Anonymous wrote:40% of Americans pay no federal tax at all, while receiving a ton of benefits.

Anonymous wrote:The utter contempt and loathing for the working poor on this thread is really something else.

Anonymous wrote:The utter contempt and loathing for the working poor on this thread is really something else.

Anonymous wrote:The days of “welfare queens” are over, if they ever existed.

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/issue-briefs/2022/12/the-long-term-decline-in-fertility-and-what-it-means-for-state-budgets

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Anonymous wrote:40% of Americans pay no federal tax at all, while receiving a ton of benefits.

— low-income households as a group do, in fact, pay federal taxes. Congressional Budget Office data show that the poorest fifth of households paid an average of 4.0 percent of their incomes in federal taxes in 2007, the latest year for which these data are available — not an insignificant amount given how modest these households’ incomes are; the poorest fifth of households had average income of $18,400 in 2007. The next-to-the bottom fifth — those with incomes between $20,500 and $34,300 in 2007 — paid an average of 10.6 percent of their incomes in federal taxes.

No. Not income taxes.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/09/18/161333783/romneys-wrong-and-right-about-the-47-percent

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Anonymous wrote:40% of Americans pay no federal tax at all, while receiving a ton of benefits.

— low-income households as a group do, in fact, pay federal taxes. Congressional Budget Office data show that the poorest fifth of households paid an average of 4.0 percent of their incomes in federal taxes in 2007, the latest year for which these data are available — not an insignificant amount given how modest these households’ incomes are; the poorest fifth of households had average income of $18,400 in 2007. The next-to-the bottom fifth — those with incomes between $20,500 and $34,300 in 2007 — paid an average of 10.6 percent of their incomes in federal taxes.

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Anonymous wrote:40% of Americans pay no federal tax at all, while receiving a ton of benefits.

Because they don’t make enough money to pay federal taxes. Pay them better.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to keep pushing the lies/myth of poor being undeserving but of all the people undeserving are people who have enough money to buy a house or save money for college. Give me a break. The us isn’t divided into givers and takers, we are all takers! There are some serious snobs on here. You’re no better than those you look down on.

I believe in welfare, but you need to give us a break. We aren’t “all takers.” You need to stop with that. My family, like many here in DC, have paid millions into taxes. My kids go to private and we donate to food insecurity and education. So no, I’m not a taker. I’m a giver. You are welcome.

And you receive fire/police, utilities, laws, educated community, national defense, etc.

Not np. For which taxes are paid, substantially, so that all may share. I PAY for those services. Try to keep up.

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The people that pay the most for these services typically receive a disproportionate amount of them. For example, low-income children typically receive the most services from schools. Their families pay the least.

But proportional to income, this isn’t true. Middle and upper classes have much more money.

It sounds like you’d be happier living in a socialist country. The U.S. isn’t one. I’m not okay with being penalized for sacrificing, making wise choices, and working my butt off.

Anonymous wrote:40% of Americans pay no federal tax at all, while receiving a ton of benefits.

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Anonymous wrote:Working class who are just barely making ends meet (but without assistance) are the most bitter toward welfare. I was raised by parents like this. So much disdain for welfare because they worked very hard are still only had barely enough for the same existence. Back when grocery stores started allowing credit cards in my childhood, my mom totally judged those people and told me that anyone who used a CC couldn’t afford their groceries. It’s funny how the world has changed.

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there is a poster on the first page who explained that to keep SNAP benefits you have to make under a certain amount

It is a system we need to change and benefits need to phase out for people once they start working and earning an income instead of posing a hard cut off income.

Actually no. 40% pay no federal tax at all, while receiving a ton of benefits.
Yes, the welfare cliff is real. It essentially punishes people for making slightly more money and trying to lift themselves out of poverty. It incentivizes people to make less. Some sort of phasing or sliding scale would be so much more helpful to people.

Person on SNAP here. There is a sliding scale but you don’t want to completely slide off because then you would need to apply again and also being snap-eligible makes it easier to qualify for other benefits
I honestly think it should be super restricted (eligibility) - it’s not right when people can keep having kids and getting more and more in benefits their whole life

I think when a family with multiple children goes through job loss or medical debt or some other hardship, it’s helpful when the safety net provides food for the amount of kids they have. But that’s just me.

Yes but if despite already being on benefits they produce more kids…

Exactly. An IUD should be mandatory for benefits. We aren't forcing anyone, they are free to decline the free money.

Exactly. An IUD or vasectomy should be mandatory for all tax breaks, for people at all income levels.

Again for the slow one in back: keeping some of my own money with a few tax breaks while still paying 10’s of thousands of dollars in taxes does not make someone a taker or on the dole.

Sorry but you’re the slow one. Poor people pay taxes too. You are no more deserving than they are! You lie to yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:The cashier at Target basically told the customer in front of me, my register doesn’t not accept welfare money loudly.
It’s not the first time cashiers have try to embarrass people out loud.

I would have asked to see a manager if I had witnessed this. Cashier should have been fired on the spot

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Anonymous wrote:People are completely comfortable with the billions that the rich receive for welfare. They just hate poor people, so that's where all the anger is directed. Mad at the person getting $150/month in SNAP instead of the welfare/subsidies going to keep corporations afloat while the CEO's are paid record profits.

Or the biggest welfare queens of all, NFL owners.