Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, how many teachers are leaving your school next year? At my ES there is 10 that we know of so far. Im wondering if the shortage situation is going to be better or worse than last year for the county.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids never do anything wrong. Look at the kid who is suing the school for not giving him what he needs.
He gave a teacher a concussion and sent her to the hospital and is suing the school for not stopping him.
The teacher is always to blame (did you make sure they were challenged? Did you make sure he felt secure? Etc).

The situation in Newport News is what happens when you have the trifecta of an unsupportive parent, unsupportive principal, and bad policy. The parent tried to go on national tv and put blame on her because “her son felt ignored” and he has adhd. This is an extreme example, but these behavioral situations are not as rare as we would like to think. Teachers only take 2 or 3 base level psychology classes when they are in college. The behavioral and therapy work that these kids need is far out of our scope of practice but they still end up in our rooms.

+1. I'll add that if a kid is in 5th grade and one teacher between K-5 claims the kid needs a more restrictive placement due to behaviors, it really might not be a great personality match with the kid and that teacher. If a kid is in 5th grade and every teacher since kindergarten has said the same thing, the teachers aren't wrong. It's negligent for schools to gaslight teachers and insinuate it's a failure of classroom management when the same thing has happened with multiple teachers over the years.
Also, there should be a zero tolerance policy for physical assault or threats of physical assault toward staff, especially at the secondary level. That should go to the hearings office the first time it happens with OSS in the meantime. If it's a manifestation of the child's disability, they need to be in a classroom with a crisis response team on constant standby.

I'm an early primary teacher and I think there needs to be a zero tolerance policy towards even our youngest students regarding being physically aggressive with staff or threatening them. Students who do that need more support than can be had in the gen Ed room. Kids who make threats or hit, kick, etc staff members? That should trigger an immediate move to a behavioral sped room. Such students can either learn to self regulate there and then return to gen Ed after a period of time OR they can be diagnosed and treated and if they truly cannot self regulate themselves then great, in the behavior room they stay. I'm sorry, I don't care if they are 5. I've had 5 year olds threaten me and it is no fun wondering if today is the day they actually bring in a weapon. It happens.

How old was the kid who shot his teacher in Norfolk? Kindergarten?

First Grade and he was 6 years old

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Anonymous wrote:The kids never do anything wrong. Look at the kid who is suing the school for not giving him what he needs.
He gave a teacher a concussion and sent her to the hospital and is suing the school for not stopping him.
The teacher is always to blame (did you make sure they were challenged? Did you make sure he felt secure? Etc).

The situation in Newport News is what happens when you have the trifecta of an unsupportive parent, unsupportive principal, and bad policy. The parent tried to go on national tv and put blame on her because “her son felt ignored” and he has adhd. This is an extreme example, but these behavioral situations are not as rare as we would like to think. Teachers only take 2 or 3 base level psychology classes when they are in college. The behavioral and therapy work that these kids need is far out of our scope of practice but they still end up in our rooms.

+1. I'll add that if a kid is in 5th grade and one teacher between K-5 claims the kid needs a more restrictive placement due to behaviors, it really might not be a great personality match with the kid and that teacher. If a kid is in 5th grade and every teacher since kindergarten has said the same thing, the teachers aren't wrong. It's negligent for schools to gaslight teachers and insinuate it's a failure of classroom management when the same thing has happened with multiple teachers over the years.
Also, there should be a zero tolerance policy for physical assault or threats of physical assault toward staff, especially at the secondary level. That should go to the hearings office the first time it happens with OSS in the meantime. If it's a manifestation of the child's disability, they need to be in a classroom with a crisis response team on constant standby.

I'm an early primary teacher and I think there needs to be a zero tolerance policy towards even our youngest students regarding being physically aggressive with staff or threatening them. Students who do that need more support than can be had in the gen Ed room. Kids who make threats or hit, kick, etc staff members? That should trigger an immediate move to a behavioral sped room. Such students can either learn to self regulate there and then return to gen Ed after a period of time OR they can be diagnosed and treated and if they truly cannot self regulate themselves then great, in the behavior room they stay. I'm sorry, I don't care if they are 5. I've had 5 year olds threaten me and it is no fun wondering if today is the day they actually bring in a weapon. It happens.

How old was the kid who shot his teacher in Norfolk? Kindergarten?

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Anonymous wrote:The kids never do anything wrong. Look at the kid who is suing the school for not giving him what he needs.
He gave a teacher a concussion and sent her to the hospital and is suing the school for not stopping him.
The teacher is always to blame (did you make sure they were challenged? Did you make sure he felt secure? Etc).

The situation in Newport News is what happens when you have the trifecta of an unsupportive parent, unsupportive principal, and bad policy. The parent tried to go on national tv and put blame on her because “her son felt ignored” and he has adhd. This is an extreme example, but these behavioral situations are not as rare as we would like to think. Teachers only take 2 or 3 base level psychology classes when they are in college. The behavioral and therapy work that these kids need is far out of our scope of practice but they still end up in our rooms.

+1. I'll add that if a kid is in 5th grade and one teacher between K-5 claims the kid needs a more restrictive placement due to behaviors, it really might not be a great personality match with the kid and that teacher. If a kid is in 5th grade and every teacher since kindergarten has said the same thing, the teachers aren't wrong. It's negligent for schools to gaslight teachers and insinuate it's a failure of classroom management when the same thing has happened with multiple teachers over the years.
Also, there should be a zero tolerance policy for physical assault or threats of physical assault toward staff, especially at the secondary level. That should go to the hearings office the first time it happens with OSS in the meantime. If it's a manifestation of the child's disability, they need to be in a classroom with a crisis response team on constant standby.

I'm an early primary teacher and I think there needs to be a zero tolerance policy towards even our youngest students regarding being physically aggressive with staff or threatening them. Students who do that need more support than can be had in the gen Ed room. Kids who make threats or hit, kick, etc staff members? That should trigger an immediate move to a behavioral sped room. Such students can either learn to self regulate there and then return to gen Ed after a period of time OR they can be diagnosed and treated and if they truly cannot self regulate themselves then great, in the behavior room they stay. I'm sorry, I don't care if they are 5. I've had 5 year olds threaten me and it is no fun wondering if today is the day they actually bring in a weapon. It happens.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d love to see the teachers who love teaching—and are good at it—but hate the nonsense throw in together and start up alternatives.
Something like Fairfax Collegiate but offered September-mid June.
No unnecessary administration or paperwork, steady schedules that make sense, no expectation or need to tolerate disrespect.

It’s the future of effective education.

Yay, more exclusionary private schools for the privileged few!

I agree with you that the neoliberal/ progressive democrats are ruining public schools, increasing the market for private education.
Only the working class and poor will be left in the schools they run.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids never do anything wrong. Look at the kid who is suing the school for not giving him what he needs.
He gave a teacher a concussion and sent her to the hospital and is suing the school for not stopping him.
The teacher is always to blame (did you make sure they were challenged? Did you make sure he felt secure? Etc).

The situation in Newport News is what happens when you have the trifecta of an unsupportive parent, unsupportive principal, and bad policy. The parent tried to go on national tv and put blame on her because “her son felt ignored” and he has adhd. This is an extreme example, but these behavioral situations are not as rare as we would like to think. Teachers only take 2 or 3 base level psychology classes when they are in college. The behavioral and therapy work that these kids need is far out of our scope of practice but they still end up in our rooms.

+1. I'll add that if a kid is in 5th grade and one teacher between K-5 claims the kid needs a more restrictive placement due to behaviors, it really might not be a great personality match with the kid and that teacher. If a kid is in 5th grade and every teacher since kindergarten has said the same thing, the teachers aren't wrong. It's negligent for schools to gaslight teachers and insinuate it's a failure of classroom management when the same thing has happened with multiple teachers over the years.
Also, there should be a zero tolerance policy for physical assault or threats of physical assault toward staff, especially at the secondary level. That should go to the hearings office the first time it happens with OSS in the meantime. If it's a manifestation of the child's disability, they need to be in a classroom with a crisis response team on constant standby.

I'm an early primary teacher and I think there needs to be a zero tolerance policy towards even our youngest students regarding being physically aggressive with staff or threatening them. Students who do that need more support than can be had in the gen Ed room. Kids who make threats or hit, kick, etc staff members? That should trigger an immediate move to a behavioral sped room. Such students can either learn to self regulate there and then return to gen Ed after a period of time OR they can be diagnosed and treated and if they truly cannot self regulate themselves then great, in the behavior room they stay. I'm sorry, I don't care if they are 5. I've had 5 year olds threaten me and it is no fun wondering if today is the day they actually bring in a weapon. It happens.

Anonymous wrote:I would like to add, while there are many behavior issues that are severe, most of us are just dealing with nonstop talking, disrespect and apathy. That is something that is taught at home and I often find that many parents would be shocked how their kid acted at school. Even the so called good kids.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids never do anything wrong. Look at the kid who is suing the school for not giving him what he needs.
He gave a teacher a concussion and sent her to the hospital and is suing the school for not stopping him.
The teacher is always to blame (did you make sure they were challenged? Did you make sure he felt secure? Etc).

The situation in Newport News is what happens when you have the trifecta of an unsupportive parent, unsupportive principal, and bad policy. The parent tried to go on national tv and put blame on her because “her son felt ignored” and he has adhd. This is an extreme example, but these behavioral situations are not as rare as we would like to think. Teachers only take 2 or 3 base level psychology classes when they are in college. The behavioral and therapy work that these kids need is far out of our scope of practice but they still end up in our rooms.

+1. I'll add that if a kid is in 5th grade and one teacher between K-5 claims the kid needs a more restrictive placement due to behaviors, it really might not be a great personality match with the kid and that teacher. If a kid is in 5th grade and every teacher since kindergarten has said the same thing, the teachers aren't wrong. It's negligent for schools to gaslight teachers and insinuate it's a failure of classroom management when the same thing has happened with multiple teachers over the years.
Also, there should be a zero tolerance policy for physical assault or threats of physical assault toward staff, especially at the secondary level. That should go to the hearings office the first time it happens with OSS in the meantime. If it's a manifestation of the child's disability, they need to be in a classroom with a crisis response team on constant standby.

I'm an early primary teacher and I think there needs to be a zero tolerance policy towards even our youngest students regarding being physically aggressive with staff or threatening them. Students who do that need more support than can be had in the gen Ed room. Kids who make threats or hit, kick, etc staff members? That should trigger an immediate move to a behavioral sped room. Such students can either learn to self regulate there and then return to gen Ed after a period of time OR they can be diagnosed and treated and if they truly cannot self regulate themselves then great, in the behavior room they stay. I'm sorry, I don't care if they are 5. I've had 5 year olds threaten me and it is no fun wondering if today is the day they actually bring in a weapon. It happens.

Yup. And I had an admin say well what do you want me to do....ummm the child is destroying my room kicking me and scratching my IA and screaming non-stop for 25 minutes-do something anything so I can teach all the other students I have. I'm tired of these students and their parents ruining the school day for everyone. No one wants to teach like this anymore because you know what it's not teaching and the other students are not learning.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids never do anything wrong. Look at the kid who is suing the school for not giving him what he needs.
He gave a teacher a concussion and sent her to the hospital and is suing the school for not stopping him.
The teacher is always to blame (did you make sure they were challenged? Did you make sure he felt secure? Etc).

The situation in Newport News is what happens when you have the trifecta of an unsupportive parent, unsupportive principal, and bad policy. The parent tried to go on national tv and put blame on her because “her son felt ignored” and he has adhd. This is an extreme example, but these behavioral situations are not as rare as we would like to think. Teachers only take 2 or 3 base level psychology classes when they are in college. The behavioral and therapy work that these kids need is far out of our scope of practice but they still end up in our rooms.

+1. I'll add that if a kid is in 5th grade and one teacher between K-5 claims the kid needs a more restrictive placement due to behaviors, it really might not be a great personality match with the kid and that teacher. If a kid is in 5th grade and every teacher since kindergarten has said the same thing, the teachers aren't wrong. It's negligent for schools to gaslight teachers and insinuate it's a failure of classroom management when the same thing has happened with multiple teachers over the years.
Also, there should be a zero tolerance policy for physical assault or threats of physical assault toward staff, especially at the secondary level. That should go to the hearings office the first time it happens with OSS in the meantime. If it's a manifestation of the child's disability, they need to be in a classroom with a crisis response team on constant standby.

I'm an early primary teacher and I think there needs to be a zero tolerance policy towards even our youngest students regarding being physically aggressive with staff or threatening them. Students who do that need more support than can be had in the gen Ed room. Kids who make threats or hit, kick, etc staff members? That should trigger an immediate move to a behavioral sped room. Such students can either learn to self regulate there and then return to gen Ed after a period of time OR they can be diagnosed and treated and if they truly cannot self regulate themselves then great, in the behavior room they stay. I'm sorry, I don't care if they are 5. I've had 5 year olds threaten me and it is no fun wondering if today is the day they actually bring in a weapon. It happens.

Yup. And I had an admin say well what do you want me to do....ummm the child is destroying my room kicking me and scratching my IA and screaming non-stop for 25 minutes-do something anything so I can teach all the other students I have. I'm tired of these students and their parents ruining the school day for everyone. No one wants to teach like this anymore because you know what it's not teaching and the other students are not learning.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids never do anything wrong. Look at the kid who is suing the school for not giving him what he needs.
He gave a teacher a concussion and sent her to the hospital and is suing the school for not stopping him.
The teacher is always to blame (did you make sure they were challenged? Did you make sure he felt secure? Etc).

The situation in Newport News is what happens when you have the trifecta of an unsupportive parent, unsupportive principal, and bad policy. The parent tried to go on national tv and put blame on her because “her son felt ignored” and he has adhd. This is an extreme example, but these behavioral situations are not as rare as we would like to think. Teachers only take 2 or 3 base level psychology classes when they are in college. The behavioral and therapy work that these kids need is far out of our scope of practice but they still end up in our rooms.

+1. I'll add that if a kid is in 5th grade and one teacher between K-5 claims the kid needs a more restrictive placement due to behaviors, it really might not be a great personality match with the kid and that teacher. If a kid is in 5th grade and every teacher since kindergarten has said the same thing, the teachers aren't wrong. It's negligent for schools to gaslight teachers and insinuate it's a failure of classroom management when the same thing has happened with multiple teachers over the years.
Also, there should be a zero tolerance policy for physical assault or threats of physical assault toward staff, especially at the secondary level. That should go to the hearings office the first time it happens with OSS in the meantime. If it's a manifestation of the child's disability, they need to be in a classroom with a crisis response team on constant standby.

I'm an early primary teacher and I think there needs to be a zero tolerance policy towards even our youngest students regarding being physically aggressive with staff or threatening them. Students who do that need more support than can be had in the gen Ed room. Kids who make threats or hit, kick, etc staff members? That should trigger an immediate move to a behavioral sped room. Such students can either learn to self regulate there and then return to gen Ed after a period of time OR they can be diagnosed and treated and if they truly cannot self regulate themselves then great, in the behavior room they stay. I'm sorry, I don't care if they are 5. I've had 5 year olds threaten me and it is no fun wondering if today is the day they actually bring in a weapon. It happens.

Anonymous wrote:My struggle as a gen ed teacher is the LRE. I understand the laws in Virginia and I understand that we want these kids to be with general ed peers as much as possible. But in my case, I have kids who don’t benefit from being thrown into the gen ed class during academic times and it can be very disturbing/traumatic for the other students. At our school, we have several high need sped kids in one classroom and it is very difficult. They have one IA with them trying to support while the teacher is teaching.

And central office continues to take SPED positions away from schools because they don’t understand the real needs.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d love to see the teachers who love teaching—and are good at it—but hate the nonsense throw in together and start up alternatives.
Something like Fairfax Collegiate but offered September-mid June.
No unnecessary administration or paperwork, steady schedules that make sense, no expectation or need to tolerate disrespect.

It’s the future of effective education.

Yay, more exclusionary private schools for the privileged few!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The kids never do anything wrong. Look at the kid who is suing the school for not giving him what he needs.
He gave a teacher a concussion and sent her to the hospital and is suing the school for not stopping him.
The teacher is always to blame (did you make sure they were challenged? Did you make sure he felt secure? Etc).

The situation in Newport News is what happens when you have the trifecta of an unsupportive parent, unsupportive principal, and bad policy. The parent tried to go on national tv and put blame on her because “her son felt ignored” and he has adhd. This is an extreme example, but these behavioral situations are not as rare as we would like to think. Teachers only take 2 or 3 base level psychology classes when they are in college. The behavioral and therapy work that these kids need is far out of our scope of practice but they still end up in our rooms.

Yes!!! This year I feel that I am not just a teacher. I need to be a therapist and SPED teacher and I’m not!!! Even my “adjusted” kids have very high emotional needs that I don’t always know what to do with.

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Anonymous wrote:The kids never do anything wrong. Look at the kid who is suing the school for not giving him what he needs.
He gave a teacher a concussion and sent her to the hospital and is suing the school for not stopping him.
The teacher is always to blame (did you make sure they were challenged? Did you make sure he felt secure? Etc).

The situation in Newport News is what happens when you have the trifecta of an unsupportive parent, unsupportive principal, and bad policy. The parent tried to go on national tv and put blame on her because “her son felt ignored” and he has adhd. This is an extreme example, but these behavioral situations are not as rare as we would like to think. Teachers only take 2 or 3 base level psychology classes when they are in college. The behavioral and therapy work that these kids need is far out of our scope of practice but they still end up in our rooms.

+1. I'll add that if a kid is in 5th grade and one teacher between K-5 claims the kid needs a more restrictive placement due to behaviors, it really might not be a great personality match with the kid and that teacher. If a kid is in 5th grade and every teacher since kindergarten has said the same thing, the teachers aren't wrong. It's negligent for schools to gaslight teachers and insinuate it's a failure of classroom management when the same thing has happened with multiple teachers over the years.
Also, there should be a zero tolerance policy for physical assault or threats of physical assault toward staff, especially at the secondary level. That should go to the hearings office the first time it happens with OSS in the meantime. If it's a manifestation of the child's disability, they need to be in a classroom with a crisis response team on constant standby.