Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:09     Subject: Re:Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
University of Colorado
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:08     Subject: Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
Anonymous wrote:Tulane
Elon
Gettysburg


Not Tulane in 2023
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:05     Subject: Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's actually the reverse---the Big3 clout isn't working because they have grade deflation. The next rung of schools is actually doing better this year because they have more reasonable grading---i.e. As are actually attainable to kids who do the work. Landon is a good example---they appear to be doing quite well this year because the academic standard is decent but not unattainable. In contrast you have NCS who often gives the strongest students Bs. They (by all reports) are having a horrible admissions year, especially at state schools.


This is extremely accurate. Lots of people right now at my Big 3 who suspect attending has significantly hampered their child's college oulook. The whole Big 3 grade deflation thing is starting to really hurt them



How so if the school get the sheet that describes their grading?

It used to be that colleges just knew that a B at NCS was an A elsewhere.



I tbink it's the mid-range and lower students who are hurt. The very top students are still known by the top colleges that have taken the top students from the "big 5" and know the schools are their rigor well. The rest of the students, who are more frequently than before looking at big state schools or the "up and coming" (like Elon, no thank you) that just don't understand these schools as well and have way too many applications for holistic admissions. The top students would never even think about Boulder, Tennessee, Wisconsin, Penn State, but the students are great fits for these schools can't get in because of the grade deflation. I am one of those who wish I had never send my average kids to such an intense private.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:05     Subject: Re:Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
JMU
VCU
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 08:01     Subject: Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
Anonymous wrote:It's actually the reverse---the Big3 clout isn't working because they have grade deflation. The next rung of schools is actually doing better this year because they have more reasonable grading---i.e. As are actually attainable to kids who do the work. Landon is a good example---they appear to be doing quite well this year because the academic standard is decent but not unattainable. In contrast you have NCS who often gives the strongest students Bs. They (by all reports) are having a horrible admissions year, especially at state schools.


This is extremely accurate. Lots of people right now at my Big 3 who suspect attending has significantly hampered their child's college oulook. The whole Big 3 grade deflation thing is starting to really hurt them



How so if the school get the sheet that describes their grading?

It used to be that colleges just knew that a B at NCS was an A elsewhere.

Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 07:41     Subject: Re:Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
Don't a nunber of these kids go to Indiana? That's my B/B+ student's back up right now, after being deferred from everywhere else.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 07:31     Subject: Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
Tulane
Elon
Gettysburg
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 07:05     Subject: Re:Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
Mine was accepted into Tech, Longwood, VMI and Miami. Went to Tech
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 02:39     Subject: Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
Anonymous wrote:My top 5 area private (not sure what big 3 is definitely--I can argue seven schools in the big 3--Sidwell, NCS/Albans, GDS, Maret, Holton, and Potomac) had a B plus average and got into Colby, Tulane, and William and Mary. Rejected Michigan, UVA, and others I can't recall that he had no shot at. Good ACT, very good ECs, etc. So only GPA was low.


By the way kid has a 3.92 in College as a Junior top 15ish SLAC.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2023 02:37     Subject: Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My top 5 area private (not sure what big 3 is definitely--I can argue seven schools in the big 3--Sidwell, NCS/Albans, GDS, Maret, Holton, and Potomac) had a B plus average and got into Colby, Tulane, and William and Mary. Rejected Michigan, UVA, and others I can't recall that he had no shot at. Good ACT, very good ECs, etc. So only GPA was low.


In 2023?


No sorry that was a couple years back. Kid is now a Junior in College.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2023 22:35     Subject: Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
Anonymous wrote:My top 5 area private (not sure what big 3 is definitely--I can argue seven schools in the big 3--Sidwell, NCS/Albans, GDS, Maret, Holton, and Potomac) had a B plus average and got into Colby, Tulane, and William and Mary. Rejected Michigan, UVA, and others I can't recall that he had no shot at. Good ACT, very good ECs, etc. So only GPA was low.


In 2023?
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2023 22:25     Subject: Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
It's actually the reverse---the Big3 clout isn't working because they have grade deflation. The next rung of schools is actually doing better this year because they have more reasonable grading---i.e. As are actually attainable to kids who do the work. Landon is a good example---they appear to be doing quite well this year because the academic standard is decent but not unattainable. In contrast you have NCS who often gives the strongest students Bs. They (by all reports) are having a horrible admissions year, especially at state schools.


This is extremely accurate. Lots of people right now at my Big 3 who suspect attending has significantly hampered their child's college oulook. The whole Big 3 grade deflation thing is starting to really hurt them
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2023 21:29     Subject: Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
My top 5 area private (not sure what big 3 is definitely--I can argue seven schools in the big 3--Sidwell, NCS/Albans, GDS, Maret, Holton, and Potomac) had a B plus average and got into Colby, Tulane, and William and Mary. Rejected Michigan, UVA, and others I can't recall that he had no shot at. Good ACT, very good ECs, etc. So only GPA was low.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2023 21:19     Subject: Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can tell you that they don’t go to the University of Tennessee. My B student, 33 ACT was WL at Tennessee last night.


My B+ from one of the so-called "Big 3" was also waitlisted last night. I am somewhat relieved. Already accepted into two schools that to me are better choices, but Tennessee was their first choice. Taking it surprisingly well. It's all very confusing.


It really isn't that confusing. Big state schools are using algorithms to admit students. How many Big 3 kids actually attend a school like University of Tennessee if they get in. Not many. The algorithm determined that your kid was not likely to accept. If a big State U is your kid's dream, you are better off at a public school OR a more academically comprehensive private (not an elite prep school).


Are schools like Vermont and Boulder also dinging b-grade kids from privates with decent test scores?



My Big3 student applied to all of those schools with high test scores and B average GPA. Rejected from Boulder, WL from Tennessee and deferred from Vermont.

Were these schools considered "targets" or "reachers" for your child? What were the test scores? Did your child apply for a particular major? Thanks for sharing your experience.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2023 21:13     Subject: Where do "B" average Big-3 students go to college?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can tell you that they don’t go to the University of Tennessee. My B student, 33 ACT was WL at Tennessee last night.


My B+ from one of the so-called "Big 3" was also waitlisted last night. I am somewhat relieved. Already accepted into two schools that to me are better choices, but Tennessee was their first choice. Taking it surprisingly well. It's all very confusing.


It really isn't that confusing. Big state schools are using algorithms to admit students. How many Big 3 kids actually attend a school like University of Tennessee if they get in. Not many. The algorithm determined that your kid was not likely to accept. If a big State U is your kid's dream, you are better off at a public school OR a more academically comprehensive private (not an elite prep school).


Are schools like Vermont and Boulder also dinging b-grade kids from privates with decent test scores?



My Big3 student applied to all of those schools with high test scores and B average GPA. Rejected from Boulder, WL from Tennessee and deferred from Vermont.