Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 19:01     Subject: VT this Friday?

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Anonymous wrote:DD In. College of Science, math major, physics minor

In state, FCPS

1490 SAT
4.3 W, not sure on unweighted. Probably around 3.8

7 APs, 2 in science, 3 in math
white

Congrats. Will she go?


Thanks. She’s unsure. Waiting on some others. I think W&M is more likely as it is smaller and closer and more quirky.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 18:32     Subject: VT this Friday?

Anonymous wrote:Many high stats kids do want VT because of the in state cost savings. It’s not okay to yield protect in state kids.

This is the point I was trying to make above. Yield protection doesn’t follow the formula when VT is literally a fraction of the cost of any top 20 (or any) private college.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 18:10     Subject: VT this Friday?

Many high stats kids do want VT because of the in state cost savings. It’s not okay to yield protect in state kids.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 18:08     Subject: Re:VT this Friday?

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Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.


Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.


That is nuts. Where else did they apply?


This kid doesn’t want to go to VT . Kids / parents just want to feel proud oh my Larla got into 10/10 schools. VT has figured this out.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 18:02     Subject: Re:VT this Friday?

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Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.


Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.


That is nuts. Where else did they apply?


Princeton, Harvard, Hopkins, Duke, UVA, bunch of others. VT was lowest ranked school. Already in at several higher ranked schools. If you are high stats and want VT, better go ED and show tons of interest.

In state? Engineering? Yield protection? But, UGH!


Yes, in state engineering. Feels like yield protection but no way to tell for sure.

Seems like no other explanation. But also don’t understand why VT would bother to engage in such a practice.


It doesn’t. This is just something people tell themselves to alleviate bruised egos.

I don't think it's ego to assume that a VA kid with these stats should be accepted to VT. 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs


College admissions are more than just stats, though. That’s what people can’t seem to come to terms with. The intangibles matter equally, if not more.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 17:46     Subject: VT this Friday?

(I’ve posted earlier in this thread. Not sure why I’m so engaged by this.)
Losing in-state high achievers who truly want VT seems wrong. Accepting more first gen state residents seems right. Yield from acceptances to VT is relatively low. How do they get this right if they are clearly not first choice for so many of the people “shocked” not to get in?

Agree with previous poster: there’s no advantage in driving away in-state high achievers who do want to attend.

What process solves this?
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 17:41     Subject: Re:VT this Friday?

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Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.


Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.


That is nuts. Where else did they apply?


Princeton, Harvard, Hopkins, Duke, UVA, bunch of others. VT was lowest ranked school. Already in at several higher ranked schools. If you are high stats and want VT, better go ED and show tons of interest.


Couldn’t this be yield protection? And wouldn’t they be right? You don’t actually want VT.



It probably is yield protection. We have had friends with in-state kids be accepted to Ga Tech, ND, CMU, Fl and UNC get wait listed at Va Tech. VA Tech is a great school but those all have much lower acceptance rates. I understand why a small private school might want to do this but state schools are suppose to serve the state. Not sure how this serves the states. If anything the results seems to be that it pushes high stat kids out of state.

This and any well-regarded in state school is often a contender for the hi stats kid because of cost over any much higher ranked school. Cost seems to be the wild card that warrants against guessing who will accept the offer.
But I guess VT know better than me.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 17:33     Subject: Re:VT this Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.


Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.


That is nuts. Where else did they apply?


Princeton, Harvard, Hopkins, Duke, UVA, bunch of others. VT was lowest ranked school. Already in at several higher ranked schools. If you are high stats and want VT, better go ED and show tons of interest.


Couldn’t this be yield protection? And wouldn’t they be right? You don’t actually want VT.



It probably is yield protection. We have had friends with in-state kids be accepted to Ga Tech, ND, CMU, Fl and UNC get wait listed at Va Tech. VA Tech is a great school but those all have much lower acceptance rates. I understand why a small private school might want to do this but state schools are suppose to serve the state. Not sure how this serves the states. If anything the results seems to be that it pushes high stat kids out of state.


Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 17:28     Subject: Re:VT this Friday?

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Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.


Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.


That is nuts. Where else did they apply?


Princeton, Harvard, Hopkins, Duke, UVA, bunch of others. VT was lowest ranked school. Already in at several higher ranked schools. If you are high stats and want VT, better go ED and show tons of interest.

In state? Engineering? Yield protection? But, UGH!


Yes, in state engineering. Feels like yield protection but no way to tell for sure.

Seems like no other explanation. But also don’t understand why VT would bother to engage in such a practice.


It doesn’t. This is just something people tell themselves to alleviate bruised egos.

I don't think it's ego to assume that a VA kid with these stats should be accepted to VT. 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 16:41     Subject: Re:VT this Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.


Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.


Those are really good stats! Good luck! I wish everything turns out good for your kid.
My kid got rejected with same stats from UVA.


Thanks. Ours was accepted at UVA and got Echols scholar and waiting on some others. Very surprised yours was rejected with those stats. Good luck! It’s a crazy year but I’m sure yours will have good options.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 16:35     Subject: Re:VT this Friday?

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Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.


Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.


That is nuts. Where else did they apply?


Princeton, Harvard, Hopkins, Duke, UVA, bunch of others. VT was lowest ranked school. Already in at several higher ranked schools. If you are high stats and want VT, better go ED and show tons of interest.

In state? Engineering? Yield protection? But, UGH!


Yes, in state engineering. Feels like yield protection but no way to tell for sure.

Seems like no other explanation. But also don’t understand why VT would bother to engage in such a practice.


It doesn’t. This is just something people tell themselves to alleviate bruised egos.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 16:28     Subject: Re:VT this Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.


Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.


Those are really good stats! Good luck! I wish everything turns out good for your kid.
My kid got rejected with same stats from UVA.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 16:27     Subject: Re:VT this Friday?

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Anonymous wrote:From VT website:
What is Virginia Tech's history of selecting students from the waitlist?
Last year, we were able to offer 2,458 applicants from the waitlist. In 2021, we were able to offer 3,286 applicants from the waitlist. In 2020, we were able to offer 3,961 applicants from the waitlist. In 2019, we were unable to make any offers. In 2018, we were able to offer 1,896 applicants from our waitlist. In 2017, we were unable to make any offers. As you can see, the number of students ultimately receiving offers from the waitlist is highly unpredictable and variable.


This makes it sound like most years VaTech ultimately offered admission to hundreds/thousands of students on the waitlist? That seems much higher than most schools? Below is the information from the 2020-21 Common Data Set. Combined with the information on the website above, does this establish that 3,286 of 4,924 were offered admission but only 86 accepted (presumably because by July most had made other plans)? Am I missing something?


Number of qualified applicants offered a place on the waiting list: 8,690

Number accepting a place on the waiting list: 4924

Number of wait-listed students admitted: 86


In 2021 they sent my daughter a letter saying they were unable to go off of the waitlist. We assumed no one came off the waitlist so I am surprised to see these numbers. However, she was an engineering major. I believe no one will come off the waitlist for majors like engineering and business, sciences, etc.


No. I read it that 8690 applicants were notified they were put on the waitlist. Of those 8000+ students, 4924 decided they wanted to go on the waitlist. The other almost 4000 applicants decided to not be put on the waitlist. Only 86 were ultimately offered a spot. How many enrolled is unknown.


We are interested in knowing these waitlist statistics since my DD was waitlisted (NoVA resident, 3.8 UW/4.2W, 33 ACT). How are others reading them? For 2021 what does "were able to offer 3,286 applicants from the waitlist" mean? It seems inconsistent with "Number of wait-listed students admitted: 86"? Is the 86 number actually "enrolled" not admitted? Reading the website waitlist FAQs and common data set together does seem to suggest that in 2021 8,690 were offered waitlist spots, 4,924 stayed on the waitlist, 3286 were offered spots off the list and 86 students enrolled off the waitlist. Otherwise, what does the 3,286 number refer to? In the alternative, if VATech only offered 86 students admission off the waitlist, I would assume that a lot of student who stayed on the waitlist will have moved on. Just like the regular admissions cycle, wouldn't VA Tech need to make a lot more offers than spots to fill the final spots? But offering admission to 3,286 of 4,924 sure doesn't sound right either.......
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 16:26     Subject: Re:VT this Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.


Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.


That is nuts. Where else did they apply?


Princeton, Harvard, Hopkins, Duke, UVA, bunch of others. VT was lowest ranked school. Already in at several higher ranked schools. If you are high stats and want VT, better go ED and show tons of interest.


Couldn’t this be yield protection? And wouldn’t they be right? You don’t actually want VT.


Exactly. We didn’t get the full picture.
Anonymous
Post 02/18/2023 16:23     Subject: Re:VT this Friday?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please list stats — curious about the couple pps with sons and thought tech was a match and kids rejected.
I’ll be in this spot in a year.


Deferred with 4.0UW/4.5W/1570 and 13 APs or post-APs.


That is nuts. Where else did they apply?


Princeton, Harvard, Hopkins, Duke, UVA, bunch of others. VT was lowest ranked school. Already in at several higher ranked schools. If you are high stats and want VT, better go ED and show tons of interest.


Couldn’t this be yield protection? And wouldn’t they be right? You don’t actually want VT.