Anonymous wrote:In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

Understand your frustration for sure. How were his essays and what was his class ranking? It’s an unfortunate fact that not everyone can get in. So sorry.

In state deferred SAT 1510 UWGPA 4.0 WGPA 4.4. 7AP, leadership, great recs (read them). Lots of volunteer at same place since 9th, 20 hr/week job since 10th. Very upset that he can not get accepted to our state flagship school Ive been funding for the past 19 years that Ive lived in VA with those qualities. UVA needs auto-admits like Texas.

Anonymous wrote:Are anybody looking at these numbers and then claiming that William and Mary is just as selective as UVA is kidding themselves.

Who cares? They are both great schools.

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I notice on this thread that the balance point seems to be a 4.4 instate gpa.

It has been in that area for a couple of years. My DD got in with a 4.44 (class of 2025) which was about a 4.4 when she applied, no one who was ranked below her got in (the school still ranked at the time)

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Anonymous wrote:The numbers are inline with expectations based on the known number of apps this year. Until/unless UVA increases the capacity of the school the acceptance numbers will continue to decline as more applications are sent every year with a limited number of available seats. It's why many kids just self select to other schools right from the get go.

What does this mean?

Take my kid. High ACT, but low freshman year grades, so GPA was in the 25%. And she strongly specialized in humanities. She was likely top 5% in her class on the humanities side. But, no STEM APs and took standard Calc, not AP. UVA wants most rigorous classes across the 5, core areas. She never seriously considered UVA because she knew it was a huge long shot. Instead, she did ED at WM (and was admitted), B/c WM likes quirky kids and specialists. She self selected to WM and never applied to UVA— because she knew she wouldn’t get in.

Many kids in the top 20% of the class do this— don’t even bother with UVA because their transcript isn’t perfect. They don’t show up in the rejection numbers.

I’m surprised she got into W&M. A few years ago she probably wouldn’t have. It’s gotten easier.

Not really if you look at their overall admitted student stats. They are just a smidgen under UVA.
Example GPA: W&M 4.51, UVA 4.53 (75%ile); W&M 4.15, UVA 4.24 (25%ile)

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DD in LCPS, 4.0 unweighted gpa, 10 AP’s, 1470 SAT, lots of EC’s got in UVA

Are anybody looking at these numbers and then claiming that William and Mary is just as selective as UVA is kidding themselves.

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 6th grade and this is terrifying. At least I can right size my expectations.

Don't worry. IMO just let your kid be their own self, over time get them invested in taking the courses that challenge them but in which they can do well, do some practice SAT and ACT starting late sophomore year, to determine which they like better, and practice thru HS - start college visits then too. Encourage them to get involved with service work that speaks to them, and over time that they can become a leader in (fewer activities but more deeply pursued), and a summer job in the future, or help with a family member. They will find their place. Plus, the college applicant pool (of US students anyway, not international applicants) is set to drop significantly in the next couple years - so that will benefit yours. We are at peak insanity now, it will ebb.

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Anonymous wrote:Deferred engineering. In state, 3.98/4.5, 1560, NMSF. 3rd deferral. Cowards...just reject. However, he was a direct admit to UMD CS and honors college.

Similar as my DS above. Also NMSF and UMD CS but not honors. See you at UMD!

I was thrilled with the UMD acceptance (nice to be "wanted"). Its about $17k more a year than UVA. Not ridiculous amount. I know merit is limited, but it would be nice if we could get a little. Ohio State and Minnesota were generous. Received likely card from W&M. With the deferrals, we now have 7 RD. Best of luck!!

You'd choose UMD over W&M?

For Computer Science it's a real consideration. Of course now your talking $20k/yr more.

UMD and WM are very different vibes. Kid should go with whatever one feels right. I know kids with jobs at Big Tech out of WM so don't think that's not possible.

Anonymous wrote:My kid is in 6th grade and this is terrifying. At least I can right size my expectations.

It’s all going to change many times over by the time your kid is ready.

Remember that DCUM represents a very, very small portion of the area. Maybe 20 people have posted here and there’s no way to know where these people are from. GPAs are inflated everywhere and the colleges are looking at everything, so there’s more to it than what people are posting.

My kid is in 6th grade and this is terrifying. At least I can right size my expectations.

My kid got in with 1440

Did anyone’s kid who had below a 1500 get in? All of these posts have kids who scored above a 1500. This is well beyond the average for UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know why some parts of the state have a 40% acceptance rate, Fairfax County has a 32% acceptance rate, but Prince William & Loudon only have a 26% acceptance rate.

Probably fewer actual applicants. The perception in other parts is that you have to be the valedictorian or close to it while in northern Virginia, more people get in.

But why does Prince William & Loudon have a lower acceptance rate than Fairfax County?

TJ gooses FCPS numbers.

Huh? Those kids would be dispersed at their home schools throughout the county. Or is it the 10%+ from neighboring jurisdictions?

Nope. TJ admits are counted as FCPS because they attend school in Fairfax County. TJ kids have a high admit rate.

This, plus in my experience, the NOVA private schools have fairly high acceptance rates.

And the Nova parochials

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know why some parts of the state have a 40% acceptance rate, Fairfax County has a 32% acceptance rate, but Prince William & Loudon only have a 26% acceptance rate.

Probably fewer actual applicants. The perception in other parts is that you have to be the valedictorian or close to it while in northern Virginia, more people get in.

But why does Prince William & Loudon have a lower acceptance rate than Fairfax County?

TJ gooses FCPS numbers.

Huh? Those kids would be dispersed at their home schools throughout the county. Or is it the 10%+ from neighboring jurisdictions?

Nope. TJ admits are counted as FCPS because they attend school in Fairfax County. TJ kids have a high admit rate.

This, plus in my experience, the NOVA private schools have fairly high acceptance rates.