Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 09:02     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:How people can hear him talk and see his life values are NOT Christ like and still vote for him is beyond me


Well the vast majority of self proclaimed Christians are not Christ like, except maybe on Sunday. Monday through Saturday, not so.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 08:56     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

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Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump and think he is racist as f*ck but to be fair he said ILLEGAL immigrants not immigrants.


Naturalized American immigrants can have their citizenship revoked by the DOJ

People are sleepwalking if they don’t realize that this is what Trump is going to do - he’s going to try to do mass denaturalization of naturalized American citizens (and their kids!) for “lying” on immigration forms. Of course, it will be completely trumped up reasons based on ridiculous interpretations of laws/policies, but the naturalized citizens will have no recourse and be tossed out the country ASAP. My guess is that they go after Mexicans, Persians, and Palestinians first.

https://www.findlaw.com/immigration/citizenship/can-your-u-s-citizenship-be-revoked-.html#:~:text=Under%20the%2014th%20Amendment%20to,deportation)%20from%20the%20United%20States.



This is the biggest fear in my house if Trump gets re-elected. My DH was naturalized in the 1990s. Trump and Trump supporters are horrifying.


And, you are falling for the fear mongering by the left.


Strongly disagree and you are in denial

He has already invited a violent insurrection and came close to pulling off a coup.

His rallies often make threats against anyone who disagrees with him or gets in his way and his cult followers often make death threats or violence against anyone who expresses grievances against .

Attacks on POC increased in unprecedented ways durinf his last term in office.

He has already promised he will be a dictator on day one .

He is aligned with Putin over allies and has Demonstrated this allegiance time and time again . Putin has already expressed desire to help get him get re-elected and vows any enemy of Trump is his enemy. Trump
Often used sour in talking points about NATO when in office.

30 k verified lies and his lies about election fraud continue.



This statement alone tells me that you are indeed falling for fear mongering.

He stated that he would be a dictator ONLY on day one.... and the actions he would take would be to overturn all of Biden's EOs that have cause the crises we are dealing with now. So, I guess that by issuing those destructive EOs on Day 1 makes Biden a dictator.


He also said he would go after his enemies, lock them up and pardon the January 6th insurrectionist. I guess you really think he would stop at one day of dictatorship. Stupid people. I remember when Putin promised the Russian people he would only do two terms.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 08:49     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

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Anonymous wrote:He says the quiet part out loud and his base LOVES the bigoted rhetoric because they think the same thing.

Of course, this is all qualified by the ethnicity of the immigrants coming in. As long as they're coming from northern European countries it's okay, there's no blood poisoning involved. Anywhere else, the MAGA base is horrified by.


What illegal immigrants from northern European countries are showing up at our border by the millions and being let into the US to settle anywhere they choose? Do tell!


Ukraine, Moldova, Ireland and Hungary.


+ Russians. Thousands of Russians crossing the board now.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 08:47     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump and think he is racist as f*ck but to be fair he said ILLEGAL immigrants not immigrants.


Immigrants are not "illegal." They are human beings, and human beings are not "illegal."
Undocumented immigrants are present in the US without legal authorization. These undocumented, desperate people, mostly from Latin America, China and Africa, are not "poisoning the blood" of America.
Shame on you for even thinking such a thing.


If they are in the country with intent to stay long-term without authorization they are "illegal". Whether or not they have a document, or a fake document, or documents from their home country is all irrelevant. Maybe I will start calling myself an undocumented cardiac surgeon.

The people coming illegally from China are only undocumented by choice. They destroy their Chinese documents upon arrival and ignore the documents (orders to appear for hearings) they are given by the US. They are not desperate either - most are middle class or LMC and looking to make more money in the US.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 08:24     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

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Anonymous wrote:So what would you do with them? They are human beings.


Send them back from where they came - Mexico. We are not obligated to take the people Mexico lets pass through.


Just imagine if someone had said that about your family when they showed up at the banks of the shores of the US from their ****hole country.



Uhhh, my mother DID show up here, from Germany, in 1962.

She had to be sponsored by a family already here. She had to have money in her pocket. She had to have medical checks. That's all BEFORE she came here.

She also went to England for a year and a half as an au pair to learn English. Until the early 1980's, she had to show up to the post office once a year and fill out a card on where she was living, with who, and other pertinent information.

It's was CONTROLLED immigration.

And how did the family that was already here get here? At some point, all of your ancestors were immigrants (other than native Americans), and some came here through "UNCONTROLLED" immigration (how nice for them), and some even lied their way to come here (go visit Ellis Island and read some of the testimonials).


This is such a propaganda. I was a first generation immigrant who came legally here. I never had any family members here in US before my arrival. There are millions like me.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 07:25     Subject: Re:Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not racist to want a secure border.

It’s not racist to want proper vetting of the people coming into our home.

It’s not racist to be outraged over subsidized migrants while Americans can’t afford food or rent.


It is racist to oppose immigration on the grounds that immigrants are "poisoning the blood" of a country, which happens to be the topic of this thread.

+1

And I agree that we should vet people and have a secure border. The Democrats are trying to do that, the GOP just wants to use Nazi rhetoric and keep their voters angry and scared.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2023 00:15     Subject: Re:Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is what Trump doesn’t want over here:



Right now people from all over the world are crossing our southern border.
Really? I have yet to see any Australians, Brits, or Chinese crossing the southern border.


Holy $hit. What did I just see...
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 23:49     Subject: Re:Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:It’s not racist to want a secure border.

It’s not racist to want proper vetting of the people coming into our home.

It’s not racist to be outraged over subsidized migrants while Americans can’t afford food or rent.


It is racist to oppose immigration on the grounds that immigrants are "poisoning the blood" of a country, which happens to be the topic of this thread.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 22:12     Subject: Re:Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

It’s not racist to want a secure border.

It’s not racist to want proper vetting of the people coming into our home.

It’s not racist to be outraged over subsidized migrants while Americans can’t afford food or rent.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 20:27     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He says the quiet part out loud and his base LOVES the bigoted rhetoric because they think the same thing.

Of course, this is all qualified by the ethnicity of the immigrants coming in. As long as they're coming from northern European countries it's okay, there's no blood poisoning involved. Anywhere else, the MAGA base is horrified by.


What illegal immigrants from northern European countries are showing up at our border by the millions and being let into the US to settle anywhere they choose? Do tell!


Ukraine, Moldova, Ireland and Hungary.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 19:49     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He says the quiet part out loud and his base LOVES the bigoted rhetoric because they think the same thing.

Of course, this is all qualified by the ethnicity of the immigrants coming in. As long as they're coming from northern European countries it's okay, there's no blood poisoning involved. Anywhere else, the MAGA base is horrified by.


What illegal immigrants from northern European countries are showing up at our border by the millions and being let into the US to settle anywhere they choose? Do tell!


Well there's always been the illegal Irish. Do you care about them?


Actually, spend a little time in Chicago, and you'll find quite a few undocumented (tall, white, blonde, attractive) young people from Poland, a Northern European country. I don't hear any outcry against these undocumented immigrants.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 19:49     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what would you do with them? They are human beings.


Send them back from where they came - Mexico. We are not obligated to take the people Mexico lets pass through.


Just imagine if someone had said that about your family when they showed up at the banks of the shores of the US from their ****hole country.



Uhhh, my mother DID show up here, from Germany, in 1962.

She had to be sponsored by a family already here. She had to have money in her pocket. She had to have medical checks. That's all BEFORE she came here.

She also went to England for a year and a half as an au pair to learn English. Until the early 1980's, she had to show up to the post office once a year and fill out a card on where she was living, with who, and other pertinent information.

It's was CONTROLLED immigration.

And how did the family that was already here get here? At some point, all of your ancestors were immigrants (other than native Americans), and some came here through "UNCONTROLLED" immigration (how nice for them), and some even lied their way to come here (go visit Ellis Island and read some of the testimonials).


US immigration policy has not been updated for 30 years. The numbers of visas and work permits allowed are pathetically small in relation to the need for workers here in the US. Many jobs go unfilled by Americans, but immigrants will gladly take those jobs AT A LOWER PAY (fixed that for ya). The US Congress needs to increase the numbers of immigrant workers allowed to enter the US legally each year to work here.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 19:47     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what would you do with them? They are human beings.


Send them back from where they came - Mexico. We are not obligated to take the people Mexico lets pass through.


Just imagine if someone had said that about your family when they showed up at the banks of the shores of the US from their ****hole country.



Uhhh, my mother DID show up here, from Germany, in 1962.

She had to be sponsored by a family already here. She had to have money in her pocket. She had to have medical checks. That's all BEFORE she came here.

She also went to England for a year and a half as an au pair to learn English. Until the early 1980's, she had to show up to the post office once a year and fill out a card on where she was living, with who, and other pertinent information.

It's was CONTROLLED immigration.

And how did the family that was already here get here? At some point, all of your ancestors were immigrants (other than native Americans), and some came here through "UNCONTROLLED" immigration (how nice for them), and some even lied their way to come here (go visit Ellis Island and read some of the testimonials).


US immigration policy has not been updated for 30 years. The numbers of visas and work permits allowed are pathetically small in relation to the need for workers here in the US. Many jobs go unfilled by Americans, but immigrants will gladly take those jobs. The US Congress needs to increase the numbers of immigrant workers allowed to enter the US legally each year to work here.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 19:44     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:I hate Trump and think he is racist as f*ck but to be fair he said ILLEGAL immigrants not immigrants.


Immigrants are not "illegal." They are human beings, and human beings are not "illegal."
Undocumented immigrants are present in the US without legal authorization. These undocumented, desperate people, mostly from Latin America, China and Africa, are not "poisoning the blood" of America.
Shame on you for even thinking such a thing.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2023 19:10     Subject: Trump warns that immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what would you do with them? They are human beings.


Send them back from where they came - Mexico. We are not obligated to take the people Mexico lets pass through.


Just imagine if someone had said that about your family when they showed up at the banks of the shores of the US from their ****hole country.



Uhhh, my mother DID show up here, from Germany, in 1962.

She had to be sponsored by a family already here. She had to have money in her pocket. She had to have medical checks. That's all BEFORE she came here.

She also went to England for a year and a half as an au pair to learn English. Until the early 1980's, she had to show up to the post office once a year and fill out a card on where she was living, with who, and other pertinent information.

It's was CONTROLLED immigration.

And how did the family that was already here get here? At some point, all of your ancestors were immigrants (other than native Americans), and some came here through "UNCONTROLLED" immigration (how nice for them), and some even lied their way to come here (go visit Ellis Island and read some of the testimonials).