


Then there is no need for more gun control.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 14:05     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the left loses Catholics when it talks about abortion instead of being pro worker pro family. The working classCatholic Dems used to be the life blood of the party


Catholics get abortions at the same rate as other groups.


Catholic vote is key . Too much talk about abortion this year will hurt Democrats chances. Come up with something else on the to do list /drawing board

In 2016, Donald Trump won 50 percent of Catholics compared to Hillary Clinton’s 46 percent. In 2020, Biden bested Trump among all Catholics, 52 percent to 47 percent.



🤣 You are hilarious


This isn’t hilarious. This is serious.

Dems once again showing their penchant for not being able to listen


Listen…to some rando on the internet?

What if they listen to Ohio where 57% of voters went in favor of a constitutional amendment to protect abortion rights?

What if they listen to Kentucky where 53% rejected a constitutional amendment that would have removed the right to abortion?

What if they listen to the brave women who testified last month in Texas?

Or are you saying listening to you is more important?


MAGAs are grasping at straws to try to convince Democrats to hurt themselves since they know Trump is a felon and an incoherent dumpster fire and can't win unless his opponent is in cognitive decline.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 13:58     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the left loses Catholics when it talks about abortion instead of being pro worker pro family. The working classCatholic Dems used to be the life blood of the party


Catholics get abortions at the same rate as other groups.


Catholic vote is key . Too much talk about abortion this year will hurt Democrats chances. Come up with something else on the to do list /drawing board

In 2016, Donald Trump won 50 percent of Catholics compared to Hillary Clinton’s 46 percent. In 2020, Biden bested Trump among all Catholics, 52 percent to 47 percent.



🤣 You are hilarious


This isn’t hilarious. This is serious.

Dems once again showing their penchant for not being able to listen


Listen…to some rando on the internet?

What if they listen to Ohio where 57% of voters went in favor of a constitutional amendment to protect abortion rights?

What if they listen to Kentucky where 53% rejected a constitutional amendment that would have removed the right to abortion?

What if they listen to the brave women who testified last month in Texas?

Or are you saying listening to you is more important?
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 13:56     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
At the convention *
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 13:56     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
Dems have pretty much handed populism to Trump . He had union leaders speaking for him at the RNC. That’s bad!

How are union leaders endorsing Republicans now? It makes no sense .
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 13:55     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the left loses Catholics when it talks about abortion instead of being pro worker pro family. The working classCatholic Dems used to be the life blood of the party


Catholics get abortions at the same rate as other groups.


Catholic vote is key . Too much talk about abortion this year will hurt Democrats chances. Come up with something else on the to do list /drawing board

In 2016, Donald Trump won 50 percent of Catholics compared to Hillary Clinton’s 46 percent. In 2020, Biden bested Trump among all Catholics, 52 percent to 47 percent.



🤣 You are hilarious


This isn’t hilarious. This is serious.

Dems once again showing their penchant for not being able to listen
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 13:49     Subject: Re:What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
They are still there. The problem is maga makes them look like communists.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 13:39     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think the left loses Catholics when it talks about abortion instead of being pro worker pro family. The working classCatholic Dems used to be the life blood of the party


Catholics get abortions at the same rate as other groups.


Catholic vote is key . Too much talk about abortion this year will hurt Democrats chances. Come up with something else on the to do list /drawing board

In 2016, Donald Trump won 50 percent of Catholics compared to Hillary Clinton’s 46 percent. In 2020, Biden bested Trump among all Catholics, 52 percent to 47 percent.



🤣 You are hilarious
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 13:39     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.


Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).


Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.


You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.


Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.


Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.


You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?


Yeah right. What a lie.


I posted two independent sources showing my work. Please show me where crime is up under Biden.


Of course it isn't. This is more GOP fiction despite having to pay out billions for the fakenews about the 2020 eledction that they knowingly spread.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 13:38     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.


Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).


Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.


You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.


Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.


Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.


You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?


Hahaha 😆 that's funny.






Might be funny, but it is true.


But the definition of crimes have changed as we are no longer punishing or reporting people the same way for certain crimes. It hasn’t been apples to apples over the years especially recently.


Exactly, if you think crime has decreased please go ask the working class (many hispanics) whose tires were recently slashed in Falls Church. That's a crime.

Go ask the many who have been carjacked in broad daylight. That's a crime.

Go ask the families of children gunned down in broad daylight if crime is down.


No one said there was no crime. Humans are going to commit crimes, it is, uh, human nature.

But crime is down in the last 3 years, it is a provable statistic, even if your anecdotal evidence is contrary.
Anonymous
Post 07/22/2024 13:37     Subject: What happened to the Moderate Dem or Rep??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Both sides, you guys.

I know all you moderates are truly convinced you’re the smartest, most rational people ever, but you’re slowly boiling to death in a fire started by the GOP and you’re mad at the people noticing it’s getting hot. You’re not rational, you’re not moderate.

I could go on, but you “common sense” people are over sensitive and under thinking.


Haha. I also think people who throw the terms “left wing” and “progressive” as insults truly no idea what those terms originally means.

Left wing stems from the fact that those who use to represent interests of the labor class sat on ten left hand spire of the room. Progressive just means a desire for progressive in positive change.

I am proudly a progressive left winger and hope the D party doesn’t die a slow death of “being moderate” (ie fraction of the party that thinks we are all good and no change needed).


Democrats have abandoned labor and support the desires of the laptop class.

You will have literally nothing to back this up with. Meanwhile the GOP actually hates labor and the working class, really anything that gives regular people any rights at all, they’re opposed to it.


You can’t be pro-labor and support open borders. Open borders are a disaster for the working classes.


Nobody supports open borders. This is just GOP fiction.


Crime statistics beg to differ with your partisan misinformation, PP.


You mean the crime that is down significantly since Trump left office?


Yeah right. What a lie.


I posted two independent sources showing my work. Please show me where crime is up under Biden.