Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 09:54     Subject: Arlington "missing middle"

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Anonymous wrote:I think all of this proves that HOAs are in fact good.


All of this proves that for people who want to control what their neighbors do with their property, they should have moved to a neighborhood with an HOA.

You mistake control with agreement for mutual benefit, i.e. solving a collective action problem.


Ah yes, the “collective action problem” of living near multifamily housing. Might as well start getting used to it.

You’re one of those people that hate Haussmann’s renovation of Paris.


Paris is lovely! It's one of the densest, most livable cities in the world. It's actually the ubiquity of mid-rise multifamily buildings, with ground-floor retail and restaurants, throughout the city that makes it so livable. We should try it!


So would all the poor people in this scenario live in high rises in Prince William County?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/02/how-the-rise-of-american-style-segregation-is-feeding-division-in-europe/

That’s the goal.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 09:49     Subject: Arlington "missing middle"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think all of this proves that HOAs are in fact good.


All of this proves that for people who want to control what their neighbors do with their property, they should have moved to a neighborhood with an HOA.

You mistake control with agreement for mutual benefit, i.e. solving a collective action problem.


Ah yes, the “collective action problem” of living near multifamily housing. Might as well start getting used to it.

You’re one of those people that hate Haussmann’s renovation of Paris.


Paris is lovely! It's one of the densest, most livable cities in the world. It's actually the ubiquity of mid-rise multifamily buildings, with ground-floor retail and restaurants, throughout the city that makes it so livable. We should try it!


So would all the poor people in this scenario live in high rises in Prince William County?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/02/how-the-rise-of-american-style-segregation-is-feeding-division-in-europe/
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 09:44     Subject: Arlington "missing middle"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think all of this proves that HOAs are in fact good.


All of this proves that for people who want to control what their neighbors do with their property, they should have moved to a neighborhood with an HOA.

You mistake control with agreement for mutual benefit, i.e. solving a collective action problem.


Ah yes, the “collective action problem” of living near multifamily housing. Might as well start getting used to it.

You’re one of those people that hate Haussmann’s renovation of Paris.


Paris is lovely! It's one of the densest, most livable cities in the world. It's actually the ubiquity of mid-rise multifamily buildings, with ground-floor retail and restaurants, throughout the city that makes it so livable. We should try it!

How can such a wonderful place be created and maintained based on a premise of controlling what other people can do with their property? How awful.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 09:28     Subject: Re:Arlington "missing middle"

Anonymous wrote:Move somewhere you can afford.


And when 6-plexes get built north of Langston Blvd with homes under $1m each, households who can afford those homes can move into them.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 09:27     Subject: Arlington "missing middle"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think all of this proves that HOAs are in fact good.


All of this proves that for people who want to control what their neighbors do with their property, they should have moved to a neighborhood with an HOA.

You mistake control with agreement for mutual benefit, i.e. solving a collective action problem.


Ah yes, the “collective action problem” of living near multifamily housing. Might as well start getting used to it.

You’re one of those people that hate Haussmann’s renovation of Paris.


Paris is lovely! It's one of the densest, most livable cities in the world. It's actually the ubiquity of mid-rise multifamily buildings, with ground-floor retail and restaurants, throughout the city that makes it so livable. We should try it!
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 09:24     Subject: Re:Arlington "missing middle"

Move somewhere you can afford.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 09:24     Subject: Arlington "missing middle"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think all of this proves that HOAs are in fact good.


All of this proves that for people who want to control what their neighbors do with their property, they should have moved to a neighborhood with an HOA.

You mistake control with agreement for mutual benefit, i.e. solving a collective action problem.


Ah yes, the “collective action problem” of living near multifamily housing. Might as well start getting used to it.

You’re one of those people that hate Haussmann’s renovation of Paris.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 09:04     Subject: Arlington "missing middle"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think all of this proves that HOAs are in fact good.


All of this proves that for people who want to control what their neighbors do with their property, they should have moved to a neighborhood with an HOA.

You mistake control with agreement for mutual benefit, i.e. solving a collective action problem.


Ah yes, the “collective action problem” of living near multifamily housing. Might as well start getting used to it.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 08:57     Subject: Arlington "missing middle"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think all of this proves that HOAs are in fact good.


All of this proves that for people who want to control what their neighbors do with their property, they should have moved to a neighborhood with an HOA.

You mistake control with agreement for mutual benefit, i.e. solving a collective action problem.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 08:54     Subject: Arlington "missing middle"

Anonymous wrote:I think all of this proves that HOAs are in fact good.


All of this proves that for people who want to control what their neighbors do with their property, they should have moved to a neighborhood with an HOA.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 08:53     Subject: Arlington "missing middle"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s a mistake to add more density without concrete plans to add schools, accommodate the additional traffic, need for parking, public services like libraries and community centers and on and on.

I’m not an Arlington resident but I live somewhere that has experienced a lot of unchecked “upcoming” and I can tell you firsthand that adding density absolutely will affect quality of life for all.


A new 100-unit apartment building is one thing. But 20 or so missing middle developments, spread out all over the county, seems like it doesn’t need some detailed plan. What would a plan like that even look like to you?


DP. Because we are already struggling with growth.

Require off street parking.
Reduce lot coverage max (for all new construction, even SFH).
Increase school capacity where it’s needed.

There are a lot of streets in Arlington without sidewalks. What’s the plan there? Doesn’t sound like smart planning or safe to increase density on those streets (including adding more kids) without a plan with dedicated resources to build sidewalks.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 08:30     Subject: Arlington "missing middle"

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s a mistake to add more density without concrete plans to add schools, accommodate the additional traffic, need for parking, public services like libraries and community centers and on and on.

I’m not an Arlington resident but I live somewhere that has experienced a lot of unchecked “upcoming” and I can tell you firsthand that adding density absolutely will affect quality of life for all.


A new 100-unit apartment building is one thing. But 20 or so missing middle developments, spread out all over the county, seems like it doesn’t need some detailed plan. What would a plan like that even look like to you?


DP. Because we are already struggling with growth.

Require off street parking.
Reduce lot coverage max (for all new construction, even SFH).
Increase school capacity where it’s needed.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 08:26     Subject: Arlington "missing middle"

I think all of this proves that HOAs are in fact good.
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 08:17     Subject: Arlington "missing middle"

Anonymous wrote:It’s a mistake to add more density without concrete plans to add schools, accommodate the additional traffic, need for parking, public services like libraries and community centers and on and on.

I’m not an Arlington resident but I live somewhere that has experienced a lot of unchecked “upcoming” and I can tell you firsthand that adding density absolutely will affect quality of life for all.


A new 100-unit apartment building is one thing. But 20 or so missing middle developments, spread out all over the county, seems like it doesn’t need some detailed plan. What would a plan like that even look like to you?
Anonymous
Post 01/28/2023 07:52     Subject: Arlington "missing middle"

It’s a mistake to add more density without concrete plans to add schools, accommodate the additional traffic, need for parking, public services like libraries and community centers and on and on.

I’m not an Arlington resident but I live somewhere that has experienced a lot of unchecked “upcoming” and I can tell you firsthand that adding density absolutely will affect quality of life for all.