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Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250 .

People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!

With the biggest beneficiaries being the UCs, which are test blind.

+1. Zing to that annoying poster who won’t shut up about tutoring!

Does anyone really believe UCSB or Davis are T30?

The reality is that these lower UC schools are getting excellent students so maybe they really belong in T30.

And they educate them like cattle, and with the exception of UCLA, provide no housing.

Wait. UCLA has had serious housing issues. Google it

They did, but they built more.

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Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250 .

People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!

With the biggest beneficiaries being the UCs, which are test blind.

+1. Zing to that annoying poster who won’t shut up about tutoring!

Does anyone really believe UCSB or Davis are T30?

I believe there are a lot of very smart kids in CA. And a lot of UMC parents in things like tech who already live in a high COL area and rare priced out of privates. And the UC publics benefit from the talent. Much as much of the DMV wants UVA or UMD or WM or VT or whatever because a $350,000 to $400,000 price tag on prices is unmanageable.

Those aren’t the kids driving the rankings improvement , it’s the opposite, percent of pell grant recipients.

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Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250 .

People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!

With the biggest beneficiaries being the UCs, which are test blind.

+1. Zing to that annoying poster who won’t shut up about tutoring!

Does anyone really believe UCSB or Davis are T30?

The reality is that these lower UC schools are getting excellent students so maybe they really belong in T30.

And they educate them like cattle, and with the exception of UCLA, provide no housing.

Wait. UCLA has had serious housing issues. Google it

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Anonymous wrote:He new rankings are a joke. Every state flagship is now a top 50. UC Davis at 28.

+1. With each tweak of the formula to push up publics, the ranking gets further away from decades of reputational prestige.

Not that there's anything wrong with the publics. The ultimate demise of overemphasis on prestige may be the ranking itself.

I could be wrong but I believe USNWR includes “value” in its criteria. With USC and other SLACs breaching $92k a year, I think it it time to reward the publics for doing the fine job that they are doing at a “reasonable” (depending upon your view) cost. (and for the record I went private and Ivy for undergrad and law school) My SLAC is not worth $86k a year. No university is worth $90k+

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Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250 .

People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!

With the biggest beneficiaries being the UCs, which are test blind.

+1. Zing to that annoying poster who won’t shut up about tutoring!

Does anyone really believe UCSB or Davis are T30?

I believe they have T30 caliber students. The prestige isn’t T30. But that’s a lagging indicator. It will be in 10 years.

yeah, their peers will look at them as we look at Cal grads. prestigious in retrospect

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Anonymous wrote:Elon drops from 89 to 133!

Whoa!

Social mobility dragging them down. That metric is a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250 .

People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!

With the biggest beneficiaries being the UCs, which are test blind.

+1. Zing to that annoying poster who won’t shut up about tutoring!

Does anyone really believe UCSB or Davis are T30?

The reality is that these lower UC schools are getting excellent students so maybe they really belong in T30.

And they educate them like cattle, and with the exception of UCLA, provide no housing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250 .

People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!

With the biggest beneficiaries being the UCs, which are test blind.

+1. Zing to that annoying poster who won’t shut up about tutoring!

Does anyone really believe UCSB or Davis are T30?

I believe they have T30 caliber students. The prestige isn’t T30. But that’s a lagging indicator. It will be in 10 years.

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Anonymous wrote:UC Davis is very hot. I get that the DCUM crowd isn't aware, but it's a very good school.

Someone is apparently very triggered that their kid at Emory might get their finance jobs taken from Davis students.

Except that Davis students won't be swooping in to take internships from Emory students due to US News rankings changes. The ranking has gotten further and further from reflecting prestige in the employment world.

I thought that’s what the WSJ rankings attempted to capture. Not sure how either school did on that. I know Babson did well.

WSj was a fraudulent ranking exercise to make you click on it. It was based only on ROI. If you look at college as only a means to an end, i.e.., a trade school for stem then it’s worth what it is printed in.

I wouldn't call it fraudulent. All that really matters is Teaching Quality, First Year Experience, Student-Teacher Ratio, and ROI. The rest of it is just BS to appease certain special interests.

I don't understand why peer assessment is a factor and why it's weighted so heavily (20%!). It's the most subjective variable.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250 .

People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!

With the biggest beneficiaries being the UCs, which are test blind.

+1. Zing to that annoying poster who won’t shut up about tutoring!

Does anyone really believe UCSB or Davis are T30?

No we don't.

Anonymous wrote:The publics get a big boost. Not fair imo, as they are expensive for low income students as fin aid is poor.

They aren’t expensive at all for in state students. Did you see the tuitions listed? $6,000 yearly in Florida, 13,000 in a lot of the state schools. I was surprised the state schools pretty much dominated the list.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250 .

People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!

With the biggest beneficiaries being the UCs, which are test blind.

+1. Zing to that annoying poster who won’t shut up about tutoring!

Does anyone really believe UCSB or Davis are T30?

I believe there are a lot of very smart kids in CA. And a lot of UMC parents in things like tech who already live in a high COL area and rare priced out of privates. And the UC publics benefit from the talent. Much as much of the DMV wants UVA or UMD or WM or VT or whatever because a $350,000 to $400,000 price tag on prices is unmanageable.

Anonymous wrote:Elon drops from 89 to 133!

Whoa!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"These rankings don't matter" crowd sounds similar to the Test optional crowd that secretly pays $500/hr to test prep their kids to move from 1200 to 1250 .

People, the only rankings that matter is US News and this is it for 2024!

With the biggest beneficiaries being the UCs, which are test blind.

+1. Zing to that annoying poster who won’t shut up about tutoring!

Does anyone really believe UCSB or Davis are T30?

The reality is that these lower UC schools are getting excellent students so maybe they really belong in T30.