Senate border deal details, per source familiar I just had a call with.

- Mandatory detention of all single adults.

- Mandatory “shut down” of border once average daily migrant encounters hits 5,000. Importantly, this 5,000 number includes 1,400 CBP One app entries at ports of entry per day, and roughly 3,600 illegal crossings per day.

- How is that enforced? Once the 5,000 threshold is hit, a new authority is codified into law that requires Border Patrol to immediately remove illegal immigrants they catch without processing. They would not get to request asylum, they would immediately be removed. This includes removals back to Mexico, and deportations to home countries. This would be a *massive* change from current policy, which is that once an illegal immigrant reaches US soil, they must be processed via Title 8 and allowed to claim asylum. Under this new authority – they are not processed, and they are mandatorily immediately removed once the “shut down” threshold is reached.

- This “shut down” also takes effect is there are 8,500 migrant encounters in a single day.

- The “shut down” would not lift the next day. It wouldn’t lift until daily encounters are reduced to under 75% of the 5,000 threshold for at least two weeks. This means the “shut down” authority would not lift until two weeks of an average of less than 3,750 migrant encounters per day.

- Some family units will be released with ATD (Alternatives to Detention, ankle monitors etc).

- New removal authority to immediately remove all migrants who do not have valid asylum claims, which will be determined within 6 months rather than the years long process we have right now.

- Any migrant caught trying to cross twice during “shut down” phase would be banned from entering US for one year.

- US will need agreement with Mexico for MX to take back non Mexican illegal immigrants. This hasn't been ironed out yet.

- President Biden approves of the deal and is ready to sign it as is, right now, and implement the new authority it would give him.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Democrat mayors were screaming about illegals under Trump. Border was so secure that they were screaming about too strict of a border .

Trump is the only answer .

Trump is currently the person telling Republicans to NOT secure the border and NOT stop illegals.

No, he isn't. Several Republicans have stated that Mitch made that claim to cover his ass.
Not one Republican has said that Trump has personally said that to them.

How pathetic and ridiculous does Trump and MAGA sound? They think they can keep this up for 10 months?
This Trump thing increasingly feels like a losing campaign.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Democrat mayors were screaming about illegals under Trump. Border was so secure that they were screaming about too strict of a border .

Trump is the only answer .

Trump is currently the person telling Republicans to NOT secure the border and NOT stop illegals.

No, he isn't. Several Republicans have stated that Mitch made that claim to cover his ass.
Not one Republican has said that Trump has personally said that to them.

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I can’t believe you’d blanket trust “several Republicans.” For some reason you’re ignoring that Romney confirmed that Trump is tanking this for your party’s benefit.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats aren't serious at all:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/explainer-republicans-democrats-want-us-110257994.html

WHAT DO REPUBLICANS WANT AT THE BORDER?

Mike Johnson, the Republican House speaker, has said Biden needs to reinstate Trump policies and crack down on border crossings.

Johnson also has called on the Democratic-led Senate to approve a bill passed by the House in May that would effectively end access to asylum at the border.

The measure, known as H.R. 2, passed with broad Republican support but with no backing from Democrats. The bill has not come to a vote in the Senate, where it would face steep Democratic opposition. The White House has said Biden would veto the bill.

WHAT IS IN THE REPUBLICAN BORDER BILL?

The bill generally bars migrants from seeking U.S. asylum at the border if they passed through another country en route to the United States, one of several provisions that would greatly reduce such claims.

The legislation grants the U.S. homeland security secretary sweeping authority to suspend entry to migrants to maintain "operational control" of the border, a standard that would prevent all illegal entries.

The bill mandates construction of at least 900 miles of border wall, a signature Trump policy. It would end new Biden parole programs that have allowed hundreds of thousands of migrants to enter legally, including Ukrainians and Afghans.

The bill would require families to be detained if a parent was charged with illegal entry, and mandate U.S. officials to take steps to quickly return unaccompanied children to their home countries.

WHAT DO DEMOCRATS WANT?

A White House funding request pairs tens of billions of dollars for Ukraine and Israel with nearly $14 billion for U.S. border security.

That money would pay for 1,300 additional U.S. Border Patrol agents, 1,600 new asylum officers and 375 new judge teams.

The package has been blocked by Republicans in the Senate.

House Speaker Mike Johnson's office said the bulk of the money would be used to manage border arrivals, instead of discouraging illegal immigration.

The GOP are the only ones who are serious about addressing the actual root of the problem.

Democrats only want more administration, more hands, and more bloat overall for processing. Their idiotic plans do nothing to solve the problem. Trump is 10000% right. This ain't no deal.. Immediately reject this administrative state garbage. Vote out every single Democrat that you can. They clearly do not think the USA has a right to be an autonomous country with borders.

Such a farce and a joke.

Uh, the processing is in accordance with international law. If we have more people to process more quickly, the determination for asylum can happen more quickly and thus the deporation, rather than letting people in and having them appear months later.

I guess you just want to blanket deny anyone an asylum claim, legitimate or not.

You know what else is law? To detain migrants until their claims have been heard.
And, international law does not REQUIRE a country to admit migrants simply because they claim asylum.
Another little tidbit.... many of these migrants are not even claiming asylum. They admit they are coming to find work. And, they are admitted anyway.
Because.... this is all part of Joe's plan.

detain them where? That is why the need a bill passed, so there money to build more infrastructure to detain them. They aren't detaining them because there is nowhere to hold them. Your arguments are circular and non-response.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Democrat mayors were screaming about illegals under Trump. Border was so secure that they were screaming about too strict of a border .

Trump is the only answer .

Fact: the number of illegal immigrants coming into the US increased every year that Trump was President, until 2020 when his incompetent COVID response destroyed our economy.

Fact: 2019, after 2 years of Trump's "tough" policies, saw a gigantic spike in illegal immigrants coming into the US.

FACT: when the problem got worse, he actually addressed it though, unlike Biden who completely opened the border. Illegal immigration cratered under Trump once he recognized the issue in 2019 and did something about it. Trump got stuff done. Biden and the Dems ruin everything.

More alternative facts.

Read the graph. If you can. Because, I am beginning to doubt you know how.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Democrat mayors were screaming about illegals under Trump. Border was so secure that they were screaming about too strict of a border .

Trump is the only answer .

Fact: the number of illegal immigrants coming into the US increased every year that Trump was President, until 2020 when his incompetent COVID response destroyed our economy.

Fact: 2019, after 2 years of Trump's "tough" policies, saw a gigantic spike in illegal immigrants coming into the US.

FACT: when the problem got worse, he actually addressed it though, unlike Biden who completely opened the border. Illegal immigration cratered under Trump once he recognized the issue in 2019 and did something about it. Trump got stuff done. Biden and the Dems ruin everything.

More alternative facts.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Democrat mayors were screaming about illegals under Trump. Border was so secure that they were screaming about too strict of a border .

Trump is the only answer .

Fact: the number of illegal immigrants coming into the US increased every year that Trump was President, until 2020 when his incompetent COVID response destroyed our economy.

Fact: 2019, after 2 years of Trump's "tough" policies, saw a gigantic spike in illegal immigrants coming into the US.

And, you know what he did? He didn't go to Congress and insist on a "deal" in order to take care of it.
No, he actually told Mexico to get their act together, struck a deal with Mexico and threatened tariffs if they didn't follow through. And, illegal immigration fell as a result.
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1TB17W/#:~:text=Last%20month%2C%20Trump%20threatened%205,across%20its%20border%20with%20Mexico.

Having said that, the spike we saw in 2019 pales in comparison to what we have seen with Biden. Under Biden, there hasn't been a "spike." There has been a steady stream of illegal migrants that has only grown month to month. The chart shows the numbers. And, this chart doesn't include the last 6 months of 2023 which is even greater. And, the chart does NOT include the 30,000 migrants that Biden has granted parole each month by abusing his parole authority.


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He didn't blame Congress for not passing an immigration bill? "The president has blamed Democrats over the past couple of weeks for not passing a new immigration bill, even though Trump’s party controls both houses of Congress. Republican lawmakers are attempting Thursday to pass an immigration bill, but they will likely see defeat, as conservatives have so far failed to agree on a compromise." https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/21/trump-immigration-congress-asylum-661213

The MPP struck his deal with Mexico in 2018. Illegal immigration went up a lot in both 2018 and 2019. It only went down in 2020 when Trump destroyed the economy so badly that even immigrants from third world countries didn't want to come here.

Trump's immigration policies were a complete failure.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Democrat mayors were screaming about illegals under Trump. Border was so secure that they were screaming about too strict of a border .

Trump is the only answer .

Trump is currently the person telling Republicans to NOT secure the border and NOT stop illegals.

No, he isn't. Several Republicans have stated that Mitch made that claim to cover his ass.
Not one Republican has said that Trump has personally said that to them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Democrat mayors were screaming about illegals under Trump. Border was so secure that they were screaming about too strict of a border .

Trump is the only answer .

Fact: the number of illegal immigrants coming into the US increased every year that Trump was President, until 2020 when his incompetent COVID response destroyed our economy.

Fact: 2019, after 2 years of Trump's "tough" policies, saw a gigantic spike in illegal immigrants coming into the US.

FACT: when the problem got worse, he actually addressed it though, unlike Biden who completely opened the border. Illegal immigration cratered under Trump once he recognized the issue in 2019 and did something about it. Trump got stuff done. Biden and the Dems ruin everything.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Democrat mayors were screaming about illegals under Trump. Border was so secure that they were screaming about too strict of a border .

Trump is the only answer .

Trump is currently the person telling Republicans to NOT secure the border and NOT stop illegals.

Because the Democrats don’t have a serious deal. Dems just want more money for processing so they can let more illegals in.

They do have a serious deal and it includes 80% of what the GOP has asked for. Why not take the win and try to get the remaining 20% when a republican is in office?

Again.... I have no idea where you are getting the "80%" claim. That is BS.
The plan will do NOTHING to secure the border.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats aren't serious at all:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/explainer-republicans-democrats-want-us-110257994.html

WHAT DO REPUBLICANS WANT AT THE BORDER?

Mike Johnson, the Republican House speaker, has said Biden needs to reinstate Trump policies and crack down on border crossings.

Johnson also has called on the Democratic-led Senate to approve a bill passed by the House in May that would effectively end access to asylum at the border.

The measure, known as H.R. 2, passed with broad Republican support but with no backing from Democrats. The bill has not come to a vote in the Senate, where it would face steep Democratic opposition. The White House has said Biden would veto the bill.

WHAT IS IN THE REPUBLICAN BORDER BILL?

The bill generally bars migrants from seeking U.S. asylum at the border if they passed through another country en route to the United States, one of several provisions that would greatly reduce such claims.

The legislation grants the U.S. homeland security secretary sweeping authority to suspend entry to migrants to maintain "operational control" of the border, a standard that would prevent all illegal entries.

The bill mandates construction of at least 900 miles of border wall, a signature Trump policy. It would end new Biden parole programs that have allowed hundreds of thousands of migrants to enter legally, including Ukrainians and Afghans.

The bill would require families to be detained if a parent was charged with illegal entry, and mandate U.S. officials to take steps to quickly return unaccompanied children to their home countries.

WHAT DO DEMOCRATS WANT?

A White House funding request pairs tens of billions of dollars for Ukraine and Israel with nearly $14 billion for U.S. border security.

That money would pay for 1,300 additional U.S. Border Patrol agents, 1,600 new asylum officers and 375 new judge teams.

The package has been blocked by Republicans in the Senate.

House Speaker Mike Johnson's office said the bulk of the money would be used to manage border arrivals, instead of discouraging illegal immigration.

The GOP are the only ones who are serious about addressing the actual root of the problem.

Democrats only want more administration, more hands, and more bloat overall for processing. Their idiotic plans do nothing to solve the problem. Trump is 10000% right. This ain't no deal.. Immediately reject this administrative state garbage. Vote out every single Democrat that you can. They clearly do not think the USA has a right to be an autonomous country with borders.

Such a farce and a joke.

Uh, the processing is in accordance with international law. If we have more people to process more quickly, the determination for asylum can happen more quickly and thus the deporation, rather than letting people in and having them appear months later.

I guess you just want to blanket deny anyone an asylum claim, legitimate or not.

You know what else is law? To detain migrants until their claims have been heard.
And, international law does not REQUIRE a country to admit migrants simply because they claim asylum.
Another little tidbit.... many of these migrants are not even claiming asylum. They admit they are coming to find work. And, they are admitted anyway.
Because.... this is all part of Joe's plan.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats aren't serious at all:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/explainer-republicans-democrats-want-us-110257994.html

WHAT DO REPUBLICANS WANT AT THE BORDER?

Mike Johnson, the Republican House speaker, has said Biden needs to reinstate Trump policies and crack down on border crossings.

Johnson also has called on the Democratic-led Senate to approve a bill passed by the House in May that would effectively end access to asylum at the border.

The measure, known as H.R. 2, passed with broad Republican support but with no backing from Democrats. The bill has not come to a vote in the Senate, where it would face steep Democratic opposition. The White House has said Biden would veto the bill.

WHAT IS IN THE REPUBLICAN BORDER BILL?

The bill generally bars migrants from seeking U.S. asylum at the border if they passed through another country en route to the United States, one of several provisions that would greatly reduce such claims.

The legislation grants the U.S. homeland security secretary sweeping authority to suspend entry to migrants to maintain "operational control" of the border, a standard that would prevent all illegal entries.

The bill mandates construction of at least 900 miles of border wall, a signature Trump policy. It would end new Biden parole programs that have allowed hundreds of thousands of migrants to enter legally, including Ukrainians and Afghans.

The bill would require families to be detained if a parent was charged with illegal entry, and mandate U.S. officials to take steps to quickly return unaccompanied children to their home countries.

WHAT DO DEMOCRATS WANT?

A White House funding request pairs tens of billions of dollars for Ukraine and Israel with nearly $14 billion for U.S. border security.

That money would pay for 1,300 additional U.S. Border Patrol agents, 1,600 new asylum officers and 375 new judge teams.

The package has been blocked by Republicans in the Senate.

House Speaker Mike Johnson's office said the bulk of the money would be used to manage border arrivals, instead of discouraging illegal immigration.

The GOP are the only ones who are serious about addressing the actual root of the problem.

Democrats only want more administration, more hands, and more bloat overall for processing. Their idiotic plans do nothing to solve the problem. Trump is 10000% right. This ain't no deal.. Immediately reject this administrative state garbage. Vote out every single Democrat that you can. They clearly do not think the USA has a right to be an autonomous country with borders.

Such a farce and a joke.

Uh, the processing is in accordance with international law. If we have more people to process more quickly, the determination for asylum can happen more quickly and thus the deporation, rather than letting people in and having them appear months later.

I guess you just want to blanket deny anyone an asylum claim, legitimate or not.

lol, where in international law says you have to respect illegal immigrants flimsy asylum claims after they have passed over multiple countries on their way to the U.S.? Where in international law says asylum seekers have ala carte privileges?


They can claim asylum in Mexico. Why isn’t Mexico granting asylum? They landed in Mexico first.



Your idiotic plans do nothing to the actual flow, all it does is create a bloated administrative state to process more while more come. Are you really this dim?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Democrat mayors were screaming about illegals under Trump. Border was so secure that they were screaming about too strict of a border .

Trump is the only answer .

Fact: the number of illegal immigrants coming into the US increased every year that Trump was President, until 2020 when his incompetent COVID response destroyed our economy.

Fact: 2019, after 2 years of Trump's "tough" policies, saw a gigantic spike in illegal immigrants coming into the US.

And, you know what he did? He didn't go to Congress and insist on a "deal" in order to take care of it.
No, he actually told Mexico to get their act together, struck a deal with Mexico and threatened tariffs if they didn't follow through. And, illegal immigration fell as a result.
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1TB17W/#:~:text=Last%20month%2C%20Trump%20threatened%205,across%20its%20border%20with%20Mexico.

Having said that, the spike we saw in 2019 pales in comparison to what we have seen with Biden. Under Biden, there hasn't been a "spike." There has been a steady stream of illegal migrants that has only grown month to month. The chart shows the numbers. And, this chart doesn't include the last 6 months of 2023 which is even greater. And, the chart does NOT include the 30,000 migrants that Biden has granted parole each month by abusing his parole authority.


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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No Democrat mayors were screaming about illegals under Trump. Border was so secure that they were screaming about too strict of a border .

Trump is the only answer .

Trump is currently the person telling Republicans to NOT secure the border and NOT stop illegals.

Because the Democrats don’t have a serious deal. Dems just want more money for processing so they can let more illegals in.

They do have a serious deal and it includes 80% of what the GOP has asked for. Why not take the win and try to get the remaining 20% when a republican is in office?

Anonymous wrote:The Democrats aren't serious at all:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/explainer-republicans-democrats-want-us-110257994.html

WHAT DO REPUBLICANS WANT AT THE BORDER?

Mike Johnson, the Republican House speaker, has said Biden needs to reinstate Trump policies and crack down on border crossings.

Johnson also has called on the Democratic-led Senate to approve a bill passed by the House in May that would effectively end access to asylum at the border.

The measure, known as H.R. 2, passed with broad Republican support but with no backing from Democrats. The bill has not come to a vote in the Senate, where it would face steep Democratic opposition. The White House has said Biden would veto the bill.

WHAT IS IN THE REPUBLICAN BORDER BILL?

The bill generally bars migrants from seeking U.S. asylum at the border if they passed through another country en route to the United States, one of several provisions that would greatly reduce such claims.

The legislation grants the U.S. homeland security secretary sweeping authority to suspend entry to migrants to maintain "operational control" of the border, a standard that would prevent all illegal entries.

The bill mandates construction of at least 900 miles of border wall, a signature Trump policy. It would end new Biden parole programs that have allowed hundreds of thousands of migrants to enter legally, including Ukrainians and Afghans.

The bill would require families to be detained if a parent was charged with illegal entry, and mandate U.S. officials to take steps to quickly return unaccompanied children to their home countries.

WHAT DO DEMOCRATS WANT?

A White House funding request pairs tens of billions of dollars for Ukraine and Israel with nearly $14 billion for U.S. border security.

That money would pay for 1,300 additional U.S. Border Patrol agents, 1,600 new asylum officers and 375 new judge teams.

The package has been blocked by Republicans in the Senate.

House Speaker Mike Johnson's office said the bulk of the money would be used to manage border arrivals, instead of discouraging illegal immigration.

The GOP are the only ones who are serious about addressing the actual root of the problem.

Democrats only want more administration, more hands, and more bloat overall for processing. Their idiotic plans do nothing to solve the problem. Trump is 10000% right. This ain't no deal.. Immediately reject this administrative state garbage. Vote out every single Democrat that you can. They clearly do not think the USA has a right to be an autonomous country with borders.

Such a farce and a joke.

Uh, the processing is in accordance with international law. If we have more people to process more quickly, the determination for asylum can happen more quickly and thus the deporation, rather than letting people in and having them appear months later.

I guess you just want to blanket deny anyone an asylum claim, legitimate or not.