Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 12:36     Subject: Any uva ED rejects who got into better/icy schools during RD?
Anonymous wrote:why have you all derailed this thread?


+1
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 10:32     Subject: Any uva ED rejects who got into better/icy schools during RD?
why have you all derailed this thread?
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 10:10     Subject: Re:Any uva ED rejects who got into better/icy schools during RD?
Anonymous wrote:
I have come to see that giving kids another shot at a re-test is perhaps giving them another change to actually learn the information. And note -- you are not required to re-take nor does the class progression stop so that kids can re-take. These kids are putting in the time and effort to retake as they are still moving on to new material. I respect the kid that tries again vs shrugs, accepts that they didn't do well and doesn't bother trying.
The student can, and should, work to learn the material, but should not be given a chance to retake tests. That's not how to teach them real life consequences and work skills. If I miss a deadline or blow a client presentation, I don't get a do over, my firm loses the account and related money. If my mechanic puts my brakes on incorrectly and I have an accident, or my hair stylist burns my scalp or if I go to a restaurant and the food or service are bad, those people/places aren't getting a do over. My spouse is a teacher and is concerned that post Covid, kids think they should get at least a C for bare minimum work and the parents raise hell if they don't get a B. We're hurting these kids by letting them think they're entitled to something they didn't work for and earn.


DP: if they retake the test and improve significantly, by definition they did the work, otherwise they wouldn’t score higher. You are describing a different issue: time/ deadlines.

Retaking the test is not high stakes compared to what you described. Yes, kids need to learn to meet deadlines but education is about learning.
Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 10:06     Subject: Re:Any uva ED rejects who got into better/icy schools during RD?
Anonymous wrote:
I have come to see that giving kids another shot at a re-test is perhaps giving them another change to actually learn the information. And note -- you are not required to re-take nor does the class progression stop so that kids can re-take. These kids are putting in the time and effort to retake as they are still moving on to new material. I respect the kid that tries again vs shrugs, accepts that they didn't do well and doesn't bother trying.
The student can, and should, work to learn the material, but should not be given a chance to retake tests. That's not how to teach them real life consequences and work skills. If I miss a deadline or blow a client presentation, I don't get a do over, my firm loses the account and related money. If my mechanic puts my brakes on incorrectly and I have an accident, or my hair stylist burns my scalp or if I go to a restaurant and the food or service are bad, those people/places aren't getting a do over. My spouse is a teacher and is concerned that post Covid, kids think they should get at least a C for bare minimum work and the parents raise hell if they don't get a B. We're hurting these kids by letting them think they're entitled to something they didn't work for and earn.


Why are you setting the same standards for children and professional adults with years of experience?

They are LEARNING, and learning involves making mistakes.

If your kid knows everything already and never makes mistakes why are they even in school?

Anonymous
Post 01/12/2024 10:01     Subject: Re:Any uva ED rejects who got into better/icy schools during RD?
I have come to see that giving kids another shot at a re-test is perhaps giving them another change to actually learn the information. And note -- you are not required to re-take nor does the class progression stop so that kids can re-take. These kids are putting in the time and effort to retake as they are still moving on to new material. I respect the kid that tries again vs shrugs, accepts that they didn't do well and doesn't bother trying.
The student can, and should, work to learn the material, but should not be given a chance to retake tests. That's not how to teach them real life consequences and work skills. If I miss a deadline or blow a client presentation, I don't get a do over, my firm loses the account and related money. If my mechanic puts my brakes on incorrectly and I have an accident, or my hair stylist burns my scalp or if I go to a restaurant and the food or service are bad, those people/places aren't getting a do over. My spouse is a teacher and is concerned that post Covid, kids think they should get at least a C for bare minimum work and the parents raise hell if they don't get a B. We're hurting these kids by letting them think they're entitled to something they didn't work for and earn.