Anonymous
07/13/2023 18:31
Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A 2009 survey showed that atheists were the most hated demographic group in Brazil, among several other minorities polled, being almost on par with drug addicts. According to the research, 17% of the interviewees stated they felt either hatred or repulsion for atheists, while 25% felt antipathy and 29% were indifferent.[52]
I would never have guessed atheists were so disliked in Brazil.
Despite polling showing that nonbelievers make up an increasingly large part of the population there is only one public atheist in all of the state legislatures across the nation. Few politicians have been willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in supreme beings, since such revelations have been considered "political suicide".[85][86] (talking about the US here)
A 2015 Gallup survey found that 40% of Americans would not vote an atheist for president,[88] and in polls prior to 2015, that number had reached about 50%.[89][90] A 2014 study by the University of Minnesota found that 42% of respondents characterized atheists as a group that did "not at all agree with my vision of American society", and that 44% would not want their child to marry an atheist. The negative attitudes towards atheists were higher than negative attitudes towards African-Americans and homosexuals but lower than the negative attitudes towards Muslims.[91] Many in the U.S. associate atheism with immorality, including criminal behaviour, extreme materialism, communism and elitism.[92]
I personally don’t hold any of these views.
I think that is all changing. The millennials and Gen Z have a much lower rate of religious belief and affiliation than past generations. Those results will be much different ten years from now.
Globally, atheism is projected by Pew to shrink.
The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050
Why Muslims Are Rising Fastest and the Unaffiliated Are Shrinking as a Share of the World’s Population
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/
Atheists, agnostics and other people who do not affiliate with any religion – though increasing in countries such as the United States and France – will make up a declining share of the world’s total population.
Wow, if you extrapolate, it really is the Islamic Century
a bit misleading though.
Consider Indonesia for example, the 4th largest population in the world.
If its population increases by say 2 million next year, then the world just added 2 million muslims.
If the Philippines adds a million people next year, you just got a million more Catholics. Same for Mexico.
Some of these countries with very high birthrates do not have any freedom to choose your religion.
Good point ... If you look at the "Religious Switching" chart, the atheists (unaffiliated) are the best evangelists ... at the expense of the Christians.
Anonymous
07/13/2023 18:28
Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A 2009 survey showed that atheists were the most hated demographic group in Brazil, among several other minorities polled, being almost on par with drug addicts. According to the research, 17% of the interviewees stated they felt either hatred or repulsion for atheists, while 25% felt antipathy and 29% were indifferent.[52]
I would never have guessed atheists were so disliked in Brazil.
Despite polling showing that nonbelievers make up an increasingly large part of the population there is only one public atheist in all of the state legislatures across the nation. Few politicians have been willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in supreme beings, since such revelations have been considered "political suicide".[85][86] (talking about the US here)
A 2015 Gallup survey found that 40% of Americans would not vote an atheist for president,[88] and in polls prior to 2015, that number had reached about 50%.[89][90] A 2014 study by the University of Minnesota found that 42% of respondents characterized atheists as a group that did "not at all agree with my vision of American society", and that 44% would not want their child to marry an atheist. The negative attitudes towards atheists were higher than negative attitudes towards African-Americans and homosexuals but lower than the negative attitudes towards Muslims.[91] Many in the U.S. associate atheism with immorality, including criminal behaviour, extreme materialism, communism and elitism.[92]
I personally don’t hold any of these views.
I think that is all changing. The millennials and Gen Z have a much lower rate of religious belief and affiliation than past generations. Those results will be much different ten years from now.
Globally, atheism is projected by Pew to shrink.
The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050
Why Muslims Are Rising Fastest and the Unaffiliated Are Shrinking as a Share of the World’s Population
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/
Atheists, agnostics and other people who do not affiliate with any religion – though increasing in countries such as the United States and France – will make up a declining share of the world’s total population.
Wow, if you extrapolate, it really is the Islamic Century
a bit misleading though.
Consider Indonesia for example, the 4th largest population in the world.
If its population increases by say 2 million next year, then the world just added 2 million muslims.
If the Philippines adds a million people next year, you just got a million more Catholics. Same for Mexico.
Some of these countries with very high birthrates do not have any freedom to choose your religion.
Anonymous
07/13/2023 18:22
Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A 2009 survey showed that atheists were the most hated demographic group in Brazil, among several other minorities polled, being almost on par with drug addicts. According to the research, 17% of the interviewees stated they felt either hatred or repulsion for atheists, while 25% felt antipathy and 29% were indifferent.[52]
I would never have guessed atheists were so disliked in Brazil.
Despite polling showing that nonbelievers make up an increasingly large part of the population there is only one public atheist in all of the state legislatures across the nation. Few politicians have been willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in supreme beings, since such revelations have been considered "political suicide".[85][86] (talking about the US here)
A 2015 Gallup survey found that 40% of Americans would not vote an atheist for president,[88] and in polls prior to 2015, that number had reached about 50%.[89][90] A 2014 study by the University of Minnesota found that 42% of respondents characterized atheists as a group that did "not at all agree with my vision of American society", and that 44% would not want their child to marry an atheist. The negative attitudes towards atheists were higher than negative attitudes towards African-Americans and homosexuals but lower than the negative attitudes towards Muslims.[91] Many in the U.S. associate atheism with immorality, including criminal behaviour, extreme materialism, communism and elitism.[92]
I personally don’t hold any of these views.
I think that is all changing. The millennials and Gen Z have a much lower rate of religious belief and affiliation than past generations. Those results will be much different ten years from now.
Globally, atheism is projected by Pew to shrink.
The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050
Why Muslims Are Rising Fastest and the Unaffiliated Are Shrinking as a Share of the World’s Population
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/
Atheists, agnostics and other people who do not affiliate with any religion – though increasing in countries such as the United States and France – will make up a declining share of the world’s total population.
Wow, if you extrapolate, it really is the Islamic Century
Anonymous
07/13/2023 17:34
Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A 2009 survey showed that atheists were the most hated demographic group in Brazil, among several other minorities polled, being almost on par with drug addicts. According to the research, 17% of the interviewees stated they felt either hatred or repulsion for atheists, while 25% felt antipathy and 29% were indifferent.[52]
I would never have guessed atheists were so disliked in Brazil.
Despite polling showing that nonbelievers make up an increasingly large part of the population there is only one public atheist in all of the state legislatures across the nation. Few politicians have been willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in supreme beings, since such revelations have been considered "political suicide".[85][86] (talking about the US here)
A 2015 Gallup survey found that 40% of Americans would not vote an atheist for president,[88] and in polls prior to 2015, that number had reached about 50%.[89][90] A 2014 study by the University of Minnesota found that 42% of respondents characterized atheists as a group that did "not at all agree with my vision of American society", and that 44% would not want their child to marry an atheist. The negative attitudes towards atheists were higher than negative attitudes towards African-Americans and homosexuals but lower than the negative attitudes towards Muslims.[91] Many in the U.S. associate atheism with immorality, including criminal behaviour, extreme materialism, communism and elitism.[92]
I personally don’t hold any of these views.
I think that is all changing. The millennials and Gen Z have a much lower rate of religious belief and affiliation than past generations. Those results will be much different ten years from now.
Globally, atheism is projected by Pew to shrink.
The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050
Why Muslims Are Rising Fastest and the Unaffiliated Are Shrinking as a Share of the World’s Population
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/
Atheists, agnostics and other people who do not affiliate with any religion – though increasing in countries such as the United States and France – will make up a declining share of the world’s total population.
if religious affiliation increases it's not because more people are becoming believers -- it's because if you are born in some countries with very high birth rates you are, per se, a Catholic or a Muslim for example. You have no choice. This is not true of countries with a better educated populace and a higher standard of living like the U.S. and Western Europe.
Anonymous
07/13/2023 17:24
Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Similarly, the religiously unaffiliated population is projected to shrink as a percentage of the global population, even though it will increase in absolute number. In 2010, censuses and surveys indicate, there were about 1.1 billion atheists, agnostics and people who do not identify with any particular religion.5 By 2050, the unaffiliated population is expected to exceed 1.2 billion. But, as a share of all the people in the world, those with no religious affiliation are projected to decline from 16% in 2010 to 13% by the middle of this century.
Anonymous
07/13/2023 17:22
Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A 2009 survey showed that atheists were the most hated demographic group in Brazil, among several other minorities polled, being almost on par with drug addicts. According to the research, 17% of the interviewees stated they felt either hatred or repulsion for atheists, while 25% felt antipathy and 29% were indifferent.[52]
I would never have guessed atheists were so disliked in Brazil.
Despite polling showing that nonbelievers make up an increasingly large part of the population there is only one public atheist in all of the state legislatures across the nation. Few politicians have been willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in supreme beings, since such revelations have been considered "political suicide".[85][86] (talking about the US here)
A 2015 Gallup survey found that 40% of Americans would not vote an atheist for president,[88] and in polls prior to 2015, that number had reached about 50%.[89][90] A 2014 study by the University of Minnesota found that 42% of respondents characterized atheists as a group that did "not at all agree with my vision of American society", and that 44% would not want their child to marry an atheist. The negative attitudes towards atheists were higher than negative attitudes towards African-Americans and homosexuals but lower than the negative attitudes towards Muslims.[91] Many in the U.S. associate atheism with immorality, including criminal behaviour, extreme materialism, communism and elitism.[92]
I personally don’t hold any of these views.
I think that is all changing. The millennials and Gen Z have a much lower rate of religious belief and affiliation than past generations. Those results will be much different ten years from now.
Globally, atheism is projected by Pew to shrink.
The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050
Why Muslims Are Rising Fastest and the Unaffiliated Are Shrinking as a Share of the World’s Population
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/04/02/religious-projections-2010-2050/
Atheists, agnostics and other people who do not affiliate with any religion – though increasing in countries such as the United States and France – will make up a declining share of the world’s total population.
Anonymous
07/13/2023 17:18
Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:A 2009 survey showed that atheists were the most hated demographic group in Brazil, among several other minorities polled, being almost on par with drug addicts. According to the research, 17% of the interviewees stated they felt either hatred or repulsion for atheists, while 25% felt antipathy and 29% were indifferent.[52]
I would never have guessed atheists were so disliked in Brazil.
Despite polling showing that nonbelievers make up an increasingly large part of the population there is only one public atheist in all of the state legislatures across the nation. Few politicians have been willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in supreme beings, since such revelations have been considered "political suicide".[85][86] (talking about the US here)
A 2015 Gallup survey found that 40% of Americans would not vote an atheist for president,[88] and in polls prior to 2015, that number had reached about 50%.[89][90] A 2014 study by the University of Minnesota found that 42% of respondents characterized atheists as a group that did "not at all agree with my vision of American society", and that 44% would not want their child to marry an atheist. The negative attitudes towards atheists were higher than negative attitudes towards African-Americans and homosexuals but lower than the negative attitudes towards Muslims.[91] Many in the U.S. associate atheism with immorality, including criminal behaviour, extreme materialism, communism and elitism.[92]
I personally don’t hold any of these views.
I think that is all changing. The millennials and Gen Z have a much lower rate of religious belief and affiliation than past generations. Those results will be much different ten years from now.
Anonymous
07/13/2023 17:15
Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
A 2009 survey showed that atheists were the most hated demographic group in Brazil, among several other minorities polled, being almost on par with drug addicts. According to the research, 17% of the interviewees stated they felt either hatred or repulsion for atheists, while 25% felt antipathy and 29% were indifferent.[52]
I would never have guessed atheists were so disliked in Brazil.
Despite polling showing that nonbelievers make up an increasingly large part of the population there is only one public atheist in all of the state legislatures across the nation. Few politicians have been willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in supreme beings, since such revelations have been considered "political suicide".[85][86] (talking about the US here)
A 2015 Gallup survey found that 40% of Americans would not vote an atheist for president,[88] and in polls prior to 2015, that number had reached about 50%.[89][90] A 2014 study by the University of Minnesota found that 42% of respondents characterized atheists as a group that did "not at all agree with my vision of American society", and that 44% would not want their child to marry an atheist. The negative attitudes towards atheists were higher than negative attitudes towards African-Americans and homosexuals but lower than the negative attitudes towards Muslims.[91] Many in the U.S. associate atheism with immorality, including criminal behaviour, extreme materialism, communism and elitism.[92]
I personally don’t hold any of these views.
I would never have guessed atheists were so disliked in Brazil.
Despite polling showing that nonbelievers make up an increasingly large part of the population there is only one public atheist in all of the state legislatures across the nation. Few politicians have been willing to acknowledge their lack of belief in supreme beings, since such revelations have been considered "political suicide".[85][86] (talking about the US here)
A 2015 Gallup survey found that 40% of Americans would not vote an atheist for president,[88] and in polls prior to 2015, that number had reached about 50%.[89][90] A 2014 study by the University of Minnesota found that 42% of respondents characterized atheists as a group that did "not at all agree with my vision of American society", and that 44% would not want their child to marry an atheist. The negative attitudes towards atheists were higher than negative attitudes towards African-Americans and homosexuals but lower than the negative attitudes towards Muslims.[91] Many in the U.S. associate atheism with immorality, including criminal behaviour, extreme materialism, communism and elitism.[92]
I personally don’t hold any of these views.
Anonymous
07/13/2023 17:14
Subject: Re:Thank God I’m an Atheist
I believe a lot of that is because people interpret atheist as being anti-theist. I mean who's nasty enough to be against God? I think the believers are deluded but generally harmless - so I'm not against them. While an atheist doesn't believe in God, usually due to a lack of any evidence, it doesn't necessarily mean they are against God. I can pretty much respect all the world's religions as long as they stay in their lane and out of my face about it.
Anonymous
07/13/2023 17:06
Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
A 2011 study conducted in the United States by the University of British Columbia found that believers distrusted atheists as much they did rapists. The study also showed that atheists had lower employment prospects.[8][41]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists
I mean this is shocking.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_atheists
I mean this is shocking.
Anonymous
07/13/2023 17:05
Subject: Re:Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:Although I will say the religious people are welcome to have their say on this "atheist thread." We're not going to report you for gish galloping or whatever
Pew is talking about atheists.
Anonymous
07/13/2023 17:03
Subject: Re:Thank God I’m an Atheist
Although I will say the religious people are welcome to have their say on this "atheist thread." We're not going to report you for gish galloping or whatever
Anonymous
07/13/2023 17:03
Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Multiple studies show that people don’t like or trust atheists. I have always wondered why that is?
Probable multiple reasons, and they’re not exclusive.
People are afraid of something that challenges them and some may not have the background to argue back. That’s on believers.
Atheists’ own behavior can be off-putting and unlikable. Some atheists are great. But if we had to judge atheists on the basis of DCUM’s atheists who insist on insulting believers with words like “myth” and “fairy tale,” who impersonate other posters, who always have to have the last word, or who claim to be expert on Aquinas on the basis of what they’ve read on some atheist website, well that isn’t going to go well either.
You type all of these words saying how you don’t like atheists. Over and over and over again you say it. Over and over and over again you use ad hominem. But atheists never say they don’t like you. The atheists never resort to ad hominem.
Why do you think that is?
I’ll tell you why I think it is if you want.
With due respect, I'm an atheist and I really don't like her.
Which lines up with Pew research.
Atheists don’t like religious people by a large percentage.
No, some of them I really like. Just not that one at 16:52
should be 16:24
So citing Pew is an ad hominem attack now?
Anonymous
07/13/2023 17:02
Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Multiple studies show that people don’t like or trust atheists. I have always wondered why that is?
Probable multiple reasons, and they’re not exclusive.
People are afraid of something that challenges them and some may not have the background to argue back. That’s on believers.
Atheists’ own behavior can be off-putting and unlikable. Some atheists are great. But if we had to judge atheists on the basis of DCUM’s atheists who insist on insulting believers with words like “myth” and “fairy tale,” who impersonate other posters, who always have to have the last word, or who claim to be expert on Aquinas on the basis of what they’ve read on some atheist website, well that isn’t going to go well either.
You type all of these words saying how you don’t like atheists. Over and over and over again you say it. Over and over and over again you use ad hominem. But atheists never say they don’t like you. The atheists never resort to ad hominem.
Why do you think that is?
I’ll tell you why I think it is if you want.
With due respect, I'm an atheist and I really don't like her.
Which lines up with Pew research.
Atheists don’t like religious people by a large percentage.
No, some of them I really like. Just not that one at 16:52
should be 16:24
Anonymous
07/13/2023 17:01
Subject: Thank God I’m an Atheist
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Multiple studies show that people don’t like or trust atheists. I have always wondered why that is?
Probable multiple reasons, and they’re not exclusive.
People are afraid of something that challenges them and some may not have the background to argue back. That’s on believers.
Atheists’ own behavior can be off-putting and unlikable. Some atheists are great. But if we had to judge atheists on the basis of DCUM’s atheists who insist on insulting believers with words like “myth” and “fairy tale,” who impersonate other posters, who always have to have the last word, or who claim to be expert on Aquinas on the basis of what they’ve read on some atheist website, well that isn’t going to go well either.
You type all of these words saying how you don’t like atheists. Over and over and over again you say it. Over and over and over again you use ad hominem. But atheists never say they don’t like you. The atheists never resort to ad hominem.
Why do you think that is?
I’ll tell you why I think it is if you want.
With due respect, I'm an atheist and I really don't like her.
Which lines up with Pew research.
Atheists don’t like religious people by a large percentage.
No, some of them I really like. Just not that one at 16:52