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Post 02/14/2023 10:12     Subject: Kristin Mink

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?


Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?


You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".


Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?


I think you have a hammer, so every problem is a nail.


You must be a big Mink supporter. Fine.

I think it is beyond reasonable to expect a councilmember on the public safety committee (!) to know about existing policing practices in the county. I think she should come from a place of understanding when she speaks, and that understanding can partly come from actually talking to officers, watching them in action, learning about their procedures, etc. If you think those very reasonable and logical expectations are too much, then there’s nothing to talk about here.

Your support of her, by the way, is not making me feel very confident about her ability to do this job.


You're assuming that your way is the only way to acquire that knowledge, and also probably that if she did acquire that knowledge your way, she would come to agree with your opinions.

I don't live in Kristin Mink's district, and I would find it odd if my opinion of her affected your opinion of her. Also, your opinion of her does not affect her ability to do the job which the voters of her district elected her to do.


Okay. I’ll bite. How else will she find out about public safety, specifically policing, in Montgomery County without meeting with / listening to police at all? Do you really think that’s a step she can skip?

What other way is there to learn about policing? Should she read books? Watch movies? Read Twitter? What’s your suggestion?


But she is meeting with and listening to police.


Ride-alongs? With officers? What about the citizen’s academy?


Now we're back to your belief that your way is the only way.


Have I said “only way”? Anywhere? Seriously? What is so wrong with suggesting that she take a close look at the job and speak directly to those doing it? Is that an unreasonable suggestion?

I’m not an “only way” sort person. I’m very logical and reasonable. I don’t see my suggestion as unreasonable AT ALL, and I fail to understand why this is such a hard line for you.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 10:09     Subject: Kristin Mink

Anonymous wrote:She's like a parody of a woke liberal at this point: https://twitter.com/KristinMink_/status/1624499637645193217


This is our fault. When normal, mainstream, moderate people choose not to run for office, the Looney Tunes have free reign to fill in the gaps.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 10:06     Subject: Kristin Mink

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?


Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?


You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".


Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?


I think you have a hammer, so every problem is a nail.


You must be a big Mink supporter. Fine.

I think it is beyond reasonable to expect a councilmember on the public safety committee (!) to know about existing policing practices in the county. I think she should come from a place of understanding when she speaks, and that understanding can partly come from actually talking to officers, watching them in action, learning about their procedures, etc. If you think those very reasonable and logical expectations are too much, then there’s nothing to talk about here.

Your support of her, by the way, is not making me feel very confident about her ability to do this job.


You're assuming that your way is the only way to acquire that knowledge, and also probably that if she did acquire that knowledge your way, she would come to agree with your opinions.

I don't live in Kristin Mink's district, and I would find it odd if my opinion of her affected your opinion of her. Also, your opinion of her does not affect her ability to do the job which the voters of her district elected her to do.


Okay. I’ll bite. How else will she find out about public safety, specifically policing, in Montgomery County without meeting with / listening to police at all? Do you really think that’s a step she can skip?

What other way is there to learn about policing? Should she read books? Watch movies? Read Twitter? What’s your suggestion?


But she is meeting with and listening to police.


Ride-alongs? With officers? What about the citizen’s academy?


Now we're back to your belief that your way is the only way.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 10:03     Subject: Kristin Mink

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?


Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?


You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".


Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?


I think you have a hammer, so every problem is a nail.


You must be a big Mink supporter. Fine.

I think it is beyond reasonable to expect a councilmember on the public safety committee (!) to know about existing policing practices in the county. I think she should come from a place of understanding when she speaks, and that understanding can partly come from actually talking to officers, watching them in action, learning about their procedures, etc. If you think those very reasonable and logical expectations are too much, then there’s nothing to talk about here.

Your support of her, by the way, is not making me feel very confident about her ability to do this job.


You're assuming that your way is the only way to acquire that knowledge, and also probably that if she did acquire that knowledge your way, she would come to agree with your opinions.

I don't live in Kristin Mink's district, and I would find it odd if my opinion of her affected your opinion of her. Also, your opinion of her does not affect her ability to do the job which the voters of her district elected her to do.


Okay. I’ll bite. How else will she find out about public safety, specifically policing, in Montgomery County without meeting with / listening to police at all? Do you really think that’s a step she can skip?

What other way is there to learn about policing? Should she read books? Watch movies? Read Twitter? What’s your suggestion?


But she is meeting with and listening to police.


Ride-alongs? With officers? What about the citizen’s academy?
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 09:57     Subject: Kristin Mink

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?


Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?


You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".


Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?


I think you have a hammer, so every problem is a nail.


You must be a big Mink supporter. Fine.

I think it is beyond reasonable to expect a councilmember on the public safety committee (!) to know about existing policing practices in the county. I think she should come from a place of understanding when she speaks, and that understanding can partly come from actually talking to officers, watching them in action, learning about their procedures, etc. If you think those very reasonable and logical expectations are too much, then there’s nothing to talk about here.

Your support of her, by the way, is not making me feel very confident about her ability to do this job.


You're assuming that your way is the only way to acquire that knowledge, and also probably that if she did acquire that knowledge your way, she would come to agree with your opinions.

I don't live in Kristin Mink's district, and I would find it odd if my opinion of her affected your opinion of her. Also, your opinion of her does not affect her ability to do the job which the voters of her district elected her to do.


Okay. I’ll bite. How else will she find out about public safety, specifically policing, in Montgomery County without meeting with / listening to police at all? Do you really think that’s a step she can skip?

What other way is there to learn about policing? Should she read books? Watch movies? Read Twitter? What’s your suggestion?


But she is meeting with and listening to police.
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 09:56     Subject: Kristin Mink

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?


Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?


You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".


Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?


I think you have a hammer, so every problem is a nail.


You must be a big Mink supporter. Fine.

I think it is beyond reasonable to expect a councilmember on the public safety committee (!) to know about existing policing practices in the county. I think she should come from a place of understanding when she speaks, and that understanding can partly come from actually talking to officers, watching them in action, learning about their procedures, etc. If you think those very reasonable and logical expectations are too much, then there’s nothing to talk about here.

Your support of her, by the way, is not making me feel very confident about her ability to do this job.


You're assuming that your way is the only way to acquire that knowledge, and also probably that if she did acquire that knowledge your way, she would come to agree with your opinions.

I don't live in Kristin Mink's district, and I would find it odd if my opinion of her affected your opinion of her. Also, your opinion of her does not affect her ability to do the job which the voters of her district elected her to do.


Okay. I’ll bite. How else will she find out about public safety, specifically policing, in Montgomery County without meeting with / listening to police at all? Do you really think that’s a step she can skip?

What other way is there to learn about policing? Should she read books? Watch movies? Read Twitter? What’s your suggestion?
Anonymous
Post 02/14/2023 07:50     Subject: Kristin Mink

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?


Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?


You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".


Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?


I think you have a hammer, so every problem is a nail.


You must be a big Mink supporter. Fine.

I think it is beyond reasonable to expect a councilmember on the public safety committee (!) to know about existing policing practices in the county. I think she should come from a place of understanding when she speaks, and that understanding can partly come from actually talking to officers, watching them in action, learning about their procedures, etc. If you think those very reasonable and logical expectations are too much, then there’s nothing to talk about here.

Your support of her, by the way, is not making me feel very confident about her ability to do this job.


You're assuming that your way is the only way to acquire that knowledge, and also probably that if she did acquire that knowledge your way, she would come to agree with your opinions.

I don't live in Kristin Mink's district, and I would find it odd if my opinion of her affected your opinion of her. Also, your opinion of her does not affect her ability to do the job which the voters of her district elected her to do.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2023 18:34     Subject: Kristin Mink

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?


Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?


You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".


Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?


You seem to be unaware that current practice in the county is to devise a preferred solution and then engineer the facts to support it. Planning, policing, transportation, and schools. The leaders come up with something they want to do and then make the data support it.


It worked for Thrive, so why not try it for every initiative? If the voters are gullible enough to believe that missing middle BS, they’ll buy anything. When you’ve got that going for you, why try any harder? It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2023 16:43     Subject: Kristin Mink

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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?


Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?


You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".


Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?


You seem to be unaware that current practice in the county is to devise a preferred solution and then engineer the facts to support it. Planning, policing, transportation, and schools. The leaders come up with something they want to do and then make the data support it.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2023 15:49     Subject: Kristin Mink

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


The ones I remember were:

How did the retirement plans for 911 call takers compare to other counties? And apparently ours and one other are the only ones without a real retirement out of 24 counties.

She asked them to explain their process for filling specialized police positions when there weren’t enough police for patrol. How does the department pick which detective spot needs to be filled? They said a lot is caseload. Like Silver Spring needs more detectives than Rockville. And sex crimes and special victims needs more people than drug crimes.

The other one was about security services. Their staffing levels and use around the county. I don’t remember the answer to that one though.



Good questions. I am curious about what can be done to increase staffing levels.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2023 15:44     Subject: Kristin Mink

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


The ones I remember were:

How did the retirement plans for 911 call takers compare to other counties? And apparently ours and one other are the only ones without a real retirement out of 24 counties.

She asked them to explain their process for filling specialized police positions when there weren’t enough police for patrol. How does the department pick which detective spot needs to be filled? They said a lot is caseload. Like Silver Spring needs more detectives than Rockville. And sex crimes and special victims needs more people than drug crimes.

The other one was about security services. Their staffing levels and use around the county. I don’t remember the answer to that one though.

Anonymous
Post 02/13/2023 14:19     Subject: Kristin Mink

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?


Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?


You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".


Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?


I think you have a hammer, so every problem is a nail.


You must be a big Mink supporter. Fine.

I think it is beyond reasonable to expect a councilmember on the public safety committee (!) to know about existing policing practices in the county. I think she should come from a place of understanding when she speaks, and that understanding can partly come from actually talking to officers, watching them in action, learning about their procedures, etc. If you think those very reasonable and logical expectations are too much, then there’s nothing to talk about here.

Your support of her, by the way, is not making me feel very confident about her ability to do this job.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2023 14:09     Subject: Kristin Mink

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?


Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?


You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".


Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?


I think you have a hammer, so every problem is a nail.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2023 14:07     Subject: Kristin Mink

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?


Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?


You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".


Let me make sure I understand this. You don’t consider taking a close look at current policing a worthwhile endeavor? Mink is a county council person. One would logically assume she should get to know her own county’s services before commenting on them. You disagree? What would another type of research look like?
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2023 14:03     Subject: Kristin Mink

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I watched the public safety meeting this morning. I haven't been a great fan of hers, but I think she asked some good questions. On point. Part of this is just that she's brand new.


I missed it, but am interested. What questions did she ask?

She is brand new. That’s why she should be visiting districts, doing ride-alongs, attending the citizen’s academy, and doing everything else possible to be informed about policing in the county.


PP, do you have anything else to say, or just this one thing repeated at every opportunity?


Is there a reason I shouldn’t bring this up? What’s wrong with wanting Mink to learn about public safety before she comments on it or tries to change it though legislation?

There’s only one correct response to this, and this is “yes, she should do her research.” Your annoyance at my point here makes me wonder if you actually can find some reason to disagree?


You think she should do your particular version of "doing her research". In fact, I think you think everyone should do your particular version of "doing their research".