Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 16:47     Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
As stated - A meets are competitive and you use your best swimmers for the most points.

B meets are for everyone. Everyone gets to swim, get times, etc.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 16:29     Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Anonymous wrote:I view summer swim as a competitive swim team where the goal on Saturday's is to win the swim meet. In no other sport would you not put in your best, even if it means swimming up a kid, to win just so other kids can feel good or have the opportunity to swim on a Saturday. Maybe swimming up a kid means the 13-14 relay can win vs both 13-14 and 11-12 losing that week. Everyone getting the chance to swim is what B meets are for. And no, I am not from a D1 team and never aspire to be there.


+1. This actually happened at our last meet. An 11 year old swam the 13-14 relay, and they won. It was the first time they won their relay this entire season.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 15:53     Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Anonymous wrote:As the other poster just said, you can't bump someone because someone else is faster that is younger. It's only meant to be done when you literally don't have the bodies. Obviously in the MCSL halftime relay, it's open, so there's your chance for your blazing fast 14 year old to show up all the 15-18s.

Here's the MCSL rule:

1. The Swim Up rule shall not be used for the purpose of a team
gaining a competitive advantage by replacing a swimmer, that is
the correct age and available to swim, with a faster or more
proficient swimmer from a lower age group. Should it be
determined that a team deliberately misrepresented the
availability of a swimmer in order to utilize a Swim Up, the team
may be subject to sanctions as determined by the MCSL Board


Thanks for providing the MCSL for comparison purposes but this is about NVSL. NVSL allows swimming up in other age groups
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 15:30     Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Anonymous wrote:I’m surprised NVSL doesn’t have the same rules as MCSL. Swimups aren’t allowed unless all available swimmers in that age group
have been maxed out on events, and teams with four or more eligible swimmers in a group can’t have a swim up in anything but free. (That last bit was told to me by a longtime MCSL board member.)

I guess teams could declare kids unavailable in order to bypass them, but I can’t imagine it happening in my middle-of-the-road division.


We’ve been in NVSL Divisons 18-12 since our family has been involved and the teams have done swim ups if swimming up was advantageous in scoring.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 15:27     Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
Anonymous wrote:As the other poster just said, you can't bump someone because someone else is faster that is younger. It's only meant to be done when you literally don't have the bodies. Obviously in the MCSL halftime relay, it's open, so there's your chance for your blazing fast 14 year old to show up all the 15-18s.

Here's the MCSL rule:

1. The Swim Up rule shall not be used for the purpose of a team
gaining a competitive advantage by replacing a swimmer, that is
the correct age and available to swim, with a faster or more
proficient swimmer from a lower age group. Should it be
determined that a team deliberately misrepresented the
availability of a swimmer in order to utilize a Swim Up, the team
may be subject to sanctions as determined by the MCSL Board


Yes, you can in the NVSL.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2025 15:00     Subject: swimming up someone nvsl
As the other poster just said, you can't bump someone because someone else is faster that is younger. It's only meant to be done when you literally don't have the bodies. Obviously in the MCSL halftime relay, it's open, so there's your chance for your blazing fast 14 year old to show up all the 15-18s.

Here's the MCSL rule:

1. The Swim Up rule shall not be used for the purpose of a team
gaining a competitive advantage by replacing a swimmer, that is
the correct age and available to swim, with a faster or more
proficient swimmer from a lower age group. Should it be
determined that a team deliberately misrepresented the
availability of a swimmer in order to utilize a Swim Up, the team
may be subject to sanctions as determined by the MCSL Board