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Post 03/21/2023 15:14     Subject: Carjackings just will.not.stop. MoCo council is out of control.

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An elderly man was car jacked in Bethesda.


The politicians in charge, including at the state level, view the people who commit crimes as the real victims. And the politicians have adjusted laws/practices accordingly. Same thing in DC, so we get bleed-over, as well. This is the new normal.

I say this as a liberal who understands that historically, our multiple criminal justice systems have been too brutal. But the policy makers have gone in the completely opposite direction. Instead, they should match rational punishments to the crime. Clear, known consequences, swiftly imposed. People will reoffend when they see there are no consequences to their actions.






No one has any idea what might work to either rehabilitate or deter offenders. There are only two practical choices in the US at the moment: incapacitate offenders via mass incarceration, or accept a higher level of crime than anyone wants with the attendant consequences on victims and social order. That’s it: everything else is just wishful thinking by those who want to avoid acknowledging this harsh truth.


That's not true. There are decades of research showing what does and what does not work. Evidence-based policing, prosecution, and violence prevention practices all get lost in the political posturing and self-promoting chatter.


How about looking at root causes?
Fatherless homes, for one.


No, because abusive or addicted fathers in the homes are even worse. It's not the absence of a father but rather the absence of sufficient income.


These kids are NOT carjacking "because they are poor."


They are also NOT carjacking due to the absence of an abusive father!


They are carjacking because their culture accepts and glorifies it. If we’re being real.


This.

I’m an AA with hundreds of AA friends and acquaintances in this area. WE DO NOT promote or encourage carjackings OR any other type of crimes. You are beyond ridiculous for saying that carjacking is cultural.



I’m an AA as well. It’s not inherently part of black culture, but it’s inherently part of hood / rap culture these days, just like “having oops” (enemies from a rival neighborhood) is. You can pretend that these things don’t exist because they are upsetting to you, but that doesn’t solve the problem.


*opps

PP, here. Thanks for confirming that the AA culture is NOT monolithic. I’ve never even heard of “opps” and I have AA teenagers.


Obviously. UMC suburban black folk and urban ghetto blacks couldn’t be more different. The cultural problem lies with the latter. And yes, it is a cultural problem.

-Wealthy black dude


I’m not trying to assign more work to the Black folks here but I will say that it is really hard as a white person to speak on some of these issues. For instance, my PTA had a meeting about the SRO program. I generally support the program, but I’m white—so who am I really to say that it doesn’t have a negative impact on kids of color? I understand nothing is simple when it comes to law enforcement for Black folks in this country and I don’t want to put more burden on you — but I do want to hear more from the communities of color about what sort of law enforcement they would like to see, particularly because they are the most likely to be the victims of crime.


Dre’s mom has been vocal about putting SROs back in schools. Her son was shot and almost died at Magruder. Nobody is centering her voice though.


Indeed and she's suing the school over it too.

The idea that black parents don't want SROs in school is dead wrong, especially since parents in PG, which is a majority black county, feel the same way: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/education/pgcps-school-board-vote-school-resource-officers/65-551556ee-53c7-4288-acff-255dc8b01b58



But unfortunately they get drowned out by the ones who don’t.