Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only way to get a handle on this is “mass incarceration” of “juvenile offenders”—here meaning up to age 26 evidently—and this will never, ever happen. DC government has no interest in protecting crime victims, those in positions of authority on such matters care only about the offenders. This is not going to change anytime soon.
This is stupid. First, a mass incarceration of juvenile offenders until the age of 26 would be wickedly expensive and DC taxpayers would foot the bill. Second, it would do nothing to change criminal behavior and likely worsen an already bad situation. Numerous studies cite negative long-term effects of incarcertaion that include depression, substance use, homelessness, and loss of economic productivity. These have both direct financial and societal costs to DC and other communities.
Well, let’s just think about this 50 car incident. If you assume an average $500 repair bill for each window, that’s $25k, and then each car owner is looking at at least a few hours of wasted time to get the car fixed, the insurance companies have administrative costs, etc. This incident imposed significant economic losses on the community that could have been avoided if the offender had been locked up. Now imagine the massive economic losses associated with our ongoing crime wave. And spare me the pro-criminal “negative effects of incarceration” “studies” performed by decarceration advocates, which attribute impacts to incarceration things that really arise from the offender’s dysfunction in the first place. Many of these criminals on net impose vastly more costs on society than the costs of incarcerating them. We, as a society, should not have to tolerate this level of crime.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wrap around services are great to prevent crime, but carjackers, thieves, and those who commit gun crimes need to be prosecuted and imprisoned. How can you justify putting these people back on tbe streets?
+100
Do you like having a gun held in your face? What is wrong with these people who don’t want any consequences for anything?
How did you learn not to commit crime? Was it by being repeatedly incarcerated? Why are you treating these people differently than how you were treated? Society failed these people and you want to punish them because society failed them?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only way to get a handle on this is “mass incarceration” of “juvenile offenders”—here meaning up to age 26 evidently—and this will never, ever happen. DC government has no interest in protecting crime victims, those in positions of authority on such matters care only about the offenders. This is not going to change anytime soon.
This is stupid. First, a mass incarceration of juvenile offenders until the age of 26 would be wickedly expensive and DC taxpayers would foot the bill. Second, it would do nothing to change criminal behavior and likely worsen an already bad situation. Numerous studies cite negative long-term effects of incarcertaion that include depression, substance use, homelessness, and loss of economic productivity. These have both direct financial and societal costs to DC and other communities.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wrap around services are great to prevent crime, but carjackers, thieves, and those who commit gun crimes need to be prosecuted and imprisoned. How can you justify putting these people back on tbe streets?
+100
Do you like having a gun held in your face? What is wrong with these people who don’t want any consequences for anything?
How did you learn not to commit crime? Was it by being repeatedly incarcerated? Why are you treating these people differently than how you were treated? Society failed these people and you want to punish them because society failed them?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wrap around services are great to prevent crime, but carjackers, thieves, and those who commit gun crimes need to be prosecuted and imprisoned. How can you justify putting these people back on tbe streets?
+100
Do you like having a gun held in your face? What is wrong with these people who don’t want any consequences for anything?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From a comment "I have several extremely visible, fingerprints and handprints all over my vehicle and MPD won’t even come out"
So no finger print taking on victim's vehicles. If there were matches and prints in the system.
Police don’t do prints, the disaccredited crime lab would, and even if they were accredited, fingerprints on a car mean absolutely nothing. No prosecutor is going to support any kind of warrant or prosecution based on car fingerprints.
Why not? If the prints are matched and I, as the owner, would testify that this person was not allowed in my car, it’s pretty obvious, isn’t it? It’s not going to be your local auto mechanic’s prints, and if so that would be obvious as well. I really don’t know what the problem is here. Other than simply a complete refusal to enforce any laws and hold any criminals accountable!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How about having juvenile offenders, and their parents, clean graffiti off DC's bridges and monuments on weekends for the next couple years?
The parents of a 26 year old?
Who ever came up with classifying adults ages 18-26 (!) as juveniles?? This is beyond outrageous !
Doesn’t this also go against the law? There are no restrictions on any adult ages 21-26. How on earth can a legal adult be classified as a juvenile at the same time in one city? So in DC you have to be 27 to become an adult? When will this be reversed?
Anonymous wrote:Wrap around services are great to prevent crime, but carjackers, thieves, and those who commit gun crimes need to be prosecuted and imprisoned. How can you justify putting these people back on tbe streets?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The only way to get a handle on this is “mass incarceration” of “juvenile offenders”—here meaning up to age 26 evidently—and this will never, ever happen. DC government has no interest in protecting crime victims, those in positions of authority on such matters care only about the offenders. This is not going to change anytime soon.
This is stupid. First, a mass incarceration of juvenile offenders until the age of 26 would be wickedly expensive and DC taxpayers would foot the bill. Second, it would do nothing to change criminal behavior and likely worsen an already bad situation. Numerous studies cite negative long-term effects of incarcertaion that include depression, substance use, homelessness, and loss of economic productivity. These have both direct financial and societal costs to DC and other communities.
+100. I agree with the DC AG, we need more wrap around services. For those advocating for mass incarceration, they need to move. We are not going to repeat the decades of the 80s and 90s.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:From a comment "I have several extremely visible, fingerprints and handprints all over my vehicle and MPD won’t even come out"
So no finger print taking on victim's vehicles. If there were matches and prints in the system.
Police don’t do prints, the disaccredited crime lab would, and even if they were accredited, fingerprints on a car mean absolutely nothing. No prosecutor is going to support any kind of warrant or prosecution based on car fingerprints.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How about having juvenile offenders, and their parents, clean graffiti off DC's bridges and monuments on weekends for the next couple years?
The parents of a 26 year old?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How about having juvenile offenders, and their parents, clean graffiti off DC's bridges and monuments on weekends for the next couple years?
The parents of a 26 year old?
No, the parents of the many juvenile offenders who apparently are left unsupervised.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wrap around services are great to prevent crime, but carjackers, thieves, and those who commit gun crimes need to be prosecuted and imprisoned. How can you justify putting these people back on tbe streets?
It's cheaper to provide wrap around services than to house, feed, etc. a person in jail all day, plus rehabbing them after they get out. What you advocate for, requires a higher tax percentage.