Anonymous wrote:My PhD-educated, UMC dad spanked me, so let’s just go ahead and put that nonsensical anecdote to bed.

If he had a PhD I bet he didn't mistake anecdotes for data.

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Anonymous wrote:NP: Clearly, you are all using different definitions for the word "spanking." Some of you say they were like swats, or stings. Others say their spankings were abusive beatings, causing pain, terror, and mental anguish. Those are two very different things. They will have very different effects on a child.

Did the spankings not hurt much? Were they infrequent? Delivered with love rather than anger? Did they leave marks?Were you sobbing in pain, laying in a puddle on the floor afterwards? Did you no longer feel safe in your own home? Did you know inside you that you deserved the abuse?

Yea. Different things.

I have had some spankings delivered with love….but not from my parents.

I am shocked how many people jump to assuming kids who aren’t spanked are poorly behaved. Just because you are a lazy and bad parent doesn’t mean the rest of us are too. I have never spanked my child and they are very well behaved.

Great. So your one and only is well behaved and did not require spanking as a form of discipline. All children are not alike, even those raised in the same home with the same parents and same rules. One child may require a stern look. Another child may require a sit down and conversation regarding actions and consequences. The third child may require the first two options plus removal of pleasurable activities. And the fourth child may require all of the previous actions with no success. One of those children may require a good swat before s/he becomes that well-behaved child. Different strokes for different personalities.

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Anonymous wrote:NP: Clearly, you are all using different definitions for the word "spanking." Some of you say they were like swats, or stings. Others say their spankings were abusive beatings, causing pain, terror, and mental anguish. Those are two very different things. They will have very different effects on a child.

Did the spankings not hurt much? Were they infrequent? Delivered with love rather than anger? Did they leave marks?Were you sobbing in pain, laying in a puddle on the floor afterwards? Did you no longer feel safe in your own home? Did you know inside you that you deserved the abuse?

Yea. Different things.

I have had some spankings delivered with love….but not from my parents.

I am shocked how many people jump to assuming kids who aren’t spanked are poorly behaved. Just because you are a lazy and bad parent doesn’t mean the rest of us are too. I have never spanked my child and they are very well behaved.

I think the kids who are not well behaved are probably the ones who get spanked. Of course you don't have to spank a well behaved child. That may be the kind of child you have -- one who responds to something other than spanking to be well behaved. The kids who don't respond or are otherwise a massive handful are more likely to get spanked.

Anonymous wrote:NP: Clearly, you are all using different definitions for the word "spanking." Some of you say they were like swats, or stings. Others say their spankings were abusive beatings, causing pain, terror, and mental anguish. Those are two very different things. They will have very different effects on a child.

Did the spankings not hurt much? Were they infrequent? Delivered with love rather than anger? Did they leave marks?Were you sobbing in pain, laying in a puddle on the floor afterwards? Did you no longer feel safe in your own home? Did you know inside you that you deserved the abuse?

Yea. Different things.

I have had some spankings delivered with love….but not from my parents.

I am shocked how many people jump to assuming kids who aren’t spanked are poorly behaved. Just because you are a lazy and bad parent doesn’t mean the rest of us are too. I have never spanked my child and they are very well behaved.

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Anonymous wrote:Spanking is so trashy. The only parents I know who talk about giving their kids a “good seat to the behind” cite the Bible in their parenting and are conservative. I don’t know anyone well educated and financially comfortable who resorts to this. We have other ways of instilling values in our children that don’t involve violence.

+1 absolutely trashy and low class. Associated with shitty parents who are poor and desperate and not yet mature adults themselves.

+2, spanking is a low class, low education, low SES thing.

+3 definitely a low educated, low SES thing

Men with PhD bragging about their “high education” insult and spank. I have two of them in my IL family. FIL is a shitty parent.
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I'm sorry you got a poorly raised dud for a spouse.

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Anonymous wrote:Spanking is so trashy. The only parents I know who talk about giving their kids a “good seat to the behind” cite the Bible in their parenting and are conservative. I don’t know anyone well educated and financially comfortable who resorts to this. We have other ways of instilling values in our children that don’t involve violence.

+1 absolutely trashy and low class. Associated with shitty parents who are poor and desperate and not yet mature adults themselves.

+2, spanking is a low class, low education, low SES thing.

+3 definitely a low educated, low SES thing

Men with PhD bragging about their “high education” insult and spank. I have two of them in my IL family. FIL is a shitty parent.
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Compelling insight.

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Anonymous wrote:My PhD-educated, UMC dad spanked me, so let’s just go ahead and put that nonsensical anecdote to bed.

right but what was that 1970?

My MD sister-in-law, a pediatrician, will spank her kids sometimes.

can you link her practice so some of us can make sure to never go there?

Lol yes I am sure the PP will ruin the reputation of her SIL since an anonymous poster asked her to.

seems like pp does not find it to be a reputation ruining thing...

Post your personal email and I’ll let you know.

I mean this is the point right. the pp is defending the practice but knows that on some level it's a level of shameful that could ruin someone's rep.

Everyone agrees there is social stigma so it's hurtful to someone's reputation. The point is that it's nonetheless common, ppl just aren't telling other ppl about it.

right cos it's shameful for a reason.
I don't do stuff to my kids that I'm ashamed to tell people about. Full stop.

I’ll discuss it honestly with anyone who asks. And I have.

Nobody posts their personal information on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:Spanking is so trashy. The only parents I know who talk about giving their kids a “good seat to the behind” cite the Bible in their parenting and are conservative. I don’t know anyone well educated and financially comfortable who resorts to this. We have other ways of instilling values in our children that don’t involve violence.

+1 absolutely trashy and low class. Associated with shitty parents who are poor and desperate and not yet mature adults themselves.

+2, spanking is a low class, low education, low SES thing.

+3 definitely a low educated, low SES thing

Men with PhD bragging about their “high education” insult and spank. I have two of them in my IL family. FIL is a shitty parent.
I

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Anonymous wrote:My PhD-educated, UMC dad spanked me, so let’s just go ahead and put that nonsensical anecdote to bed.

right but what was that 1970?

My MD sister-in-law, a pediatrician, will spank her kids sometimes.

can you link her practice so some of us can make sure to never go there?

Lol yes I am sure the PP will ruin the reputation of her SIL since an anonymous poster asked her to.

seems like pp does not find it to be a reputation ruining thing...

Post your personal email and I’ll let you know.

I mean this is the point right. the pp is defending the practice but knows that on some level it's a level of shameful that could ruin someone's rep.

Everyone agrees there is social stigma so it's hurtful to someone's reputation. The point is that it's nonetheless common, ppl just aren't telling other ppl about it.

right cos it's shameful for a reason.
I don't do stuff to my kids that I'm ashamed to tell people about. Full stop.

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Anonymous wrote:My PhD-educated, UMC dad spanked me, so let’s just go ahead and put that nonsensical anecdote to bed.

right but what was that 1970?

My MD sister-in-law, a pediatrician, will spank her kids sometimes.

can you link her practice so some of us can make sure to never go there?

Lol yes I am sure the PP will ruin the reputation of her SIL since an anonymous poster asked her to.

seems like pp does not find it to be a reputation ruining thing...

Post your personal email and I’ll let you know.

I mean this is the point right. the pp is defending the practice but knows that on some level it's a level of shameful that could ruin someone's rep.

Everyone agrees there is social stigma so it's hurtful to someone's reputation. The point is that it's nonetheless common, ppl just aren't telling other ppl about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Spanking is so trashy. The only parents I know who talk about giving their kids a “good seat to the behind” cite the Bible in their parenting and are conservative. I don’t know anyone well educated and financially comfortable who resorts to this. We have other ways of instilling values in our children that don’t involve violence.

+1 absolutely trashy and low class. Associated with shitty parents who are poor and desperate and not yet mature adults themselves.

+2, spanking is a low class, low education, low SES thing.

+3 definitely a low educated, low SES thing

But, but, but DCUM is hailed as a high SES website and everyone is aiming for or already achieved a high pension with a multi-million dollar 401K.

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Anonymous wrote:My PhD-educated, UMC dad spanked me, so let’s just go ahead and put that nonsensical anecdote to bed.

right but what was that 1970?

My MD sister-in-law, a pediatrician, will spank her kids sometimes.

can you link her practice so some of us can make sure to never go there?

Lol yes I am sure the PP will ruin the reputation of her SIL since an anonymous poster asked her to.

seems like pp does not find it to be a reputation ruining thing...

Post your personal email and I’ll let you know.

I mean this is the point right. the pp is defending the practice but knows that on some level it's a level of shameful that could ruin someone's rep.

DP. I don't think it's shameful. O think you live in Maryland. Am I right

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Anonymous wrote:My PhD-educated, UMC dad spanked me, so let’s just go ahead and put that nonsensical anecdote to bed.

right but what was that 1970?

My MD sister-in-law, a pediatrician, will spank her kids sometimes.

can you link her practice so some of us can make sure to never go there?

Lol yes I am sure the PP will ruin the reputation of her SIL since an anonymous poster asked her to.

seems like pp does not find it to be a reputation ruining thing...

Post your personal email and I’ll let you know.

I mean this is the point right. the pp is defending the practice but knows that on some level it's a level of shameful that could ruin someone's rep.

I don’t think it’s shameful. Post all your contact info, so I can get in touch with you.

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Anonymous wrote:My PhD-educated, UMC dad spanked me, so let’s just go ahead and put that nonsensical anecdote to bed.

right but what was that 1970?

My MD sister-in-law, a pediatrician, will spank her kids sometimes.

can you link her practice so some of us can make sure to never go there?

Lol yes I am sure the PP will ruin the reputation of her SIL since an anonymous poster asked her to.

seems like pp does not find it to be a reputation ruining thing...

Post your personal email and I’ll let you know.

I mean this is the point right. the pp is defending the practice but knows that on some level it's a level of shameful that could ruin someone's rep.

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Anonymous wrote:94 percent.

“ Even as several western European countries have outlawed spanking, surveys suggest 94 percent of American parents spank their children by the time they are three or four years old, although that number hides great variability in the regularity and severity of the punishment, as well as the context in which the punishment is delivered.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2002/06/26/study-harm-outweighs-benefits-of-spanking/0f72fe3e-d49e-4a04-993c-d0934a1df286/

This article is from 2002, are you an idiot?

Figure largely unchanged in 2022

https://nabtahealth.com/articles/does-spanking-do-more-harm-than-good/

Is that the article you meant to link? Because it’s certainly not pro-spanking. It in fact talks about how research shows spanking increases risk of mood disorders and lowers IQ in children

I think the point was that it’s very common. Nobody cares whether the authors like it or not.