Anonymous wrote:You and your antiquated thinking that a degree is the key to life. A lot of these young people are realizing they can make a living for themselves without it. Trades pay well, ma'am. You know that electrician, plumber, HVAC man you call to your home? They all take home decent pay and don't have to go into college debt. Also, tons of young people are making a living in very non-traditional ways. Maybe do a little research before thinking that a degree is the only way to be a successful human.

Definitely. But there has to be drive and learning. High school does not prepare you enough for most jobs. Playing video games usually isn’t a ticket to earning big bucks. Many men hear college is dumb and then just flounder along without the biological clock pushing them forward in maturity.

Anonymous wrote:They will be like me. I have a grad degree, my DH didn’t finish college. Not everyone needs college to be successful in life. He makes a lot more than me, too.

Same here.

Anonymous wrote:Some schools are covertly practicing affirmative action for men to balance gender ratios on campus. The president of William and Mary said "This is William and Mary, not Mary and Mary!"

It depends on the degree. Overall there are more women in college but each degree field is not reflective of the whole. Also different schools have gender “shortages”. Before title nine it was majority male and schools did “affirmative action” for females. They still do it for some degrees for both males and females.

Number of Bachelor's degrees awarded 2019-2020 first column is males.

Agriculture and natural resources 18,302 23,071
Architecture and related services 4,569 4,237
Area, ethnic, cultural, gender, and group studies 2,065 5,668
Biological and biomedical sciences 44,642 76,591
Business 208,044 182,446
Communication, journalism, and related programs. 32,704 59,824
Communications technologies 2,544 1,900
Computer and information sciences 70,322 18,316
Education 15,070 68,882
Engineering 97,853 28,839
Engineering technologies and engineering fields 17,037 2,583
English language and literature/letters 11,276 28,068
Family and consumer sciences/human sciences 2,832 21,124

https://www.statista.com/statistics/967826/number-bachelors-degrees-awarded-gender-subject-us/
This is the first page.

College-educated married Carpenter. He has his own business and makes a lot more than most. Worked out well. Both are children will go to college debt free (we pay as we go).

Anonymous wrote:I say this as a woman who knows that most women would like to marry a college-educated man. But as women dominate the educational landscape, how will dating be affected? Since there will be fewer male college graduates.

Polygamy

You and your antiquated thinking that a degree is the key to life. A lot of these young people are realizing they can make a living for themselves without it. Trades pay well, ma'am. You know that electrician, plumber, HVAC man you call to your home? They all take home decent pay and don't have to go into college debt. Also, tons of young people are making a living in very non-traditional ways. Maybe do a little research before thinking that a degree is the only way to be a successful human.

Anonymous wrote:I think the future of dating is more single people of both genders, except for educated, successful men. I work at a law firm and most of the younger admins and paralegals who are young and eyeing law school are single. 20 years ago, those women would have been paired up or at the very least, "serially monogamous." Now most of them complain of the lack of quality guys.

Oh to be a guy in college these days!

There is something very off with your sample. Both my sisters are in their early 20s with extensive friend groups and their dating scene is exactly like mine was in the early 00s. The only difference is use of apps instead of bars. But “serial monogamy” is the same as ever.

In my culture, most men and women will attend college if they live in this country or if they have money.

Anonymous wrote:Some schools are covertly practicing affirmative action for men to balance gender ratios on campus. The president of William and Mary said "This is William and Mary, not Mary and Mary!"

I would just hope not to attend a college where I would believe something said by the president of the university could be described as “covert”

Some schools are covertly practicing affirmative action for men to balance gender ratios on campus. The president of William and Mary said "This is William and Mary, not Mary and Mary!"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is the data that shows that blue collar professions on average make more than white collar ones after paying back college loans?

You are missing the point. People without college aren’t the financial Berden that people think because they are making as much or more than their counterparts so stop using college as be all to end all, was the point.

So where's the data on this? Particularly for the millennials who should have enough data on this by now.

I can only go on my own data. I make about 220 k with no college whatsoever, but have done great without it.

Good example of why, in general, college is correlated more with success PP. You appear to have never been taught how to extrapolate beyond your own experiences. Of course, some people who don't go to college do great. And some people who go to college end up as failures. But statistically, the group who goes to college is much more likely to be successful. And your solo experience does not disprove that point.

I didn’t realize I had to be so literal for you but here we go- um, yes I realize that I’m not the only one that’s successful without college and many people have pointed to the same thing, knowing people that have done extremely well without a degree. I’m backing up that greater point of being in a position to relate to people that know someone that didn’t need college.
I know many people that feel like college was a waste of time and they chose careers that had nothing to do with what they studied, also.

Lol. People can relate to others who went to college or not. It’s only a couple years of life so pretty much everyone has friends who went or didn’t go. I do think people of similar means and interests tend to stick together.

Not necessarily. I’m actually the only one of my friends that didn’t go to college.

All of your posts seem smug and naive. Young? Most people in America for all generations do not go to college. Your friends have other friends who didn’t go to college and they know and interact with others that didn’t including you. They probably don’t think you are as unique as you make yourself out to be but at the same time they know a lot of people both college educated and non college educated that do not make much money.

I really have to know because I’m genuinely curious if you just make up the way you perceived this or you falsely confrontational so you feel like you can add to the topic?
I’m not smug at all, but in fact the smugness probably comes from a thread being this one where it was started by taking a dig at people with no formal education. I was just illustrating that it’s not needed, and I’m an example of that, but most of my friends I’ve known for 30 plus years and we all respect each other’s path. You’re extremely insecure if you gather a smugness from me being on a thread discussing the very topic that I weighed in on. Today is a great day. Chill and relax.

It wasn't taking a dig on people with formal education. That has existed since the beginning of time. IT was discussing a reality of a trend in the US that may affect dating generally across the country and likely the production in the US as well. You seem to make everything about you is what others are saying about your comments. We are talking generalities and you are talking about your own little world as if you and your 30 friends are an entire sample of the US population.

UCLA and the other UC schools are gender blind. You’re going to see the biggest disparity in the schools.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Only 30% graduated from college at the height so this still only affects a small number.

2. not everybody needs to or want to get married, that’s new so this may take care of itself.

3. If men can step it up at home women can work men can stay home.

4. Many women will just have kids without men which is what they ever wanted in the 1st place.

Many American men are now going overseas to find wives and girlfriends. My first wife was from another country, and my next wife will also be from overseas. I've found that educated, attractive, feminine women live in other countries, and they are much less entitled, and have better morals than American women.

About me: PhD, 6'4", work out daily, good income.

Yeah, you sound like a prize.

and a complete dork.

Anonymous wrote:Everyone in the cities are gay or trans so who cares?

Hee-haw!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is the data that shows that blue collar professions on average make more than white collar ones after paying back college loans?

You are missing the point. People without college aren’t the financial Berden that people think because they are making as much or more than their counterparts so stop using college as be all to end all, was the point.

So where's the data on this? Particularly for the millennials who should have enough data on this by now.

I can only go on my own data. I make about 220 k with no college whatsoever, but have done great without it.

Good example of why, in general, college is correlated more with success PP. You appear to have never been taught how to extrapolate beyond your own experiences. Of course, some people who don't go to college do great. And some people who go to college end up as failures. But statistically, the group who goes to college is much more likely to be successful. And your solo experience does not disprove that point.

I didn’t realize I had to be so literal for you but here we go- um, yes I realize that I’m not the only one that’s successful without college and many people have pointed to the same thing, knowing people that have done extremely well without a degree. I’m backing up that greater point of being in a position to relate to people that know someone that didn’t need college.
I know many people that feel like college was a waste of time and they chose careers that had nothing to do with what they studied, also.

Lol. People can relate to others who went to college or not. It’s only a couple years of life so pretty much everyone has friends who went or didn’t go. I do think people of similar means and interests tend to stick together.

Not necessarily. I’m actually the only one of my friends that didn’t go to college.

All of your posts seem smug and naive. Young? Most people in America for all generations do not go to college. Your friends have other friends who didn’t go to college and they know and interact with others that didn’t including you. They probably don’t think you are as unique as you make yourself out to be but at the same time they know a lot of people both college educated and non college educated that do not make much money.

I really have to know because I’m genuinely curious if you just make up the way you perceived this or you falsely confrontational so you feel like you can add to the topic?
I’m not smug at all, but in fact the smugness probably comes from a thread being this one where it was started by taking a dig at people with no formal education. I was just illustrating that it’s not needed, and I’m an example of that, but most of my friends I’ve known for 30 plus years and we all respect each other’s path. You’re extremely insecure if you gather a smugness from me being on a thread discussing the very topic that I weighed in on. Today is a great day. Chill and relax.