at most coed schools, the top of the class is nowadays mostly girls. sure there are exceptions. but overall girls tend to perform better at school at this age. that is not all bad. but people want their sons during prime developmental years to also be confident in their abilities and motivated such that they are working hard and maybe you can find that at a challenging all-boys high school environment.

Anonymous wrote:And I mentioned that the first, who is already graduated, has sisters and went to co-ed school outside those 4 years, did not have any problems transitioning to college or adulting.

sisters close in age would certainly help offset some of the cons.

And I mentioned that the first, who is already graduated, has sisters and went to co-ed school outside those 4 years, did not have any problems transitioning to college or adulting.

I also had my experience with my boys who are also single sex HS.

Also excellent experience!!

The arguments coming from parents in favor of all-boys catholic schools seem to boil down to "my kid went/is going, likes it, and seems to be well-adjusted" and "my kid has actually been exposed to some activities there that aren't traditionally reserved for boys."

The arguments coming from parents against all-boys catholic schools include "all/most segregation is bad," "children I've observed in these schools exist in an amplified manosphere/sexist world," and "a school that lacks gender diversity wouldn't prepare my child adequately for the real world."

These are all important considerations for parents to take into account in choosing a school -- the pros & cons that were requested by the OP. There's no need for anyone to get upset about other parents' arguments, otherwise what's the point of a conversation forum.

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Anonymous wrote:Two sons in all-boys Catholic schools- one graduated and one still attending.

Wonderful experience for both of them. Went to public elementary/middle and the oldest went to co-ed college. No problems adjusting.

I know the question was about boys schools. Will give some perspective about all-girls for my daughters. They could not have had a better experience and went to T10 co-ed colleges.


There is data supporting single sex for girls. Both have STEM degrees and the 4 years of high school allowed them to develop confidence and find their voice, which I do not think would have happened in a co-ed environment for them.

Why do you think that wouldn't have happened in one of the best high schools in the country, which are coed?

Because they went to school with boys from K-8 and are quiet. Boys don’t listen to girls. That starts early. Instead of arguing, my girls stopped engaging.

4 years with smart peers who didn’t talk over them and ignore them has them the confidence to speak their mind by the time they went to college.

The data supports single sex education for girls and my family’s experience aligns with those facts.

It was transformative.

The data i have seen shows some support for girls. The same data showed that coed is better for boys. This thread is about all boys schools.

A coed open admissions public school is definitely better for boys vs all-boys same. In terms of highly-curated/elite private schools, it’s more or a case-by-case.

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Anonymous wrote:Two sons in all-boys Catholic schools- one graduated and one still attending.

Wonderful experience for both of them. Went to public elementary/middle and the oldest went to co-ed college. No problems adjusting.

I know the question was about boys schools. Will give some perspective about all-girls for my daughters. They could not have had a better experience and went to T10 co-ed colleges.


There is data supporting single sex for girls. Both have STEM degrees and the 4 years of high school allowed them to develop confidence and find their voice, which I do not think would have happened in a co-ed environment for them.

Why do you think that wouldn't have happened in one of the best high schools in the country, which are coed?

Because they went to school with boys from K-8 and are quiet. Boys don’t listen to girls. That starts early. Instead of arguing, my girls stopped engaging.

4 years with smart peers who didn’t talk over them and ignore them has them the confidence to speak their mind by the time they went to college.

The data supports single sex education for girls and my family’s experience aligns with those facts.

It was transformative.

The data i have seen shows some support for girls. The same data showed that coed is better for boys. This thread is about all boys schools.

Well the data I’ve seen shows some support for boys. You sound like someone who didn’t have a good experience at an all boys school and had difficulty connecting with females because of it. Sorry that happened to you but that’s not everyone’s experience. Everyone is different.

everyone is different, I'm assuming that's why the thread was created. We are discussing pros and cons. The pros are coming from the schools themselves (at least partly) that need to say they are better for survival. Seems this isn't a fair discussion and that is exactly what they want. There have been legitimate questions asked on this thread that were ignored or attacked. They were ignored/ attacked because the answers will prove the cons. These cons are mild. Hit the thread with pros, not just my kids fine.

The pros are coming from the schools? Give me a break. Believe it or not actual parents have provided pros but you just didn't want to hear them in this troll post designed to trash Catholics and Catholic schools. If you only wanted cons from people who have no experience maybe should have been more upfront about your ulterior motive.

you are twisting words, the poster said at least partly coming from the schools. I'll see myself out now.

Sorry you weren't able to find anyone to take the bait.

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Anonymous wrote:Two sons in all-boys Catholic schools- one graduated and one still attending.

Wonderful experience for both of them. Went to public elementary/middle and the oldest went to co-ed college. No problems adjusting.

I know the question was about boys schools. Will give some perspective about all-girls for my daughters. They could not have had a better experience and went to T10 co-ed colleges.


There is data supporting single sex for girls. Both have STEM degrees and the 4 years of high school allowed them to develop confidence and find their voice, which I do not think would have happened in a co-ed environment for them.

Why do you think that wouldn't have happened in one of the best high schools in the country, which are coed?

Because they went to school with boys from K-8 and are quiet. Boys don’t listen to girls. That starts early. Instead of arguing, my girls stopped engaging.

4 years with smart peers who didn’t talk over them and ignore them has them the confidence to speak their mind by the time they went to college.

The data supports single sex education for girls and my family’s experience aligns with those facts.

It was transformative.

The data i have seen shows some support for girls. The same data showed that coed is better for boys. This thread is about all boys schools.

Well the data I’ve seen shows some support for boys. You sound like someone who didn’t have a good experience at an all boys school and had difficulty connecting with females because of it. Sorry that happened to you but that’s not everyone’s experience. Everyone is different.

everyone is different, I'm assuming that's why the thread was created. We are discussing pros and cons. The pros are coming from the schools themselves (at least partly) that need to say they are better for survival. Seems this isn't a fair discussion and that is exactly what they want. There have been legitimate questions asked on this thread that were ignored or attacked. They were ignored/ attacked because the answers will prove the cons. These cons are mild. Hit the thread with pros, not just my kids fine.

The pros are coming from the schools? Give me a break. Believe it or not actual parents have provided pros but you just didn't want to hear them in this troll post designed to trash Catholics and Catholic schools. If you only wanted cons from people who have no experience maybe should have been more upfront about your ulterior motive.

you are twisting words, the poster said at least partly coming from the schools. I'll see myself out now.

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Anonymous wrote:Two sons in all-boys Catholic schools- one graduated and one still attending.

Wonderful experience for both of them. Went to public elementary/middle and the oldest went to co-ed college. No problems adjusting.

I know the question was about boys schools. Will give some perspective about all-girls for my daughters. They could not have had a better experience and went to T10 co-ed colleges.


There is data supporting single sex for girls. Both have STEM degrees and the 4 years of high school allowed them to develop confidence and find their voice, which I do not think would have happened in a co-ed environment for them.

Why do you think that wouldn't have happened in one of the best high schools in the country, which are coed?

Because they went to school with boys from K-8 and are quiet. Boys don’t listen to girls. That starts early. Instead of arguing, my girls stopped engaging.

4 years with smart peers who didn’t talk over them and ignore them has them the confidence to speak their mind by the time they went to college.

The data supports single sex education for girls and my family’s experience aligns with those facts.

It was transformative.

The data i have seen shows some support for girls. The same data showed that coed is better for boys. This thread is about all boys schools.

Well the data I’ve seen shows some support for boys. You sound like someone who didn’t have a good experience at an all boys school and had difficulty connecting with females because of it. Sorry that happened to you but that’s not everyone’s experience. Everyone is different.

everyone is different, I'm assuming that's why the thread was created. We are discussing pros and cons. The pros are coming from the schools themselves (at least partly) that need to say they are better for survival. Seems this isn't a fair discussion and that is exactly what they want. There have been legitimate questions asked on this thread that were ignored or attacked. They were ignored/ attacked because the answers will prove the cons. These cons are mild. Hit the thread with pros, not just my kids fine.

The pros are coming from the schools? Give me a break. Believe it or not actual parents have provided pros but you just didn't want to hear them in this troll post designed to trash Catholics and Catholic schools. If you only wanted cons from people who have no experience maybe should have been more upfront about your ulterior motive.

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Anonymous wrote:Two sons in all-boys Catholic schools- one graduated and one still attending.

Wonderful experience for both of them. Went to public elementary/middle and the oldest went to co-ed college. No problems adjusting.

I know the question was about boys schools. Will give some perspective about all-girls for my daughters. They could not have had a better experience and went to T10 co-ed colleges.


There is data supporting single sex for girls. Both have STEM degrees and the 4 years of high school allowed them to develop confidence and find their voice, which I do not think would have happened in a co-ed environment for them.

Why do you think that wouldn't have happened in one of the best high schools in the country, which are coed?

Because they went to school with boys from K-8 and are quiet. Boys don’t listen to girls. That starts early. Instead of arguing, my girls stopped engaging.

4 years with smart peers who didn’t talk over them and ignore them has them the confidence to speak their mind by the time they went to college.

The data supports single sex education for girls and my family’s experience aligns with those facts.

It was transformative.

The data i have seen shows some support for girls. The same data showed that coed is better for boys. This thread is about all boys schools.

Well the data I’ve seen shows some support for boys. You sound like someone who didn’t have a good experience at an all boys school and had difficulty connecting with females because of it. Sorry that happened to you but that’s not everyone’s experience. Everyone is different.

everyone is different, I'm assuming that's why the thread was created. We are discussing pros and cons. The pros are coming from the schools themselves (at least partly) that need to say they are better for survival. Seems this isn't a fair discussion and that is exactly what they want. There have been legitimate questions asked on this thread that were ignored or attacked. They were ignored/ attacked because the answers will prove the cons. These cons are mild. Hit the thread with pros, not just my kids fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Two sons in all-boys Catholic schools- one graduated and one still attending.

Wonderful experience for both of them. Went to public elementary/middle and the oldest went to co-ed college. No problems adjusting.

I know the question was about boys schools. Will give some perspective about all-girls for my daughters. They could not have had a better experience and went to T10 co-ed colleges.


There is data supporting single sex for girls. Both have STEM degrees and the 4 years of high school allowed them to develop confidence and find their voice, which I do not think would have happened in a co-ed environment for them.

Why do you think that wouldn't have happened in one of the best high schools in the country, which are coed?

Because they went to school with boys from K-8 and are quiet. Boys don’t listen to girls. That starts early. Instead of arguing, my girls stopped engaging.

4 years with smart peers who didn’t talk over them and ignore them has them the confidence to speak their mind by the time they went to college.

The data supports single sex education for girls and my family’s experience aligns with those facts.

It was transformative.

The data i have seen shows some support for girls. The same data showed that coed is better for boys. This thread is about all boys schools.

Well the data I’ve seen shows some support for boys. You sound like someone who didn’t have a good experience at an all boys school and had difficulty connecting with females because of it. Sorry that happened to you but that’s not everyone’s experience. Everyone is different.

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Anonymous wrote:Two sons in all-boys Catholic schools- one graduated and one still attending.

Wonderful experience for both of them. Went to public elementary/middle and the oldest went to co-ed college. No problems adjusting.

I know the question was about boys schools. Will give some perspective about all-girls for my daughters. They could not have had a better experience and went to T10 co-ed colleges.


There is data supporting single sex for girls. Both have STEM degrees and the 4 years of high school allowed them to develop confidence and find their voice, which I do not think would have happened in a co-ed environment for them.

Why do you think that wouldn't have happened in one of the best high schools in the country, which are coed?

Because they went to school with boys from K-8 and are quiet. Boys don’t listen to girls. That starts early. Instead of arguing, my girls stopped engaging.

4 years with smart peers who didn’t talk over them and ignore them has them the confidence to speak their mind by the time they went to college.

The data supports single sex education for girls and my family’s experience aligns with those facts.

It was transformative.

The data i have seen shows some support for girls. The same data showed that coed is better for boys. This thread is about all boys schools.

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As a rule of thumb, segregation of any kind is rarely a good idea, no matter segregation of race, gender, religion, financial tier, language or culture etc., it creates otherness and makes it difficult to blend later on.

This!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Two sons in all-boys Catholic schools- one graduated and one still attending.

Wonderful experience for both of them. Went to public elementary/middle and the oldest went to co-ed college. No problems adjusting.

I know the question was about boys schools. Will give some perspective about all-girls for my daughters. They could not have had a better experience and went to T10 co-ed colleges.


There is data supporting single sex for girls. Both have STEM degrees and the 4 years of high school allowed them to develop confidence and find their voice, which I do not think would have happened in a co-ed environment for them.

Why do you think that wouldn't have happened in one of the best high schools in the country, which are coed?

Because they went to school with boys from K-8 and are quiet. Boys don’t listen to girls. That starts early. Instead of arguing, my girls stopped engaging.

4 years with smart peers who didn’t talk over them and ignore them has them the confidence to speak their mind by the time they went to college.

The data supports single sex education for girls and my family’s experience aligns with those facts.

It was transformative.

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Anonymous wrote:Two sons in all-boys Catholic schools- one graduated and one still attending.

Wonderful experience for both of them. Went to public elementary/middle and the oldest went to co-ed college. No problems adjusting.

I know the question was about boys schools. Will give some perspective about all-girls for my daughters. They could not have had a better experience and went to T10 co-ed colleges.


There is data supporting single sex for girls. Both have STEM degrees and the 4 years of high school allowed them to develop confidence and find their voice, which I do not think would have happened in a co-ed environment for them.

Why do you think that wouldn't have happened in one of the best high schools in the country, which are coed?

DP: who knows and who cares? The point is they enjoyed school and thrived where they chose to go.