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Anonymous wrote:The SRO's are not wanted because they are required to involve police in matters which the school want to keep things hush hush. The more arrests, assaults, etc... the worse the school looks. Now do I think teachers and staff want them? Yes. Does administration and central? Absolutely not

This is so true. Do you know a MCPS school is not mandated to contact the police when there is a rape on campus? Right now schools are barely contacting police for things police should be contacted for.

Interesting question. CPS mandatory reporting could be involved. Title IX gets involved. But MCPS is explicitly not a crime fighting agency.

Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll.

OMG stop quoting UVALDE and Parkland (those are the only two you keep mentioning) when there are tons more incidents that show how SROs have prevented and stopped violence.

Uvalde and parkland and pretty much every other place where there was a school shooting and SROs. It made zero difference.

100%. And this is true going back even to Columbine in 1999. There was a SRO there too.

The issue is SROs provide a false sense of security. It gives schools a pass to not actually address climate and culture issues that exacerbate violence. Yea, climate work isn’t visible like a cop or a metal detector but much more effective per the research. Oh and school climate work actually excplicitly addressees equity issues instead of making them worse like SROs do.

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Anonymous wrote:The SRO's are not wanted because they are required to involve police in matters which the school want to keep things hush hush. The more arrests, assaults, etc... the worse the school looks. Now do I think teachers and staff want them? Yes. Does administration and central? Absolutely not

This is so true. Do you know a MCPS school is not mandated to contact the police when there is a rape on campus? Right now schools are barely contacting police for things police should be contacted for.

Interesting question. CPS mandatory reporting could be involved. Title IX gets involved. But MCPS is explicitly not a crime fighting agency.

Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll.

OMG stop quoting UVALDE and Parkland (those are the only two you keep mentioning) when there are tons more incidents that show how SROs have prevented and stopped violence.

Uvalde and parkland and pretty much every other place where there was a school shooting and SROs. It made zero difference.

I read there were two documented incidents where SROs did stop an active shooter in the past 20 years.

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Anonymous wrote:The SRO's are not wanted because they are required to involve police in matters which the school want to keep things hush hush. The more arrests, assaults, etc... the worse the school looks. Now do I think teachers and staff want them? Yes. Does administration and central? Absolutely not

This is so true. Do you know a MCPS school is not mandated to contact the police when there is a rape on campus? Right now schools are barely contacting police for things police should be contacted for.

Interesting question. CPS mandatory reporting could be involved. Title IX gets involved. But MCPS is explicitly not a crime fighting agency.

Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll.

OMG stop quoting UVALDE and Parkland (those are the only two you keep mentioning) when there are tons more incidents that show how SROs have prevented and stopped violence.

Uvalde and parkland and pretty much every other place where there was a school shooting and SROs. It made zero difference.

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Anonymous wrote:When a student is getting beat up don’t expect any teachers to break up the fight. I am not putting my hands on any kid. Without SRO’s who do you think is breaking up fights and preventing them in the first place?

And if your child gets jumped and beaten up walking down the street they can call the police because a crime has been committed. Charges could be filed and the people responsible might be charged. When that happens in a school it was if it it really didn’t because there are no real consequences.

There are still cops and security guards outside the school.

You think fights are a new thing?

Ha! You think a cop that is 5 minutes away from the school or is busy doing something else is going to rush to a high school to break up a fight? Never has my child seen a cop from outside the school break up a fight ever.

So where do you think this SRO will be? Always immediately in the vicinity of any fight that breaks out just waiting to intervene? How long do you think these fights tend to last?

Since your child's observations seem to be determinative, how many times has your own child personally witnessed a cop from inside the school break up a fight? (And BTW, how does your child know where this cop comes from?)

A lot closer than a cop that is NOT in the school. My child has never witnessed a fight broken up by a cop since the SROs were removed. It has been an administrator (Asst. Principal, etc.) or a teacher, if at all. And they are NOT trained nor should they ever be put in a position to do that.

And this is the issue. My husband teaches 7th and 8th grade and is a big guy. In the past if he saw a smaller kid getting pummeled he would pull the bigger kid off or he would step in between two boys getting ready to fight and disperse them. (He never intervened with girl fights.) He stopped intervening at all in boy fights and now won’t put a hand on any kid. He says there are no consequences so he isn’t risking his job even if he sees things like three kids attacking one kid. He calls admin. Before SRO’s new about something of the fights that were planned.

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Anonymous wrote:The SRO's are not wanted because they are required to involve police in matters which the school want to keep things hush hush. The more arrests, assaults, etc... the worse the school looks. Now do I think teachers and staff want them? Yes. Does administration and central? Absolutely not

This is so true. Do you know a MCPS school is not mandated to contact the police when there is a rape on campus? Right now schools are barely contacting police for things police should be contacted for.

Interesting question. CPS mandatory reporting could be involved. Title IX gets involved. But MCPS is explicitly not a crime fighting agency.

Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll.

OMG stop quoting UVALDE and Parkland (those are the only two you keep mentioning) when there are tons more incidents that show how SROs have prevented and stopped violence.

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Anonymous wrote:When a student is getting beat up don’t expect any teachers to break up the fight. I am not putting my hands on any kid. Without SRO’s who do you think is breaking up fights and preventing them in the first place?

And if your child gets jumped and beaten up walking down the street they can call the police because a crime has been committed. Charges could be filed and the people responsible might be charged. When that happens in a school it was if it it really didn’t because there are no real consequences.

There are still cops and security guards outside the school.

You think fights are a new thing?

Ha! You think a cop that is 5 minutes away from the school or is busy doing something else is going to rush to a high school to break up a fight? Never has my child seen a cop from outside the school break up a fight ever.

So where do you think this SRO will be? Always immediately in the vicinity of any fight that breaks out just waiting to intervene? How long do you think these fights tend to last?

Since your child's observations seem to be determinative, how many times has your own child personally witnessed a cop from inside the school break up a fight? (And BTW, how does your child know where this cop comes from?)

A lot closer than a cop that is NOT in the school. My child has never witnessed a fight broken up by a cop since the SROs were removed. It has been an administrator (Asst. Principal, etc.) or a teacher, if at all. And they are NOT trained nor should they ever be put in a position to do that.

Anonymous wrote:When a student is getting beat up don’t expect any teachers to break up the fight. I am not putting my hands on any kid. Without SRO’s who do you think is breaking up fights and preventing them in the first place?

And if your child gets jumped and beaten up walking down the street they can call the police because a crime has been committed. Charges could be filed and the people responsible might be charged. When that happens in a school it was if it it really didn’t because there are no real consequences.

Don't know but I do think assault charges should be brought against the instigator since it's a matter for the police.

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Anonymous wrote:The SRO's are not wanted because they are required to involve police in matters which the school want to keep things hush hush. The more arrests, assaults, etc... the worse the school looks. Now do I think teachers and staff want them? Yes. Does administration and central? Absolutely not

This is so true. Do you know a MCPS school is not mandated to contact the police when there is a rape on campus? Right now schools are barely contacting police for things police should be contacted for.

Interesting question. CPS mandatory reporting could be involved. Title IX gets involved. But MCPS is explicitly not a crime fighting agency.

Statistically, SROs rarely of any benefit. Both Parkland and Uvalde had SROs present and that didn't help matters.

Most experts believe they actually make things worse, and their presence escalates or increases the death toll.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The SRO's are not wanted because they are required to involve police in matters which the school want to keep things hush hush. The more arrests, assaults, etc... the worse the school looks. Now do I think teachers and staff want them? Yes. Does administration and central? Absolutely not

This is so true. Do you know a MCPS school is not mandated to contact the police when there is a rape on campus? Right now schools are barely contacting police for things police should be contacted for.

Interesting question. CPS mandatory reporting could be involved. Title IX gets involved. But MCPS is explicitly not a crime fighting agency.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:When a student is getting beat up don’t expect any teachers to break up the fight. I am not putting my hands on any kid. Without SRO’s who do you think is breaking up fights and preventing them in the first place?

And if your child gets jumped and beaten up walking down the street they can call the police because a crime has been committed. Charges could be filed and the people responsible might be charged. When that happens in a school it was if it it really didn’t because there are no real consequences.

There are still cops and security guards outside the school.

You think fights are a new thing?

Ha! You think a cop that is 5 minutes away from the school or is busy doing something else is going to rush to a high school to break up a fight? Never has my child seen a cop from outside the school break up a fight ever.

So where do you think this SRO will be? Always immediately in the vicinity of any fight that breaks out just waiting to intervene? How long do you think these fights tend to last?

Since your child's observations seem to be determinative, how many times has your own child personally witnessed a cop from inside the school break up a fight? (And BTW, how does your child know where this cop comes from?)

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Anonymous wrote:When a student is getting beat up don’t expect any teachers to break up the fight. I am not putting my hands on any kid. Without SRO’s who do you think is breaking up fights and preventing them in the first place?

And if your child gets jumped and beaten up walking down the street they can call the police because a crime has been committed. Charges could be filed and the people responsible might be charged. When that happens in a school it was if it it really didn’t because there are no real consequences.

There are still cops and security guards outside the school.

You think fights are a new thing?

Ha! You think a cop that is 5 minutes away from the school or is busy doing something else is going to rush to a high school to break up a fight? Never has my child seen a cop from outside the school break up a fight ever.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's think beyond just shootings too. Wouldn't having an SRO be a deterrent to doing drugs / robbing people in the bathrooms?

And, the rapes.

The SRO didn’t stop the RM security guard from raping a student.

Anonymous wrote:Let's think beyond just shootings too. Wouldn't having an SRO be a deterrent to doing drugs / robbing people in the bathrooms?

It’s hasn’t up to this point.

The SRO is not everywhere.

You know kids vape IN THE CLASSROOM.

Anonymous wrote:When a student is getting beat up don’t expect any teachers to break up the fight. I am not putting my hands on any kid. Without SRO’s who do you think is breaking up fights and preventing them in the first place?

And if your child gets jumped and beaten up walking down the street they can call the police because a crime has been committed. Charges could be filed and the people responsible might be charged. When that happens in a school it was if it it really didn’t because there are no real consequences.

There are still cops and security guards outside the school.

You think fights are a new thing?

When a student is getting beat up don’t expect any teachers to break up the fight. I am not putting my hands on any kid. Without SRO’s who do you think is breaking up fights and preventing them in the first place?

And if your child gets jumped and beaten up walking down the street they can call the police because a crime has been committed. Charges could be filed and the people responsible might be charged. When that happens in a school it was if it it really didn’t because there are no real consequences.